The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[micwini]

Oh, definitely. There's much more stuff than has been reported on as well so far, even going back as far as 10.0.0. It'll be a lot of fun to see how many of those predicted dots actually end up connecting, and more interestingly, if not, why?

Where is this "more stuff than has been reported on"? Does that include more HD old stuff or other things?

[Marlamin]

Where is this "more stuff than has been reported on"? Does that include more HD old stuff or other things?

Yeah, stuff like that. Lots of textures and some smaller models that have still gone unused. Some have recently started being used by some of the models we've seen in 10.2 but others have gone unused since 10.0.0.

[micwini]

Yeah, stuff like that. Lots of textures and some smaller models that have still gone unused. Some have recently started being used by some of the models we've seen in 10.2 but others have gone unused since 10.0.0.

I wish we could see those.

[Cheezits]

Yeah, stuff like that. Lots of textures and some smaller models that have still gone unused. Some have recently started being used by some of the models we've seen in 10.2 but others have gone unused since 10.0.0.

How long has the hearthstone tavern been in the files now?

I'm guessing that there's some stuff in the files that is so obvious as to what 11.0 is that the datamining scene is politely refraining from publishing it, or Blizz has asked them nicely to.

[Fahrad Wagner]

At best there'll be some buildings/walkable places around in the crown, but another Darnassus is not gonna happen.

Blizzard designed the tree to have a giant open space beneath its roots for a reason.

This way it will be closer to the original artwork of Teldrassil.

How long has the hearthstone tavern been in the files now?

I'm guessing that there's some stuff in the files that is so obvious as to what 11.0 is that the datamining scene is politely refraining from publishing it, or Blizz has asked them nicely to.

Or maybe it's encrypted in a way it can't really be datamined the same as the other assets? I doubt all dataminers would keep their mouth shut about it

[Nymrohd]

Do you think if Amirdrassil becomes the capital of the nightelves, they will build on top of it like they did with Teldrassil? Or more likely around the roots of the tree?

How do you build on top of a tree? Teldrassil never made sense which is why it looked like it did. Amirdrassil is an HD version of Nordrassil (massive roots floating and a tree above. I could see them building a city BENEATH Amirdrassil though.

[Cheezits]

There is seemingly a domain of Life based off recent concept art talks for 10.2

The Primus straight up says as much in 9.2. And they seemingly have no interest in retconning Shadowlands because the Night Fae have an encampment in the Dream zone.

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How do you build on top of a tree? Teldrassil never made sense which is why it looked like it did. Amirdrassil is an HD version of Nordrassil (massive roots floating and a tree above. I could see them building a city BENEATH Amirdrassil though.

It would have to be instanced, but the branches go out to the sides and there is a big lush forest in the middle that the city can be built on.

[Fahrad Wagner]

How do you build on top of a tree? Teldrassil never made sense which is why it looked like it did. Amirdrassil is an HD version of Nordrassil (massive roots floating and a tree above. I could see them building a city BENEATH Amirdrassil though.

I agree, I'd prefer a city in the roots rather than a wonky arrangement at the top

[micwini]

I agree, I'd prefer a city in the roots rather than a wonky arrangement at the top

It would be cool if they had some stuff in the roots, but also circling along the stump and all the way to the top and on top as well. Like in that one picture, imagine a holein the trunk and when you come out on top, you're on topside of the tree

[Ersula]

The Primus straight up says as much in 9.2. And they seemingly have no interest in retconning Shadowlands because the Night Fae have an encampment in the Dream zone.

Keep in mind domain in this context doesn't mean a physical place. If you rule over the "domain of life," you rule over everything that is alive; that's what the domain of life is, not a specific lifeland.

[Raetary]

I agree, I'd prefer a city in the roots rather than a wonky arrangement at the top

I personally prefer Teldrassils concept.

A tree so big, with a crown so dense that it supports its own landscape and ecosystem is a very damn cool idea.
It's just very hard to translate that into the game.

And it also requires quite a bit more time and world building to work than what Teldrassil got.

Amirdrassil pulling a Nordrassil is vastly more managable, consistent and would look a lot better in-game than big ol' magic stumpy.

[Lolites]

Just briefly went inside, and definitely felt like Val'sharah.

i mean, it was LITERALLY said in valsharah that it is as close to emerald dream as it can in real world

[huth]

I personally prefer Teldrassils concept.

A tree so big, with a crown so dense that it supports its own landscape and ecosystem is a very damn cool idea.
It's just very hard to translate that into the game.

And it also requires quite a bit more time and world building to work than what Teldrassil got.

Amirdrassil pulling a Nordrassil is vastly more managable, consistent and would look a lot better in-game than big ol' magic stumpy.

IMO one of the main reasons they burned Teldrassil is because nowadays you can see just how crap the thing looks and there's no good way of fixing it without completely rebuilding. Amirdrassil they could actually make look like the concepts.

[Raetary]

IMO one of the main reasons they burned Teldrassil is because nowadays you can see just how crap the thing looks and there's no good way of fixing it without completely rebuilding. Amirdrassil they could actually make look like the concepts.

Likely.

But i feel like that's such a convoluted way to go about it instead of just... instancing the zone and replacing it in the world with a skybox like they did when it got burned.

[Ersula]

IMO one of the main reasons they burned Teldrassil is because nowadays you can see just how crap the thing looks and there's no good way of fixing it without completely rebuilding. Amirdrassil they could actually make look like the concepts.

You could say that about anything from classic though. Side note, they did a giant overhaul of the main cities in Everquest 15 years in and everyone hated it so much they never updated a zone ever again.

Considering recent comments from the higher-ups at Blizzard Teldrassil was burned because they needed an excuse to start a huge war & they thought it would be poetic to go from Night Elves sacrificing Nordrassil (at least the part that granted immortality) to save the world, to Night elves sacrificing themselves to create a new world tree. "It's like a poem. It rhymes"

[Marlamin]

How long has the hearthstone tavern been in the files now?

8.2.5.

Or maybe it's encrypted in a way it can't really be datamined the same as the other assets?

I'm guessing that there's some stuff in the files that is so obvious as to what 11.0 is that the datamining scene is politely refraining from publishing it

Both of these are true (although none if it makes it super obvious as to what 11.0 is, but the pre-order rewards are in and encrypted for what it's worth), the other part is that some of it requires good effort to find between all the encryption.

[Raetary]

They really gotta update the wisp model.

Aessina looks so out of place with her crusty, old polygon head look.

[Nymrohd]

They really gotta update the wisp model.

Aessina looks so out of place with her crusty, old polygon head look.

Even if they did, Aessina is scaled up so much that she'd still look bad. She'd need a custom model.

[Sondrelk]

It would be cool if they had some stuff in the roots, but also circling along the stump and all the way to the top and on top as well. Like in that one picture, imagine a holein the trunk and when you come out on top, you're on topside of the tree

Well currently there is a large area underneath similar to Shaladrassil, so I imagine that might be where a city will go eventually.

[Cheezits]

We still don't know what the hell Aessina is, we probably will never know.

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Both of these are true (although none if it makes it super obvious as to what 11.0 is, but the pre-order rewards are in and encrypted for what it's worth), the other part is that some of it requires good effort to find between all the encryption.

I think it may be that Green Magic Gryphon with datamined textures, it never made it into 10.2 and I don't know how it would fit into later patches.

Though if that has stuff already in, I am unsure if that would be the preorders.