The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

And down goes 10.1.5 PTR, if no issues pop up they're probably on schedule for it going back up with 10.2 this week, hopefully as soon as right after the reveal on Thursday.

[Cheezits]

If they are taking this long with Tyr, I can definitely see him being either the gate between DF and 11.0 (10.2.5 awakening?) or there being a patch just to deal with him.

The Tyr's Guard feel like absolute bait and the vibe I get is that they are setting Tyr up to be this wonderful nice guy when that's... not the case we're getting from the hints. I think he's going to go full Evangelion on the baby paladins and they are gonna fight each other.

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Also the Forsaken Heritage quest makes it sound like the reclamation of Lordaeron happened after the timeskip.

[Revamp Man]

That made more sense when we thought the alliance meant some sort of truce IE: Multiverses, when actually it just meant Eternus comes back to the Bronze side of the conflict.
By small, do you mean gigantic? Not to mention they would have died at completely different regions at different times during the scourge invasion.

Do you know exactly where they were when they lost their families

[Cheezits]

I THINK the second pre-rendered cinematic hasn't been shown ingame yet? Am I right that there were two in the files?

[Palapop]

Wot??? Dragons have been badass this expac.

Honestly, I blame the lack of genuine shock value on the lack of Chromatus.

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What are the chance we're going to see a 10.2 leak before the article this Thursday?

maybe they are 10% cooler if you play with sound off (especially voice sound) and if they take those retarded glasses that almost every single 1 of them has in their "humanoid" form.

Kalec looks like a high-school emo teen in his phase.

[Revamp Man]

I love fyrakk
He's draconic starscream and I love it
"Iridikron isn't here anymore"
Love it

[Seasz]

I THINK the second pre-rendered cinematic hasn't been shown ingame yet? Am I right that there were two in the files?

@Marlamin

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[Marlamin]

@Marlamin

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No clue, haven't looked for/at cinematics.

[Well Done Steak]

The tyr questline has basically confirmed one of two things, since clearly 10.2 is about the defense of amirdrassil against fyrakk.

That is either there's a titan themed 10.3 OR 11.0.

My money is a 10.3 avaloren titan patch since the tyr story has been building up since literally pre patch and would make sense for it to culminate in the final patch, narratively speaking.

Depending how the story plays out, the final boss is either Tyr, Muro, or Odyn. And. I guess Maybe Iri, but I think he's moving past DF, similar to Guldan

If that's the case, since "no pirates" is confirmed, that just leaves the light vs void theme for 11.0.

GG.

[Foolicious]

We don't actually get Tyr's disc BTW. So it's either 10.2 or 10.3 bait.

Also its revealed it's in the Nighthold lol, with Ellisande

Honestly i'm kind of exited about that. No idea how they want to explain this or what the reason would be, but her defeat has always felt a bit off. Maybe bring her back or give her a proper ending. That would be nice.

[Houle]

One thing i very much dislike is that the villain is AGAIN going after a world tree.

This is the 4th (!) time we are seeing this. Archimonde, Ragnaros, Sylvanas and now Fyrakk. And thats even leaving Yogg out, because at least that happened off-screen. Could they perhaps stop with reusing that same "target" for villains over and over again. Yes, it theoretically makes sense for villains to keep going after these things, but enough is enough. Its pretty played out. Also doesnt help that the most epic and memorable of those attacks on the world trees was still the very first of them, Archimonde in WC3.

Also, Vyranoths turn feels a bit sudden. 2 Cinematics and one argument with Fyrakk, and shes fully ready to work with her archenemy and captor of thousands of years to backstab her former "brother". That plot couldve really used some more time for that. IF they dont reveal that its actually a setup by her and Fyrakk for some reason, but thats unlikely.

[Nibelheimy]

One thing i very much dislike is that the villain is AGAIN going after a world tree.

This is the 4th (!) time we are seeing this. Archimonde, Ragnaros, Sylvanas and now Fyrakk. And thats even leaving Yogg out, because at least that happened off-screen. Could they perhaps stop with reusing that same "target" for villains over and over again. Yes, it theoretically makes sense for villains to keep going after these things, but enough is enough. Its pretty played out. Also doesnt help that the most epic and memorable of those attacks on the world tress was still the very first

Because we still don't really even know why they'd want to destroy the tree itself, it's just clear it's a marketing tactic because they know mentioning burning a tree will cause a reaction. I honestly still don't understand why the tree is even important to the general dragon populace outside of greens. The seed before this expansion and patch was integral to the night elves and their story.

I mean I'm seeing people say Fyrakk wants to corrupt it for more power, but by burning or corrupting that tree, how would that even empower him?

I'd rather he'd have just chosen to try and burn it out of spite, without any shadow flame involvement. Just to be a prick.

[Well Done Steak]

The tyr questline has basically confirmed one of two things, since clearly 10.2 is about the defense of amirdrassil against fyrakk.

That is either there's a titan themed 10.3 OR 11.0.

My money is a 10.3 avaloren titan patch since the tyr story has been building up since literally pre patch and would make sense for it to culminate in the final patch, narratively speaking.

Depending how the story plays out, the final boss is either Tyr, Muro, or Odyn. And. I guess Maybe Iri, but I think he's moving past DF, similar to Guldan

If that's the case, since "no pirates" is confirmed, that just leaves the light vs void theme for 11.0.

GG.

To add to this...

The aspects still need to regain their powers with the reforging of tyr, and 10.2 already seems like it has enough story, so there's probably no room.

[Nymrohd]

Or 10.2.5 is Tyr awakening, 10.2.7 is empowering of the Aspects and Tyr tells us how we need to go to Avaloren yesterday cause the world is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
But first, four months of fated content before 11.0 which will be an island with 4-5 zones that is supposedly a continent. New content, the Dance Studio! Have your entire raid dance like Wednesday cause Blizzard is best at doing memes about a year after they've gone stale.

[Well Done Steak]

Or 10.2.5 is Tyr awakening, 10.2.7 is empowering of the Aspects and Tyr tells us how we need to go to Avaloren yesterday cause the world is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
But first, four months of fated content before 11.0 which will be an island with 4-5 zones that is supposedly a continent. New content, the Dance Studio! Have your entire raid dance like Wednesday cause Blizzard is best at doing memes about a year after they've gone stale.

Yes thats why I think 11.0 well definitely either be light vs void or titans. One or the other hands down.

I'm just leaning for 10.3 since I believe the tyr story needs to be the grand finale

[Nymrohd]

Yes thats why I think 11.0 well definitely either be light vs void or titans. One or the other hands down.

I'm just leaning for 10.3 since I believe the tyr story needs to be the grand finale

Meh, I've given my opinion on 11.0. If we are not getting revamp, I'd rather have 11.0 be what 10.0 tried to be; a new MoP. Explore a new land, meet a new civilization, find how it is inextricably tied to the history of the setting. And if it can be an actual continent with at least two expansion's worth of content (and land area) all the better.

Having the grand finale of the Dragon expansion be Titans instead of Dragons is just an ugly pivot. If there IS a 10.3, it should be Iridikron.

[KayRule]

Dragons are actually beyond cool.

But damn.... Blizzard team B devs executed it beyond bad.

Sad, sad, sad.... sad world building

This has been the only good expansion since Mists of Pandaria, are you fucking stupid?

[Nymrohd]

This has been the only good expansion since Mists of Pandaria, are you fucking stupid?

And that is your opinion. Personally I found this expansion adequate. Haven't had much hype for anything during it. It's just . . . fine. I was consistently hyped throughout Legion and excited to log in and progress a dozen different characters at once. Heck I was probably more excited during BfA, in the "can't look away from a trainwreck" sort of way.

[Well Done Steak]

Meh, I've given my opinion on 11.0. If we are not getting revamp, I'd rather have 11.0 be what 10.0 tried to be; a new MoP. Explore a new land, meet a new civilization, find how it is inextricably tied to the history of the setting. And if it can be an actual continent with at least two expansion's worth of content (and land area) all the better.

Having the grand finale of the Dragon expansion be Titans instead of Dragons is just an ugly pivot. If there IS a 10.3, it should be Iridikron.

Well he's still a contender, just not likely since he's most likely the bridge between DF and 11.0.

Plus 10.3 won't just be titans, it'll be the red dragon flights story as well, Alex is the main character after all.

[Nymrohd]

Well he's still a contender, just not likely since he's most likely the bridge between DF and 11.0.

Plus 10.3 won't just be titans, it'll be the red dragon flights story as well, Alex is the main character after all.

We were told we would know the final villain immediately. And the one the story points at is Iridikron.

Also I'd say for me the more likely bridge is Tyr, not Iridikron. I think if Iridikron has a plot, it should be left to shimmer for at least one expac. Have him cameo in 11.X and only show up in the end to lead to 12.0