The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Mecheon]

A different map. Just like Outland and Draenor. Make current world accessible through CoT or whatever other method they come up with.

Hell no. I don't want a situation where there's Stormwind A and Stormwind B. "You hit level 70 and now you enter the new version of Stormwind/Org" is dumb and, frankly, against the very idea of being an MMO. Takes away the whole feel of wandering around town and seeing the high level folks on their showy mounts

[Woggmer]

TBF, I think we’re getting Arakkoa and Ogres. Though I could see the Broken being a cosmetic option for Draenei similar to the Manari or Dark Ranger option.

Ogres, I can see and it is a long requested race that has existed both on Azeroth and Outland/Draenor.

Arakkoa less so. The ones in Outland are a shell of their former selves.. and we have no idea what happened to the ones in AU Draenor, but they sure didn't make the jump with the Mag'har like the other races. So, it is also possible that the Arakkoa were quickly indoctrinated by Yrel and the Naaru to work with the Draenei.. With Lightforged Arakkoa, they can become permanently ascended and not have to worry about their cursed affliction similar to how the Iskar became ascended through Fel magic. (That's just one theory)

[Chickat]

I don’t think we’ll be doing Karesh for a long time to come, given Blizzard’s push to keep us on Azeroth going forward.

I also believe that a straight on void expansion is unlikely, due to their simply not being a recognizable antagonist for us to battle against. Again, look back to Shadowlands and how unpopular the Jailer was as some dark omnipresent force. People didn’t like that, so a faceless bunch of voidlords wouldn’t be compelling villains either.

In the end, if we’re going cosmic, we need an anchor to keep us engaged. In TBC that was Illidan and Kael’theas. In WoD that was Grom, Garrosh, Gul’Dan, Velen, and Durator. SL had no anchor, because Sylvanas’ machinations were murky and increasingly silly. So in short, if we’re zipping into the void we need charismatic and established characters to make that journey enjoyable.

We don’t have them yet.

Azshara, Xal'atath, all the Void elf characters and Ethereal characters? How is that not enough to ground us?

[Woggmer]

Azshara, Xal'atath, all the Void elf characters and Ethereal characters? How is that not enough to ground us?

It isn't like the Void Lords are attacking us or pose a major threat at the moment. Xal'atath could just be doing all this for her own gain and not so much for the Void Lords.

All we do know is that the Void Ethereals are just...monitoring us... at least based on that one questline from the Brawler's Guild.

[Chickat]

I don't see how it's different to stretch the concept of a flowign narrative over the entire expansion though. It would be weird to go from Dun Murogh in the middle of a rebellion plotline, take the train to Stormwind and go outside the gates back into Cataclysm for sure, but not really all that worse than any other case where a story should be ongoing just over the hill but somehow isnt.

And I do remember Tanaan not being available until 6.2. I honestly thought it built up the mystery, even if it was impossible to properly explain within the context of the game why there was an invisible wall at the beach.
The story in a hypothetical procedurally revamped EK/Kalimdor would simply never give us any reason to go to a specific zone until it's actually finished, much in the same way the Blue Dragonflight questline in 10.1 simply never acknowledges that the areas you go to should look wildly different. Why for instance is Dalaran still above Crystalsong forest despite knowing it's moved years ago? Or why is Booty Bay still partially ruined when it's been years since the tidal wave happened? Did the inhabitants decide they liked the look?`

In the map you linked you would simply look over the Thandol Span at launch and know that whatever is on the other side simply isnt relevant yet. Just like how you look at the ship going to Northrend in Stormwind and pretend like the Northrend it's going to looks different.

i agree with you tbh. And that image with all that cool patch content? That gets me excited.

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It's not just "There are primalists".

•Entire pre-patch event was about the four elements
•Every single zone, including both patch zones, has large elementally infused areas and areas being occupied by elementals.
•Professions not only use elemental materials, the Dragonflight trees nearly all have sections based on elements, Frost and Air potions and phials for alchemy, molten armor and weapons for BS, element themed darkmoon decks, element themed gem sets, flame-infused LW sets, engineers make devices for capturing elemental souls
•Gathering nodes come in special element-infused varieties
•Leather and cloth come in element-infused varieties
•The primary antagonists* are four proto-dragons each representing one of the four elements
•Entire first tier is an elemental raid of nothing but elemental bosses
•First added zone invasion event is elemental storms hitting specific areas
•Second event is fire specific elementally infused enemies attacking specific areas
•Elemental-themed trinkets, effect rings, embellishments, etc. all over the place

Like what are you expecting to happen here? That there's going to be a whole SECOND expansion where every aspect is element themed? This is the element expansion. They didn't go through and make literally everything element themed so that they could do an element expansion later. If they were planning to make an elemental expansion next, they would have just leaned very very hard into the flights aspect. You'd have gathering nodes with Green, Blue, Bronze, Black and Red infused special forms and proto-drake/drakonid standard invasions, and the Primalists would be a minor secondary enemy that shows up in 10.3, not the primary from pre-patch through every zone and into each patch location.

Dragonflight is no more elemental themed than WoD was Legion themed and then we immediately got Legion after WoD. So I completely disagree. Not saying 11.0 is Elemental themed but it could be.

[huth]

The next expansion is going to be elements. Azeroth is going to be born and all druids and shamans gather.

- Who has experience assisting with a birth?
- Thrall: I am a father.
- OK, guide us, Thrall.

The Scarlet Crusade tries to stop Thrall because Azeroth is corrupted by the void.

That makes no sense. The Crusade would oppose him because he is an Orc, not because of any valid issues.

[Santandame]

i agree with you tbh. And that image with all that cool patch content? That gets me excited.

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Dragonflight is no more elemental themed than WoD was Legion themed and then we immediately got Legion after WoD. So I completely disagree. Not saying 11.0 is Elemental themed but it could be.

Well there a silly take isn’t it. WoD pivoted to Legion in the final patch with one Legion themed dungeon prior and one Legion chapter levelling in Talador.

Dragonflight has had a massive elemental theme on par with dragons as @Hitei has evidenced. You cannot fairly compare that with WoD.

[Cheezits]

One big thing pointing to an Elemental and/or revamp expansion: they are being incredibly cagey about Magatha's status, considering the Grimtotem presence with the Primalists.

[Catastrophy349]

I can't wait for 10.1.7 to release tomorrow so we can talk about SOMETHING ELSE!

[Civciv]

I wonder if Merithra's gonna get a new model tomorrow...

[Cheezits]

I can't wait for 10.1.7 to release tomorrow so we can talk about SOMETHING ELSE!

I guarantee the Night Elf questline will have something people don't like and it will be the major shitstorm/ragebait for the next few days, at least until 10.2 announcement.

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I wonder if Merithra's gonna get a new model tomorrow...

Probably. The real burning question: will Shandris?

[Catastrophy349]

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I guarantee the Night Elf questline will have something people don't like and it will be the major shitstorm/ragebait for the next few days, at least until 10.2 announcement.

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Probably. The real burning question: will Shandris?

BURNING QUESTION!!! AHHHHH!!!

[huth]

Dragonflight is no more elemental themed than WoD was Legion themed and then we immediately got Legion after WoD. So I completely disagree. Not saying 11.0 is Elemental themed but it could be.

DF is most certainly more elemental themed than WoD was Legion themed. Legion themes were mainly in 6.2, with only minor occurances in 6.0. Elements are everywhere in 10.0 and 10.1.

[Luck4]

Here's a fun conversation: I hear A LOT of people (basically everywhere and anywhere) discussing "World Revamp" as a talking point. To anyone willing to respond, what version of a "world revamp" would you like to see (because to many different people it means different things)?

I want a revamp that would allow Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms to be used again in future expansions if it fits the narrative, to avoid a situation like Amirdrassil in Dragon Isles, the Horde leaders having a meeting in Stormsong, the Legion Invasions only happening in Broken Isles when it was supposedly happening everywhere, you got the idea.

A revamp that would renew Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms in a constructive way, instead of a destructive revamp like we had in Cataclysm.

[Civciv]

Burning questions : Will Ysera do something? Reunite with Alextrasza?

[Catastrophy349]

Burning questions : Will Ysera do something? Reunite with Alextrasza?

What's with all of the BURNING jokes?!?!?!

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I want a revamp that would allow Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms to be used again in future expansions if it fits the narrative, to avoid a situation like Armidrassil in Dragon Isles, the Horde leaders having a meeting in Stormsong, the Legion Invasions only happening in Broken Isles when it was supposedly happening everywhere, you got the idea.

A revamp that would renew Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms in a constructive way, instead of a destructive revamp like we had in Cataclysm.

Alexstrasza did say that "the world is healing" in the Dragonflight cinematic (meaning the whole of Azeroth, so.....).

[Civciv]

What's with all of the BURNING jokes?!?!?!

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Alexstrasza did say that "the world is healing" in the Dragonflight cinematic (meaning the whole of Azeroth, so.....).

Sorry.... can't stop myself.

[Reive]

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i hate how they fucked up the new model of kalecgos. the blue dragonflight should have wings that reach the tail. kalecgos has that on the concept art, but doesn't in game. it's a shame because that is such an unique feature to have

[Luck4]

Qwik on twitter: No pirates.

https://x.com/qwik/status/1698517913...WrsOhSSDZQB1vA

I think we've been over this twice at this point, maybe 3 times.

[Catastrophy349]

By this time tomorrow, we will either be celebrating or arguing over NEW LORE from 10.1.7. Exciting times!