The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Pheraz]

this thrall gives me a bad feeling

two options I could think of why he is on this poster:

the horror: return to draenor / orc centric expansion

okish: "heal the world" / unmake deathwings scars on azeroth plot of a world revamp expansion

oh man... please.... not orcs....

offtopic: if you want to have some good laughs go to google bard and ask him/her about new wow expansions

promt: write a world of warcraft expansion featuring a world revamp

output: Title: The World Revamp

Setting: The entirety of Azeroth, both old and new.

Plot: The world of Azeroth is in chaos. The events of the previous expansions have left the land scarred and shattered. The old world is in ruins, and the new world is still being explored.

In the midst of this chaos, a new threat emerges. A mysterious force is corrupting the land, turning it into a twisted mirror of its former self. The heroes of Azeroth must band together to investigate this new threat and save their world from destruction.

New features:

A complete revamp of the old world, with new quests, dungeons, and raids.
A new continent, the Dragon Isles, home to the dragonflights.
A new race, the dragonkin, a race of humanoid dragons.
A new class, the dragonrider, a powerful warrior who can control dragons.
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[Yzmor]

You're assuming that this is going to be on some island or something. If we're talking about a major city in an expansion, the surrounding areas aren't all going to be tropical like Stranglethorn. You're more likely looking at a continent with various locales and environments, including the ones you describe above.

If we're going with this "Nightsquall" idea, then it's going to be a long established pirate location. Something akin to Port Royal, which was one of the largest cities in the Caribbean in its day, and it was created and controlled by pirates and privateers.


In the end, this is the most obvious hint to 11.0;



Thrall in the promo image.

This was the promo image prior to Shadowlands reveal;



And this was the promo image prior to BFA reveal;



If history (and Chris Metzen) is anything to go by, the next expansion is going to involve Thrall in a high capacity, since Shadowlands heavily involved Sylvanas, and BFA heavily involved Jaina.

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So seafarer means pirate now? The Kul'tirans are literally a nation of seafarers.

Aaand this is why I'm saying--while I'm 100% team cosmic and would love to see Void as 11.0--the next expansion is some lame elemental s**t with Thrall leading the story because Blizz thinks the core playerbase would find it cool and nostalgic.

Also, unpopular opinion, I frickin hate orcs; undead, any elves, dwarves, draenei are far more interesting races and though I understand that orcs were an integral part of the franchise back then--thank god their role is not that significant anymore, I'd be bored to Death/the 7th cosmic force--I really hope the 20-year anniversary is not some Thrall nostalgia, I'm not even buying the expansion if they pull this elemental bull with him being the main character--which is extremely possible at this point, unforfunately.

If people will love it, I'm happy (?) though, just like with DF, I hate it and been doing legacy content only for quite a while now, but I find its success a great thing for the developers, they must feel very satisfied, it's a good feeling to see that what you've worked on brings happiness to people, so I'm trying not to be selfish and childish and say the game should perish just because I don't like its current expansion, but I'm still hoping deep down that one day they'll ship some new content I, too, am fond of.

[Scyth]

If people will love it, I'm happy (?) though, just like with DF, I hate it and been doing legacy content only for quite a while now, but I find its success a great thing for the developers, they must feel very satisfied, it's a good feeling to see that what you've worked on brings happiness to people, so I'm trying not to be selfish and childish and say the game should perish just because I don't like its current expansion, but I'm still hoping deep down that one day they'll ship some new content I, too, am fond of.

Can't satisfy everyone unfortunately. I love the current story and will love it even more if it's heading into a more elemental themed xpac.
Hated BfA and SL but am sure some people enjoyed the story, well in BfA maybe lol

[Makorus]

Counterpoint to the whole Thrall thing: Doesn't really mean anything other than Thrall will be in it, and not even in a big capacity. It could literally be a Light vs Void expansion, and Thrall shows up.

Bolvar was the poster child of Shadowlands afterall. Khadgar got big hype about being back in DF.

Once again, Teriz is arguing points that only make sense in hindsight. Sylvanas being on the promo art meant Sylvanas will be relevant (which was hardly a surprise, seeing how BFA ended), and the BFA keyart meant Jaina will be relevant.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the themes of the expansions.

Let's not forget that Thrall was featured heavily in Shadowlands as well, so "Thrall = Grounded", or "Thrall = Faction War", or "Thrall = Elements" is also an extremely bad argument.

[Makabreska]

Nothing like waking up to several pages of The Teriz Experience.

[KayRule]

Kezan,we're going home

[Raetary]

If we are lucky Kezan gets krakatau'd out of existence and we can finally bury the Undermine circlejerk for good.

[zirr]

Didn't the chinese leak have a 100% hit rate so far on expansions? it would mean elemental expansion next which also fits with Thrall.

[Makabreska]

Didn't the chinese leak have a 100% hit rate so far on expansions? it would mean elemental expansion next which also fits with Thrall.

We already have a strong elemental presence in DF.

[ChronoSul]

Counterpoint to the whole Thrall thing: Doesn't really mean anything other than Thrall will be in it, and not even in a big capacity. It could literally be a Light vs Void expansion, and Thrall shows up.

Bolvar was the poster child of Shadowlands afterall. Khadgar got big hype about being back in DF.

Once again, Teriz is arguing points that only make sense in hindsight. Sylvanas being on the promo art meant Sylvanas will be relevant (which was hardly a surprise, seeing how BFA ended), and the BFA keyart meant Jaina will be relevant.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the themes of the expansions.

Let's not forget that Thrall was featured heavily in Shadowlands as well, so "Thrall = Grounded", or "Thrall = Faction War", or "Thrall = Elements" is also an extremely bad argument.

Honestly Thrall could just be there because he's an iconic Warcraft Character. There is actually previous examples of this. Last Year & This Year for Hearthstone they have Elise Starseeker to represent the game however she hasnt been relevant in a Hearthstone set since 2019? But is a fan favorite hence her appearance on the art

[KayRule]

It could be a time travel pirate plot on a planet we've never been to and Thrall could still be a core character. I do think with him having been very weakly used, even in stories like Shadowlands and BfA, it is signifying that whatever comes next he'll be playing a more center role.

[Raetary]

Btw, if we do end up getting Odyn as an enemy, it would be interesting if we end up allying with Helya.

[Makorus]

Honestly Thrall could just be there because he's an iconic Warcraft Character. There is actually previous examples of this. Last Year & This Year for Hearthstone they have Elise Starseeker to represent the game however she hasnt been relevant in a Hearthstone set since 2019? But is a fan favorite hence her appearance on the art

Likewise, Blizzcon 2016 had Sylvanas, and at that point we were in 7.1, so she wasn't relevant in the slightest.

2014 had Chen.

This is just the first time in a while where Blizzcon happens at a time where we don't really know anything about what could potentially happen in the future and we are still in the first content patch.

Thrall is just the most generic and neutral WoW character, really. He is the quintessential Warcraft rep.

[ChronoSul]

Likewise, Blizzcon 2016 had Sylvanas, and at that point we were in 7.1, so she wasn't relevant in the slightest.

2014 had Chen.

This is just the first time in a while where Blizzcon happens at a time where we don't really know anything about what could potentially happen in the future and we are still in the first content patch.

Thrall is just the most generic and neutral WoW character, really. He is the quintessential Warcraft rep.

People also are forgetting Metzen is back & who did people always associate him with? Thrall

[Catastrophy349]

Thrall on the promo image represents BOTH the next retail expansion (11.0) AND Classic expansion (Cataclysm). 11.0 will involve the elements and Blizzard will get a good laugh from announcing double expansions with both elemental involvement and Thrall as an important character.

The End

[Valysar]

In the meantime, Azeroth is still stabbed, and and they act as if nothing happened.

[Nibelheimy]

So many bizzare arguments.

Whilst i agree Thrall is more than likely just the war craft rep on the key art due to lack of recent blizzcons and choosing probably the most well known hero character. The next expansion would make perfect sense as an elemental related expansion.

Dragonflight realistically had not really been that elemental focused. In the same sense, we went from hell fire citadel and tanaan patch into Legion, we also had a lot of death theming I.e. Drust and baron samedei in bfa before shadowlands.

What dragonflight has actually had, is an extreme lack of elemental story. There is a weirdly complete lack of any elemental lore at all in dragonflight.

[Valysar]

Dragonflight realistically had not really been that elemental focused. There is a weirdly complete lack of any elemental lore at all in dragonflight.

Raszageth : Air
Fyrakk : Fire
Iridikron : Earth
Vyranoth : Water

If it's not tied to elemental power, don't know what it is.

[ChronoSul]

In the meantime, Azeroth is still stabbed, and and they act as if nothing happened.

I find it funny people are still hung up on this. Its not like we sucked out the corruption of the sword at the end of legion... o wait thats exactly what happened. Its also not like we spent the expansion afterward dealing with the damage caused by the sword to stop the bleeding... o wait thats exactly what happened. Removing the sword would just undue any good we did in BFA and probably would lead to the planets death. Theres a reason why ur not suppose to remove a knife from a stab wound unless u got tools to deal with the after effect which we dont. now if the other titans came back...

[Catastrophy349]

So many bizzare arguments.

Whilst i agree Thrall is more than likely just the war craft rep on the key art due to lack of recent blizzcons and choosing probably the most well known hero character. The next expansion would make perfect sense as an elemental related expansion.

Dragonflight realistically had not really been that elemental focused. In the same sense, we went from hell fire citadel and tanaan patch into Legion, we also had a lot of death theming I.e. Drust and baron samedei in bfa before shadowlands.

What dragonflight has actually had, is an extreme lack of elemental story. There is a weirdly complete lack of any elemental lore at all in dragonflight.

Hence, why I am saying that Blizzcon will be about two elemental expansions: 11.0 and Cataclysm Classic.

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11.0 can be an Elemental AND Void expansion, people… I mean come on? The connection is perfect.