The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Worldshaper]

It's useful to remind ourselves of the theory popularised by Taliesin, that Blizzard's take on a World Revamp might simply be to send us to the other side of the world, and pretty much reboot the lore over there.

Kalimdor and EK would still exist (with small enhancements), and purists could still play Classic for that true Azeroth experience. But for the retail crowd, the "WoW 1.5" experience might simply be found beyond the waves.

[Sondrelk]

Not disagreeing, but that still doesn't solve the problem of having too little distance from coast to coast as you fly over it with Dragonriding.

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Ooh, hype!

East to west, sure. But you still have all of North to south, which in my mind feels much more worthy of Dragonriding than even the Dragon Isles felt.

To me it's all about justifying a massive world without needing to also have teleportation like what Cata did.

[Cheezits]

soon

Could it be getting announced today??

[Sondrelk]

It's useful to remind ourselves of the theory popularised by Taliesin, that Blizzard's take on a World Revamp might simply be to send us to the other side of the world, and pretty much reboot the lore over there.

Kalimdor and EK would still exist (with small enhancements), and purists could still play Classic for that true Azeroth experience. But for the retail crowd, the "WoW 1.5" experience might simply be found beyond the waves.

I really don't see what that would achieve. It just sounds to me like all the effort of revamping the old world without the actual benefits of being able to pull on established lore players are into.

[Worldshaper]

I really don't see what that would achieve. It just sounds to me like all the effort of revamping the old world without the actual benefits of being able to pull on established lore players are into.

Not saying you're wrong, just offering a potential answer to the question we're all asking. Blizzard logic doesn't always 1:1 player logic. They have shareholders, legacy code, and budgets to work with. Not to mention the creative aspirations of their staff.

To me, a massive world revamp in time for the 20th anniversary is just about the most sensible thing in the entire world. To Ion? Who knows.

[Worldshaper]

What time is the patch live in the US BTW? I want cinematics!

[Cheezits]

There's too many old world questlines setup now for them to do a soft revamp on a new continent IMO. Like how do you reclaim Gilneas but then go elsewhere? How do you cleanse the House of Nobles?

[Marlamin]

What time is the patch live in the US BTW? I want cinematics!

Anywhere from now to like 5-6 hours from now depending if maintenance goes late or not.

[Raetary]

soon

Bring forth hype!

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Could it be getting announced today??

I very much doubt that.

We'll likely see it this thursday.
Announcing it today takes away the attention from 10.1.7.

[Draedarr]

The hype is back in town

[Hitei]

Bring forth hype!

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I very much doubt that.

We'll likely see it this thursday.
Announcing it today takes away the attention from 10.1.7.

10.1 was announced before 10.0.7 even released. The morning after its PTR was added to the battle.net selection(?).

[Cheezits]

They should announce 10.2 now before the new patch drops. For fun.

[Skildar]

Most issues people had with BFA from 8.2 onwards were self-inflicted.

That could unfortunately be said for many features.
One of the issue of World of Warcraft is that you have a lot of activities but some are more rewarding towards your power level and others are not at all. This creates a sense of time management that really hurts the game each patch release and especially on expansion release.

I remember that when Shadowlands released, each I ventured into the maw it felt like I wasn't doing the right activities filling up the jailer's eye. It's quite symptomatic of the game activities as a whole. You'll find very few people who targets pet battles at launch. It's the second expansion where if you burn yourself leveling up your professions at launch you can become a billionaire.

There are objectives that only world first guilds should target, others that mythic raiding guilds need their members to do and the rest should feel like there isn't a strong incentive to do it. The truth is that even casual players did feel a strong incentive to make choices that would reward them little.

talents, covenant, thorghast with intermediary powers, island expedition, nazjatar pearls and benthic gear, levels ahead of expected artefact power, etc.

[Ersula]

Bring forth hype!

The 10.2 ptr realms are online & playable but its just 10.1.7 that's weird right?

[Hitei]

The 10.2 ptr realms are online & playable but its just 10.1.7 that's weird right?

No. They change the names before they change the data.

[ChairmanKaga]

There's too many old world questlines setup now for them to do a soft revamp on a new continent IMO. Like how do you reclaim Gilneas but then go elsewhere? How do you cleanse the House of Nobles?

I think it's overlooked by some that a "world revamp" of EK and Kalimdor isn't only about updated assets but also progressing the story of the home/main areas of the world. I actually prefer most of the Cata updates but it would be nice to see a significant portion of the old zones getting the treatment Darkshore and Arathi Highlands got in BfA. Plus now that they have the talk to a bronze dragon in the area gimmick the Cata versions would always exist.

[Hyrja]

Its actually the 10.1.5 ptr that will be updated to 10.2 so for now its still the 10.1.5 client

[Santandame]

It's useful to remind ourselves of the theory popularised by Taliesin, that Blizzard's take on a World Revamp might simply be to send us to the other side of the world, and pretty much reboot the lore over there.

Kalimdor and EK would still exist (with small enhancements), and purists could still play Classic for that true Azeroth experience. But for the retail crowd, the "WoW 1.5" experience might simply be found beyond the waves.

Which wouldn’t be a world revamp. It would be a new continent that we’ve seen in every expansion.

[Reive]

still waiting for "this week in wow"

[Worldshaper]

still waiting for "this week in wow"

Guessing 10 mins from now is our next best bet on big news!