1. #15381
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post


    IF this is real, those could very possibly be Lightbound Orcs. Fel and Void warps the appearance of people, why couldn't the light do so as well? It also sort of matches what fans have speculated Lightbound orcs to look like.
    To be honest I see absolutely no resemblence to anything I have seen that is somehow bound to Light force. In fact, as far as I recall, everything that has some connection to light is precisely opposite to void/ fel. It’s never warped or malformed, but rather uplifted, pristine, clean and anything else that goes with a classic understanding of sacred.
    Of course, you can assume it might be the lightbound aesthetics, but I see zero reason to take that stance.

    On the other hand, the character is pretty much an orc. Greenish skin, strong facial features, massive jawline, orcish teeth. What’s off for sure are the long, probably pointy ears. In fact, if any force that is established in WoW, had anything to do with that, it would be the Fel, since this characters looks like soul-sucked Durotan in Warcraft movie.

    Also, it has a red glow in it’s eyes which also suggests fel’s stuff.

    But it’s nowhere near the lightbound, and for sure not to state it’s very possible

  2. #15382
    If it's not fake, I think it's pretty clearly some new race related to Orcs. This would relate to how Avaloren/new stuff is supposedly to the Far West (aka close to Kalimdor) and how Thrall will probably be a main character.

  3. #15383
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    I do think they will give us some detail about what comes after 10.2 other than the expansion reveal, at blizzcon. They're not ever going to make a fully rendered cinematic for a patch, that's an expansion-only thing.

    That being said, the Nelf Heritage armor has an in-game cutscene that looks like one of the pre-rendered machinema cutscenes. It was really good. 11.0 is going to be really impressive.
    • Calia is not a commoner, she was the Princess of Lordaeron. Bolvar is from a Noble Stormwind family. We know from Jaina's backstory that the Human Kingdom leaders would have parties every year where they all intermingled. What she looks like now doesn't matter if she introduces herself as "Calia Menethil" which she does.
    • That's not how Bolvar described his wife's death.
    • Bolvar calls her his wife, telling us they were married. Calia specifically states they were not married.
    • Calia is told her husband & child died in a scourge attack but at no point were Bolvar & Taelia declared missing in action or dead, whereas Calia used this to fake her death. Meanwile Bolvar is so famous he became the High Regent of the Alliance in Varian's absence. So who told her they were dead? If someone did it would be promptly debunked by a second opinion.
    Oh wow so you are just choosing to be argumentative

    Calia lied to her husband about her identity

    Both families are presumed dead pretty sure missing persons wasn't exactly on the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebron View Post
    To be honest I see absolutely no resemblence to anything I have seen that is somehow bound to Light force. In fact, as far as I recall, everything that has some connection to light is precisely opposite to void/ fel. It’s never warped or malformed, but rather uplifted, pristine, clean and anything else that goes with a classic understanding of sacred.
    Of course, you can assume it might be the lightbound aesthetics, but I see zero reason to take that stance.

    On the other hand, the character is pretty much an orc. Greenish skin, strong facial features, massive jawline, orcish teeth. What’s off for sure are the long, probably pointy ears. In fact, if any force that is established in WoW, had anything to do with that, it would be the Fel, since this characters looks like soul-sucked Durotan in Warcraft movie.

    Also, it has a red glow in it’s eyes which also suggests fel’s stuff.

    But it’s nowhere near the lightbound, and for sure not to state it’s very possible
    Again, compared to standard Draenor Orcs;



    That warped looking orc is an improvement.



    Also Orcs were already twisted by fel, and they never looked like that. This is clearly a different cosmic force twisting their appearance.

    If that image is legit of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    If it's not fake, I think it's pretty clearly some new race related to Orcs. This would relate to how Avaloren/new stuff is supposedly to the Far West (aka close to Kalimdor) and how Thrall will probably be a main character.
    Orcs aren't native to Azeroth though. They're essentially aliens from Draenor. Why would there be a new race of Orcs on a lost continent?

    If we're being real here, there's really only one place where a new variety of orcs could come from.
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  5. #15385
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    As far as we know.....

    Also CGI orcs are pretty ugly to begin with;

    Why would the design be basically a zombie though? From just a visual level, you want to make things visually distinct so you know what you're up against, and WoW's always been good at that. Even in Shadowlands, everything we went up against had a very distinctive visual flair to it that immediately made it clear what you were up against. Maw enemies had different visual looks than Forsworn ones despite those two starting as allies

    Here's the thing, you want to sell people on "Here's this new exciting thing happening and its Different". Heck, let's bring up Sin Eaters even, we're talking about light magic corrupting things.

    Here's how we first saw what a Sin Eater be. They are blatently Different enemies from the usual stuff you fight and have a clear visual design to them, looking like living marble statues. Then later you get to see someone turned into a Sin Eater in a flat out horror scene to really press home how wrong the things are. But all through, they have a distinctive visual design. When you fight a Sin Eater, be it from a bear or a bird or anything, you know its a Sin Eater, even if its something as weird as a giant cube

    WoW is good at the 'things being linked by a consistent visual design', they're not going to give up on decades of 'Here's what the Light looks like on things'

  6. #15386
    That's not what an orc looks like, at all.

  7. #15387
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurkan View Post
    That's not what an orc looks like, at all.
    It would feel far more at home in Diablo IMO.

  8. #15388
    Anyone else think the new Legendary is going to be the Axe of Cenarius? It would definitely fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post

    Orcs aren't native to Azeroth though. They're essentially aliens from Draenor. Why would there be a new race of Orcs on a lost continent?

    If we're being real here, there's really only one place where a new variety of orcs could come from.
    They arnt from Azeroth BUT they are the result of Aggramar's creation SO maybe he also created a titanforged orc race on Azeroth?

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    Image looks more like a Diablo IV leak than a WoW leak to be honest, assuming its even real.


    This bit is definitely the most "AI-looking" segment of the image though, but it could be an odd-looking frame because the object is in motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    Image looks more like a Diablo IV leak than a WoW leak to be honest, assuming its even real.


    This bit is definitely the most "AI-looking" segment of the image though, but it could be an odd-looking frame because the object is in motion.

    You know that's Odyn, right? ahahahahahahhahah

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    Bad joke, I'm sorry. I just find it hilarious that we've spent so many pages on this "leak". It could be the "gingerbread man" it's so blurry!

  11. #15391
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    Image looks more like a Diablo IV leak than a WoW leak to be honest, assuming its even real.


    This bit is definitely the most "AI-looking" segment of the image though, but it could be an odd-looking frame because the object is in motion.

    Actually, if you look at it, you can see the "thing" in the background wearing the same kind of red-ish tissue necklace the orc in the foreground is. Also, the armor they have on their shoulder looks the same. Finally, regarding the head shape, you can see 2 horn-type growth on the side of his forehead while the top of it seems pointy too. Which match the shape of the creature in the background.
    The two .. "blades", i'd go for them being part of the shoulder plates, or some growth out of their back. But they are the same looking specie, wearing the same looking armor.

  12. #15392
    Quote Originally Posted by Echil46 View Post
    Actually, if you look at it, you can see the "thing" in the background wearing the same kind of red-ish tissue necklace the orc in the foreground is. Also, the armor they have on their shoulder looks the same. Finally, regarding the head shape, you can see 2 horn-type growth on the side of his forehead while the top of it seems pointy too. Which match the shape of the creature in the background.
    The two .. "blades", i'd go for them being part of the shoulder plates, or some growth out of their back. But they are the same looking specie, wearing the same looking armor.
    That's what makes me think this isn't AI. They both have the same red scarf, similar shoulders and bald weird green heads with pointy ears.

    The thing in the background could be anything, but their models are close to identical.

    At this point I'm just unsure if it's Warcraft at all. But they are wearing a lot of clothes for Diablo...?

  13. #15393
    That is obviously Fyrakk
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

  14. #15394
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    Image looks more like a Diablo IV leak than a WoW leak to be honest, assuming its even real.


    This bit is definitely the most "AI-looking" segment of the image though, but it could be an odd-looking frame because the object is in motion.

    I see a squidface void dude in the center, wearing shoulder armor that has two large, unwieldy spikes.

  15. #15395
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The thing in the background could be anything, but their models are close to identical.

    At this point I'm just unsure if it's Warcraft at all. But they are wearing a lot of clothes for Diablo...?
    Looking at the Grom model, the guy in the leak looks almost identical. Plus all the clothing in the cgi cinematics looks diablo-esque.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    Calia lied to her husband about her identity
    No she didn't. Why would she? Even in her account she told her parents about the relationship & pregnancy immediately but they made her marry a noblemen anyway. And you still didn't address where Bolvar & his unnamed wife were married & Calia and her unnamed beau were not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revamp Man View Post
    Both families are presumed dead pretty sure missing persons wasn't exactly on the case
    But they weren't. Bolvar & Taelia were never presumed dead, they weren't even in a life or death situation that Calia described.

    You've oversimplified the description of events so far your version doesn't match the canon anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    I see a squidface void dude in the center, wearing shoulder armor that has two large, unwieldy spikes.
    I bet ten bucks its just a human in plate armor with two big flags in the background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    Why would the design be basically a zombie though? From just a visual level, you want to make things visually distinct so you know what you're up against, and WoW's always been good at that. Even in Shadowlands, everything we went up against had a very distinctive visual flair to it that immediately made it clear what you were up against. Maw enemies had different visual looks than Forsworn ones despite those two starting as allies
    What makes you think it looks like a zombie? There's no flesh peeling off, it doesn't look emaciated, and there's not threads holding it's body together, it just looks grey.

    Here's the thing, you want to sell people on "Here's this new exciting thing happening and its Different". Heck, let's bring up Sin Eaters even, we're talking about light magic corrupting things.

    Here's how we first saw what a Sin Eater be. They are blatently Different enemies from the usual stuff you fight and have a clear visual design to them, looking like living marble statues. Then later you get to see someone turned into a Sin Eater in a flat out horror scene to really press home how wrong the things are. But all through, they have a distinctive visual design. When you fight a Sin Eater, be it from a bear or a bird or anything, you know its a Sin Eater, even if its something as weird as a giant cube

    WoW is good at the 'things being linked by a consistent visual design', they're not going to give up on decades of 'Here's what the Light looks like on things'
    Okay, but if this is real, we haven't seen the entire CGI intro yet, so it's a bit early to say that this doesn't have a consistent design with WoW. Also IF these are Lightbound Orcs, it wouldn't be giving up on what the Light looks like, it would be an expansion of what it looks like.

  17. #15397
    I'm happy to be wrong but I also don't think that "leak" is from anything WoW related. Will find out tomorrow I guess.

  18. #15398
    it does look like a bloodthirsty orc, twisted with some power, but I think we can safely say it's not a light bound orc, he looks more undead, eyes are red. light bound would have been brown to began with, in AU draenor they didn't take the fel

  19. #15399
    So. Couple of things. You can only see a couple of strands, and they are same color as the scarf, but this thing has hair.
    Also, what could be seen as the start of an ear, i think are two different horns, growing out its cheekbone, making 3 in total on the right side of its face. If not horns, then the whole ear is circled with that orange tint. The chin is split, and there's a bump on its hear. Seeing all those makes me feel like its not zombie, but something that made their bone almost outgrow their skin.

    Compare it to Grom's picture, they have no lip. It's emaciated, but not because it's thin, but because the bones are too big. Which would be consistent with growing horns. Which makes me think those things the second creature has, are some sort of litteral shoulderblades growing from its back. Think Guldan atop the nighthold.

    So i'd wager its a real leak, but... that feels too "body horror", so maybe not a warcraft leak.

  20. #15400
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    What makes you think it looks like a zombie? There's no flesh peeling off, it doesn't look emaciated, and there's not threads holding it's body together, it just looks grey.
    His skin is stretched tight across his cheeks, that ain't what healthy, alive people look like. Dude looks like a withered corpse and.... Honestly, given the nose and ears, looks a lot bat like than an orc. Frankly, dude looks like an orc vampire if anything

    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Okay, but if this is real, we haven't seen the entire CGI intro yet, so it's a bit early to say that this doesn't have a consistent design with WoW. Also IF these are Lightbound Orcs, it wouldn't be giving up on what the Light looks like, it would be an expansion of what it looks like.
    We don't even know if its for WoW yet or Invasion of the Batlings, the hot new mobile gacha game.

    If they're going to be Lightforged orcs, they are going to look like Lightforged orcs, not horned tusked vampires. Like, that image would work more as "Dreadlord infected orc" than it would Lightforged. That image is what I'd expect from Denathrius coming back, not anything remotely to do with the Light.
    Last edited by Mecheon; 2023-09-07 at 01:04 AM.

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