The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Palapop]

If we are to get pirate themed 11.0, I want it to be in Vanilla Tanaris/STV style. Nothing less. Nothing more. Thank you. <3

[Well Done Steak]

I seriously doubt we'd ever get an expansion where the PRIMARY theme is pirates.

Pirates will only be an aspect of a nautical themed expansion.

BFA, though was a faction conflict expansion, took place in a nautical setting. And that's about how much you could ever expect.

I think what players truly want is a naval battle ship system where you can customize your ship and have battles in open sea, maybe even pvp ones.

[Revamp Man]

What you're asking for is Oblivion then...

Which is an aspect of the Void. The Void represents nothingness, non existence, emptiness.

No there's still something in the void
The void is part of the cycle

[huth]

Tiragarde Sound:

Let's firstly just start with 'cold'. Not as snowy as the mountains of Drustvar, but there are frequent areas that are clearly just cold
Trees that you see in, y'know, a cold enviroment, complete with logging industry
Industry's another big hit on this one as there's a lot of it around. There's not all that much just wilderness, with roads connecting everywhere and the
Speaking of, the city and towns themselves are clearly old, built of stone and weathered centuries. Not necessarily the case for Hypothetical Pirate Expansion

A tropical island and pirate themed expansion is going to be closer to Stranglethorn or Zuldazar if you're going to pull the 'Close to another zone' card

Hell, the only place pirate in Tiragarde Sound is Freehold and it's immediate surroundings. That's it. Boralus is a late medieval/renessaince port city, not a pirate city.

So the answer to "how" is "pretty easily", given that there's very little pirate stuff to begin with and it's markedly different from the Kul Tiran architecture that is far more prevalent.

[Kiivar86]

As for 11.0 speculation, do people really think Blizzard will give us "disconnected zones" such as a bunch of islands to travel between? People complained about the new Cataclysm zones not being connected, and more recently, the Shadowlands zones.

I wouldn't entirely be surprised, honestly. I would have thought they learned the lesson from Cataclysm yet along came Shadowlands which was even more disconnected.

[Revamp Man]

You're just describing what happens when fel destroys things.

That we know of
Keep in mind that was also before the new ultra first ones and their cycle was revealed
Heck from the anduin cinematic fel doesn't destroy everything

[Mecheon]

Hell, the only place pirate in Tiragarde Sound is Freehold and it's immediate surroundings. That's it. Boralus is a late medieval/renessaince port city, not a pirate city.

So the answer to "how" is "pretty easily", given that there's very little pirate stuff to begin with and it's markedly different from the Kul Tiran architecture that is far more prevalent.

Oh, absolutely. Plus like, "South Seas" has tons of stuff. Pirates is just Plunder Isle and Tel'Abim. You've got Kezan for 'Industrial hell-hole of capitalism gone mad', you've got Avoloren for whatever it wants to be, you've got those random dwarves if you want to drag them in

Plenty of stuff to use and not just "Its all pirates all the time"

[Nightshade711]

It was far more than the shop bundle that hinted towards Dragonflight.

And it’s also far more than just a shop bundle that’s hinting at next xpac being a Azshara/Xal’atath/Pirate/Seafarer expansion.

Also I'm not aware of their being a pirate pack available in the Blizzard store.

[Teriz]

Kul Tiras is a cold water port with, just let me remember...

Stormsong Valley:

Grand, sweeping plains for farming, very few trees
An eternally storm-drenched alter to dark gods
A muddy, drained floodplain, bringing to mind typically places in Europe
That whole Quillboar area

Tiragarde Sound:

Let's firstly just start with 'cold'. Not as snowy as the mountains of Drustvar, but there are frequent areas that are clearly just cold
Trees that you see in, y'know, a cold enviroment, complete with logging industry
Industry's another big hit on this one as there's a lot of it around. There's not all that much just wilderness, with roads connecting everywhere and the
Speaking of, the city and towns themselves are clearly old, built of stone and weathered centuries. Not necessarily the case for Hypothetical Pirate Expansion

A tropical island and pirate themed expansion is going to be closer to Stranglethorn or Zuldazar if you're going to pull the 'Close to another zone' card

You're assuming that this is going to be on some island or something. If we're talking about a major city in an expansion, the surrounding areas aren't all going to be tropical like Stranglethorn. You're more likely looking at a continent with various locales and environments, including the ones you describe above.

If we're going with this "Nightsquall" idea, then it's going to be a long established pirate location. Something akin to Port Royal, which was one of the largest cities in the Caribbean in its day, and it was created and controlled by pirates and privateers.


In the end, this is the most obvious hint to 11.0;



Thrall in the promo image.

This was the promo image prior to Shadowlands reveal;



And this was the promo image prior to BFA reveal;



If history (and Chris Metzen) is anything to go by, the next expansion is going to involve Thrall in a high capacity, since Shadowlands heavily involved Sylvanas, and BFA heavily involved Jaina.

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And it’s also far more than just a shop bundle that’s hinting at next xpac being a Azshara/Xal’atath/Pirate/Seafarer expansion.

So seafarer means pirate now? The Kul'tirans are literally a nation of seafarers.

[huth]

So seafarer means pirate now? The Kul'tirans are literally a nation of seafarers.

Says the one that a few pages ago claimed its got pirates all over. Make up your mind, you only get to claim one of the two.

[Revamp Man]

Sure there are "things" in the Void, but the Void embodies non existence and nothingness. That is the entire gist of the Void. Just because there is a cycle to it, that doesn't negate the fact that it's still the case.

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Fun fact, creation and destruction is also a cycle. The Automa also destroy things.

The automa destroy the current form but the base still exists

If the idea of the void is nothing then how can the lords of it even exist.

The enemy of everything is nothingness
Be it life or death or reality or constant consumption of the void the only force that opposes everything in the great cycle created by the first ones is complete erasure.

The void wants to consume everything and have everything so of course they fear the idea of completely being erased

The light is purification but what if there's nothing to be purified and nothing pure left

We saw the cycle of death break but imagine if instead of the maw it was Oblivion souls were sent to

No order thus no disorder

[Teriz]

Says the one that a few pages ago claimed its got pirates all over. Make up your mind, you only get to claim one of the two.

Which it does. However I never stated that ALL Kul'tirans were pirates.

[Luck4]

What are the odds of Blizzard revealing an animated series/TV series based on Warcraft at this year's Blizzcon?

I don't know how many of you guys were aware of this trailer for Hearthstone:



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I think something like that would be promising.

[Revamp Man]

What are the odds of Blizzard revealing an animated series/TV series based on Warcraft at this year's Blizzcon?

I don't know how many of you guys were aware of this trailer for Hearthstone:



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I think something like that would be promising.

Slugterra animation
I'd be hyped

Honestly at this point there's no reason not to have a show

[huth]

Which it does. However I never stated that ALL Kul'tirans were pirates.

Mostly being pirates is the same thing. Not that either of those claims is accurate anyway since the pirates only have a very limited presence, as has been pointed out to you at least ten times today.

[Mecheon]

You're assuming that this is going to be on some island or something. If we're talking about a major city in an expansion, the surrounding areas aren't all going to be tropical like Stranglethorn. You're more likely looking at a continent with various locales and environments, including the ones you describe above.

If we're going with this "Nightsquall" idea, then it's going to be a long established pirate location. Something akin to Port Royal, which was one of the largest cities in the Caribbean in its day, and it was created and controlled by pirates and privateers.

Oh, so an established pirate location such as... Tel Abim, a place that has been mentioned in lore ever since Vanilla, showed up out of the blue in a recent book noting pirates visit it, and is one of the few Very Well Established places we haven't been to yet?

That's the thing. Avoloren is the open 'could be anything' in this case, but we know the rest. Tel Abim has bananas. Therefore, it must be tropical, because all we know about the place is it has bananas. We've been to Kezan twice, we know what's there as well. Plunder Isle is another mystery (It was just a tropical island in Lands of Mystery), but its also a bit bland on name and I doubt anyone's going to be too upset about Plunder Isle being dropped or merged with the more well known Tel Abim

In the end, this is the most obvious hint to 11.0;


Thrall in the promo image.

This was the promo image prior to Shadowlands reveal;


And this was the promo image prior to BFA reveal;


If history (and Chris Metzen) is anything to go by, the next expansion is going to involve Thrall in a high capacity, since Shadowlands heavily involved Sylvanas, and BFA heavily involved Jaina.

I mean I'd love my Outland Revamp idea (because frankly Outland needs a revamp WAY more than the Cata zones do) and that'd involve Thrall, but we can't really say for sure on anything about it. Thrall heads over to Avoloren because pirates accidentally awoke a thing. Blam, Thrall's involved.

[Palapop]

What are the odds of Blizzard revealing an animated series/TV series based on Warcraft at this year's Blizzcon?

I don't know how many of you guys were aware of this trailer for Hearthstone:



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I think something like that would be promising.

GIMME THAT FULL "Invincible" song with all female chorus!!

PLEASE!

[Luck4]

Honestly at this point there's no reason not to have a show

I feel the same.

This game is nearly 20 years old, and the only media we had was the movie, which is baffling to me, considering that any remotely successful franchise has all kinds of media these days.

[Hitei]

I feel the same.

This game is nearly 20 years old, and the only media we had was the movie, which is baffling to me, considering that any remotely successful franchise has all kinds of media these days.

Not really baffling. The height of its popularity was before video games were much besides pretty awful movie adaptations. Warcraft has never particularly been known for tight well-developed narratives, and also suffers from storylines that are woven into a larger very intricate lore, making it difficult to segment out simple singular stories. Especially because in general the larger narrative arcs with the universe often lack a strong, charismatic and likeable character to follow.

It's an unwieldy IP with pretty narrow appeal. I'm still surprised the Legendary movie managed to get made.

[ChronoSul]

I feel the same.

This game is nearly 20 years old, and the only media we had was the movie, which is baffling to me, considering that any remotely successful franchise has all kinds of media these days.

Not only is the game almost 20 years old the franchise is almost 30 & honestly thats its greatest weakness with how convoluted the warcraft story is blizzard has better choices for a series to chose. Overwatch would be the perfect choice and they even recently release a short 3 episode miniseries which might be them testing the waters.