The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[zirr]

We were told we would know the final villain immediately. And the one the story points at is Iridikron.

Pretty sure we weren't told that at all and that was just a poor translation, iirc they actually said we would know who the villains were immediately, which we do. My memory is bad tho so somebody else have to confirm that this was the case.

[Well Done Steak]

We were told we would know the final villain immediately. And the one the story points at is Iridikron.

Kinda hard to see that point when he walked through a void portal and Alex implied his story is done for DF

[Chickat]

And down goes 10.1.5 PTR, if no issues pop up they're probably on schedule for it going back up with 10.2 this week, hopefully as soon as right after the reveal on Thursday.

Do we think they will reveal on Thursday?

[Luck4]

Dragons are actually beyond cool.

But damn.... Blizzard team B devs executed it beyond bad.

Sad, sad, sad.... sad world building

I don't think Blizzard executed Dragonflight poorly, especially gameplay-wise. It's the lack of playable races/factions in the main plot that knocks me off.

I still don't understand why, all of a sudden, both the playable races and the factions were excluded from the main plot. Even Khadgar completely vanished after the Vault of the Incarnates.

What happened? This is not Warcraft anymore?

[Scyth]

I also find it odd we are yet to see Ysera at all. Surely she has to be involved this patch..

[Nymrohd]

I also find it odd we are yet to see Ysera at all. Surely she has to be involved this patch..

Why? She will be involved in 10.2 for sure, she doesn't need to be here. And the Greens got some presence with Gerithos. Him, Merithra and Ysera are a decent cast though I wish they used Itharius who is the green we have the oldest relation to.
What IS needed is for a red dragon other than Alexstrasza to be important to the plot but that doesn't seem to be a priority.

[Sneakyphantasm]

these r fun ideas

[Samin]

The Tyranoth ship keeps on sailing!

[Floot]

I'm someone who tends to play WoW almost daily, since forever...

But in Dragonflight it almost feels like there is an overload of "cosmetic" content.

Trying to collect every possible thing and achievement for the Time Rifts felt extremely time-consuming for me and almost draining.

It's a first-world problem though.

Other than that the only other flaw that still remains for me is that mythic raiding difficulty is too hard. Too hard to get into if you for whatever reason might only have a 75% raid-attendance. I'm saying this as someone with two digit CE kills on their account, but who has more real life responsibilities today.

[Nymrohd]

The Tyranoth ship keeps on sailing!

The what now?
Are people shipping Tyr and Vyranoth?
Every day we stray further from the Light. Y'all need Yrel.

[Sondrelk]

I'm someone who tends to play WoW almost daily, since forever...

But in Dragonflight it almost feels like there is an overload of "cosmetic" content.

Trying to collect every possible thing and achievement for the Time Rifts felt extremely time-consuming for me and almost draining.

It's a first-world problem though.

Other than that the only other flaw that still remains for me is that mythic raiding difficulty is too hard. Too hard to get into if you for whatever reason might only have a 75% raid-attendance. I'm saying this as someone with two digit CE kills on their account, but who has more real life responsibilities today.

I think it's more of a failure in specific forms of farming. Time Rifts were especially bad since the most efficient way of farming seemed to be just waiting for the ending, rather than actually engaging with the content.

[Zaganite]

Also, Vyranoths turn feels a bit sudden. 2 Cinematics and one argument with Fyrakk, and shes fully ready to work with her archenemy and captor of thousands of years to backstab her former "brother". That plot couldve really used some more time for that. IF they dont reveal that its actually a setup by her and Fyrakk for some reason, but thats unlikely.

It really isnt that sudden. She made it clear her goal is to rid the world of Titan influence and originally opposed how the Titans forced their change on dragon eggs. Shes now watching Fyrakk do the same to others. She has always been opposed to this so its now going against her ideals. Its the enemy of my enemy trope. Shes not aligned with the order dragons but at the same time doesnt want to force anyone to do something they dont want to do

I mean I'm seeing people say Fyrakk wants to corrupt it for more power, but by burning or corrupting that tree, how would that even empower him? .

Probably the same way the shadowflame empowered him? He wants to corrupt the power of the dream and IMO sever the role and link it has with Azeroth which would also disrupt the life and death cycle which also means affecting Ardenweald. 10.2 will more then likely elaborate on what would happen if he manages to achieve his goal

[Samin]

The what now?
Are people shipping Tyr and Vyranoth?
Every day we stray further from the Light. Y'all need Yrel.

People? I don't know.

Me? Definitely. I just think it would be neat.

I can see them both disillusioned with their original purpose/drive but not ready to give it up but look for a way to do what they think is right (which might pitch them against their former allies/superiors) and bonding over that, obviously after initial animosity.

[Nymrohd]

I think it's more of a failure in specific forms of farming. Time Rifts were especially bad since the most efficient way of farming seemed to be just waiting for the ending, rather than actually engaging with the content.

This is certainly a big issue but imo the lack of polish makes it worse. Part of it would be solved by moving more of the rewards in finishing goals than just getting the chests and then doing the rift boss.

[Lolites]

Legion pretty much intimates that we will take the fight to Argus during the DH starting story with the Sargerei Keystone.

except Argus wasnt even plan at the time of release of legion... island below broken shore on map that was original plan for the patch, later removed (thal-something? idk the name)...
when it was removed and people thought it will be scrapped patch like in wod Ion said no, patch will be but we have something else as "T-island" would be just another night elven ruins

[Nymrohd]

except Argus wasnt even plan at the time of release of legion... island below broken shore on map that was original plan for the patch, later removed (thal-something? idk the name)...
when it was removed and people thought it will be scrapped patch like in wod Ion said no, patch will be but we have something else as "T-island" would be just another night elven ruins

Eh that is just content that was cut because it was judged superfluous. At no point was it indicated that would be the endgame content of Legion, just content for it (probably together with the Broken Shore). The level of effort behind Argus absolutely requires it to have been in production for a long time.

[huth]

The what now?
Are people shipping Tyr and Vyranoth?
Every day we stray further from the Light. Y'all need Yrel.

If you're surprised by that, you haven't had much contact with the shipping community. At least they're both from the same game, have reason to interact and were alive at the same time.

[Nymrohd]

If you're surprised by that, you haven't had much contact with the shipping community. At least they're both from the same game, have reason to interact and were alive at the same time.

Honestly I have indeed stayed away from the warcraft shipping community. And it seems it was the right choice.

[Helothar]

This has been the only good expansion since Mists of Pandaria, are you fucking stupid?

Opinions vary. I, for one, hate DF, it's even below SL in my eyes, can't wait to leave it behind, the story and the world in which it takes place are both just so boring to me. At least I can enjoy legacy content.
I respect others' opinion, though, and I'm glad the current expansion makes other people happy.

[Reive]

Opinions vary. I, for one, hate DF, it's even below SL in my eyes, can't wait to leave it behind, the story and the world in which it takes place are both just so boring to me. At least I can enjoy legacy content.
I respect others' opinion, though, and I'm glad the current expansion makes other people happy.

same. if 10.2 is just the usual and if we get no 10.3 then dragonflight is the worst expansion ever made for me