1. #15401
    those two horns behind, could be separate from him, and something in the background??

  2. #15402
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    His skin is stretched tight across his cheeks, that ain't what healthy, alive people look like. Dude looks like a withered corpse and.... Honestly, given the nose, looks a lot bat like than an orc. Frankly, dude looks like an orc vampire if anything


    We don't even know if its for WoW yet or Invasion of the Batlings, the hot new mobile gacha game.

    If they're going to be Lightforged orcs, they are going to look like Lightforged orcs, not horned tusked vampires. Like, that image would work more as "Dreadlord infected orc" than it would Lightforged. That image is what I'd expect from Denathrius coming back, not anything remotely to do with the Light.
    Again, you're comparing in game models to CG models. Look at the Orcs in the WoD cinematic. They looked far more disgusting and nightmarish than playable orcs, and they weren't even corrupted. Further, IF this is a Lightbound invasion, we don't know at what point this invasion is taking place on Yrel's side. This could be days, decades, or centuries after the Mag'har fled Draenor. If we're talking decades, there's no telling how much every creature could be physically warped by the Nauru's influence.

    There's no hard rules to this. Blizzard can twist the rules any way they want. The bottom line is that if this is a WoW leak, there's only so many relevant cosmic forces that would bring an army of weird looking orcs our way, and the prime candidate is Yrel's Lightbound army.

  3. #15403
    Quote Originally Posted by Scyth View Post
    I also find it odd we are yet to see Ysera at all. Surely she has to be involved this patch..
    beware the eyes of green
    we lost malfurion for her and shes just MIA
    though that was to nerf the cast

  4. #15404
    he looks like he is already green, AU draenor orcs didn't take the fel. the maghar would be brown, plus the red eyes, frail, the little horns... doesn't seem the light's work. he looks more as if reanimated.
    though after checking previous orcs from cinematic, his ear is very different in shape, much bigger too

  5. #15405
    Quote Originally Posted by Safio View Post
    he looks like he is already green, AU draenor orcs didn't take the fel. the maghar would be brown, plus the red eyes, frail, the little horns... doesn't seem the light's work. he looks more as if reanimated.
    though after checking previous orcs from cinematic, his ear is very different in shape, much bigger too
    It does appear to be an orc & human. Ala the very first warcraft 3 cinematic. If this is real, it means they did take the anniversary into consideration for 11.0 (also suggesting a November 2024 release date)

    It's funny that Metzen's influence on both 11.0 & the Warcraft movie was "Add an homage to the reign of chaos cinematic"

    Who gave the theory about another Alternate timeline? If it's supposed to be an Orcs Versus Humans homage, I'm notcing without the warm light of the room, it looks like the Human is wearing red under his armor & the orc is wearing blue, (the warm light making the blue look black) the reverse of the colors associated with them in the og cinematic. Has the prime timeline changed?
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  6. #15406
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Again, you're comparing in game models to CG models. Look at the Orcs in the WoD cinematic. They looked far more disgusting and nightmarish than playable orcs, and they weren't even corrupted. Further, IF this is a Lightbound invasion, we don't know at what point this invasion is taking place on Yrel's side. This could be days, decades, or centuries after the Mag'har fled Draenor. If we're talking decades, there's no telling how much every creature could be physically warped by the Nauru's influence.

    There's no hard rules to this. Blizzard can twist the rules any way they want. The bottom line is that if this is a WoW leak, there's only so many relevant cosmic forces that would bring an army of weird looking orcs our way, and the prime candidate is Yrel's Lightbound army.
    I'm not even comparing it to anything, I'm looking at the one model presented here by itself. Sure, the WoD cinematic orcs didn't look beautiful, but they had muscle. They had mass. They looked healthy. This dude looks like a withered corpse that got up walking, to say nothing for the horn out his head (which frankly is probably an AI artifact). Seriously, just LOOK at those cheek-bones. Does that look alive to you?

    Sure there's no hard rules to this, but if a dude has a bat-like nose, bat like ears, tiny pin-prick eyes and a withered, corpse-like appearance, then I'm going to assume its a vampire or at least evoking the idea of being a vampire, not something bathed in holy magic. You could drop that same image in an Elder Scrolls fan discord and tell them ESO is adding Vampire Lords as a playable option and frankly, that image would be more believed there as "Yup, that's a Vampire Lord Orc" than anything to do with the Lightforged. That's before you even get to the horns which, hrm, I wonder what horned vampiric things we know about in this game who always generally look like corpses even at the best of times, due to being associated with Death?

  7. #15407
    Gonna go out on a limb and guess that the leak is real. Looks very convincing to me. Definitely think that's a dreadlord. Too many vampiric features for it not to be. Can't wait to find out if I'm right or wrong!

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    was replying to someone saying that this is a lightbound orc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    except Argus wasnt even plan at the time of release of legion...
    It was, actually. Blizzard most likely already has at least a rough plan on where to take things through the entire expansion's lifetime. To say that Argus wasn't in the pipeline by Legion's release is... naive. Nonsensical, even.

    island below broken shore on map that was original plan for the patch, later removed (thal-something? idk the name)...
    when it was removed and people thought it will be scrapped patch like in wod Ion said no, patch will be but we have something else as "T-island" would be just another night elven ruins
    Any evidence of that? This is the first time I've heard of that one.
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  10. #15410
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    The text is misaligned,—which is suitable to the idea it's ML-generated because any text would likely have to be added manually,—the design looks very strange and out-of-place, the design in the background looks weird and very much brings to mind the kind of thing that an ML art program might generate in the background. I'm of the mind it looks fake. Due to the way in which the text is misaligned, I'm even of the mind he might have added it after he took the photo.
    But thats the thing, if that pic is AI, and the "Confidential" text was manually added later...why didnt the creator align the writing with the upper frame of the video. It would mean that dude went through the effort of having a good AI create a pretty realistic pic (as others have already said, this is better than standart AI stuff everyone could do in a minute)...only to then screw it all up by writing on it it and not even bothering to align the text with the frame, which wouldve taken around 30 seconds.
    Who would spend so much of effort, only to ruin it with the most obvious and easily fixable thing at the very end.

    Not saying the picture is definitely real ofc, but also not ruling it out as definitely fake so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    My one fear is that the raid takes place in the copy of the World Tree's capital city, and they design it as a raid first and foremost. So the layout gets fucked up similar to Dazar'alor and it isn't a well designed city if/when it gets transported to reality.
    I hoping the three's layout is like the Grove from GW2, ex. multiple 'floors' and a spiral staircase in the center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Actually, Dream forms would be cool but who wants to bet they limit it to three new sets? Mecha, High Elf & Alien Druid Forms are the only new ones they make? They could go generic, and they should be giving us more form options since adding the customization feature, but I think this is better. A Mechagnome turning into a regular bear wouldn't feel right.

    Elune Druid Forms: Night Elves, Nightborne
    Darkspear Druid Forms: Trolls
    Zandalari Druid Forms: Zandalari Trolls
    Drust Druid Forms: Kul Tirans, Humans, Forsaken
    Earthwalker & Spiritwalker Druid Forms: Tauren, Highmountain Tauren, Orc, Mag'har Orc (interchangable, but orcs get version without horns)
    High Elf Druid Forms: Blood Elf, Void Elf
    Mecha Druid Forms: Gnomes, Goblins, Mechagnomes
    Argus Druid Forms: Draenei & Lightforged Draenei
    I think Zandalari should be able to use the Darkspear forms too. Both ARE trolls after all.
    I don't play WoW anymore smh.

  12. #15412
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Any evidence of that? This is the first time I've heard of that one.
    It was called Tal'dranath and was shown on maps during gamescom. But vanished very quickly.

    https://media.mmo-champion.com/image...t/Panel007.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolites View Post
    except Argus wasnt even plan at the time of release of legion... island below broken shore on map that was original plan for the patch, later removed (thal-something? idk the name)...
    when it was removed and people thought it will be scrapped patch like in wod Ion said no, patch will be but we have something else as "T-island" would be just another night elven ruins


    lol... what on Earth even made you so self confident about this statement?
    just lol....
    if you remember Hayven Games (youtuber who passed away some years ago. he even has an ingame NPC in his honor), hes the 1 who datamined and made a video about argusian zones/sky boxes. They were in game files even in Legion beta.

    it's extremely rare (*cough* WOD *cough*) that blizzard changes/abandons/adds/removes content in current expansion.
    the moment some expansions hits X.0 patch, it's pretty much set in stone where it leads and they start working on next exp. Very small number of devs work on .1, .2, .3... etc, etc, etc... it was stated multiple times by Blizzard already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houle View Post
    But thats the thing, if that pic is AI, and the "Confidential" text was manually added later...why didnt the creator align the writing with the upper frame of the video. It would mean that dude went through the effort of having a good AI create a pretty realistic pic (as others have already said, this is better than standart AI stuff everyone could do in a minute)...only to then screw it all up by writing on it it and not even bothering to align the text with the frame, which wouldve taken around 30 seconds.
    Who would spend so much of effort, only to ruin it with the most obvious and easily fixable thing at the very end.

    Not saying the picture is definitely real ofc, but also not ruling it out as definitely fake so far.
    Somebody who has access to a good AI but little editing skill.

  15. #15415
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Who gave the theory about another Alternate timeline? If it's supposed to be an Orcs Versus Humans homage, I'm notcing without the warm light of the room, it looks like the Human is wearing red under his armor & the orc is wearing blue, (the warm light making the blue look black) the reverse of the colors associated with them in the og cinematic. Has the prime timeline changed?
    That was me spitballing though I was going with it being a Scourge Orc (Scorc?) vs a Hordey Human.

  16. #15416
    Another reason I think the leak is real is the "randomness" of it. What I mean is that fake leakers usually tend to draw from popular theories since they know it'll stir the pot.

    For 11.0, the popular theories are pirates, titans, and light v void.

    The leak has none of that.

    I'd be more inclined to call bullshit if the leak was a random naaru, or a boat or some titanic figure.

    Instead we get some weird distorted orc looking creature and another one too blurry to tell.


    If it was fake, why make something no one can recognize.

    So here's some examples on leaks that were real.

    So the bolvar leak, people thought it was fake since bolvar'd body was orange while the helm was blue.

    I say that's what proved it was real, because why would leaker make his helm blue??? If it was fake then his helm would have been orange too, because that's what people expect.

    Now for DF, the Alex print art gave it away because of the staff that Alex was holding.

    Alex never held any weapons, so why would a leaker randomly give her a staff???

    So basically the more random a cinematic leak is the more likely it's real since fake leakers wanna pull people in with what they know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houle View Post
    But thats the thing, if that pic is AI, and the "Confidential" text was manually added later...why didnt the creator align the writing with the upper frame of the video. It would mean that dude went through the effort of having a good AI create a pretty realistic pic (as others have already said, this is better than standart AI stuff everyone could do in a minute)...only to then screw it all up by writing on it it and not even bothering to align the text with the frame, which wouldve taken around 30 seconds.
    I'm not sure what the leaker was thinking in doing so, but I think it could just be written off as a very bad idea. If I had to give a reason for how the incredibly misaligned text got through, I think it's possible the "confidential" text wasn't added to the AI-generated image, but instead added directly to the picture of the screen. While it would be a very odd slip-up to make if the text was put directly on the image and would probably require that the creator was trying to get that detail noticed due to the sheer egregiousness of the incongruity, it's easier to imagine how they could've managed to screw up the text trying to maximize its visibility while also trying to vaguely angle it in a semi-convincing way. While they may have been meticulous in generating a relatively convincing piece, which probably required some very specific parameters and references, it's entirely possible that meticulousness did not extend to the second half of creating the leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    I see a squidface void dude in the center, wearing shoulder armor that has two large, unwieldy spikes.
    I see what looks like a spikier version of the Miraak mask from Skyrim. Still, I'm going with that it's a product of the idiosyncrasies of ML generation. While it may be blurred, it still strikes me as a dead ringer for a particularly good ML background figure.
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    Don't mess with time

    I will repeat my post again:

    I see this as a remastered/reinvented version of the Warcraft 3 intro cinematic - but at the end - they kill an Inferanal or whatever comes from the sky (if) and when the "orc" takes off his helmet we see it's not an 'orc' but a DREADLORD or (Orc twisted by DREDLORDS not fel 'this time') - will fulfill the ultimate plan to corrupt/infiltrate all realites.

    =>Enemy Infiltration - Preface: Shadowlands Book on Cosmos-Wide Deception Written by a Dreadlord<=


    ***

    And I will also add:

    This 'second' character looks like some variation on BFA warfront alliance armor / we see a character in a horned helmet with a 2-handed axe on his back,


    ***

    There is also a small questline in current patch, where we help Nozdromu and Eternus (Infinite Dragonflight) save her sister in tanaris - by the way playing with 'time' leading to worse and worse outcome than it was before.


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    From my perspective:
    how come there was no Galakrond raid?!
    how come they didn't do a whole patch/raid with time travel?

    Is it possible that the whole Expansion will focus on jumping around in time and place - repairing the huge damage done by 'us' and our careless playing with time or by Infinite Dragonflight?

    with remastered Tanaris/Caverns of Time (bronze dragonflight) - serving as a hub?
    while visiting the 'reborn' Azeroth and its unreleased / scrapped parts? (from before)

    with the help of Khadgar and Elisande? (and few others whom we meet on the way)


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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage79 View Post
    With the help of Khadgar and Elisande? (and few others whom we meet on the way)
    Wouldn't mind seeing her again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    That is obviously Fyrakk
    The amount of people so confidently saying this really speaks volumes to how fucking blind people on this forum are.

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