The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...12183075164541

These are some really good looking tier sets. (more in the link above)


This one is supposed to be a bugged version without the crop top. That means the crop top is a separate part of it? Like the poster says though, I hope they make both available, with some fixes of course, like the creases under the breasts compared to the first "non-bugged" one.

Hmm, that's easily some of the best mail armor I've seen in a long time. I'd be interested to see what the male version looks like.

[Cheezits]

Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if 11.0 was the backside of Azeroth, and they had a plan to SLOWLY revamp stuff, such as Stormwind and Orgrimmar + Elwynn, to maybe other zones as well along the way.

If the Hearthstone Tavern has been in the files since BFA, they have clearly been working on a revamp for a while now.

[Nymrohd]

If the Hearthstone Tavern has been in the files since BFA, they have clearly been working on a revamp for a while now.

If they are planning to do a revamp, even if it is something as low level as a visual upgrade, it is still work that would take years to prepare while also doing everything else.

[Sondrelk]

If they are planning to do a revamp, even if it is something as low level as a visual upgrade, it is still work that would take years to prepare while also doing everything else.

They would have been working on it for years though. Remaking all the old NPC models, enviromental doodads, textures and skyboxes. If they alongside this have been making quests and fiddling with old zones then they could have had plenty of time to do this.

[Marlamin]

If the Hearthstone Tavern has been in the files since BFA, they have clearly been working on a revamp for a while now.

Granted, the tavern was for a scenario that apparently got scrapped and has gone unused since so we know its "intended use".

[Cheezits]

Granted, the tavern was for a scenario that apparently got scrapped and has gone unused since so we know its "intended use".

Besides the tavern, is there an older updated asset in the files that still hasn't been used?

I think there is an HD Night Elf dock/bridge with a round part in the middle, which wasn't used in Darkshore.

[Hitei]

Except it objectively does not. Legion had over a thousand more quests at this stage than Dragonflight does now..

Ah, I see. You're basing your opinion on wowhead searches, not realizing that wowhead doesn't actually accurately tally quests, especially during an expansion like Legion where world quests appear in multiple places, every classes' version of the same "use the artifact forge" or "pick a new weapon" quest are duplicated 12/36 times, or that another 70 are just trigger quests for which artifact you're using or keep track of what "raise weapon animation" to use and the like, several hundred quests are just treasure tracking and scenarios, because when Legion was made they used quests for literally anything.

You're welcome to go actually look at a list of proper quests and see that I'm correct though.

[Cheezits]

Achievement rewards that you can use in your new house?

I don't think they are intended for housing, but there are so many prop items (especially after Legion) added each expansion that would make for very simple furniture items.

[Marlamin]

Besides the tavern, is there an older updated asset in the files that still hasn't been used?

I think there is an HD Night Elf dock/bridge with a round part in the middle, which wasn't used in Darkshore.

This one? It is used in only the Horde phase of the Darkshore warfront, for some reason.

As for older updated assets that still haven't been used, I think there is a version of the Sentinel Hill tower added in BfA that hasn't been used yet.

[RahEndymion]

Ah, I see. You're basing your opinion on wowhead searches, not realizing that wowhead doesn't actually accurately tally quests, especially during an expansion like Legion where world quests appear in multiple places, every classes' version of the same "use the artifact forge" or "pick a new weapon" quest are duplicated 12/36 times, or that another 70 are just trigger quests for which artifact you're using or keep track of what "raise weapon animation" to use and the like, several hundred quests are just treasure tracking and scenarios, because when Legion was made they used quests for literally anything.

You're welcome to go actually look at a list of proper quests and see that I'm correct though.

Ah, I see. You're basing your opinion on literal claims and nothing more while casting aspersions based on supposed objective reasoning.

I'm not trying to derail the thread again. You've come back with a bunch of broken links and some hand waving. You seem to forget the weekly/daily variants of quests, the follower quests from renown, the various cosmetic quests, pickup item/rep item quests, profession quests and a whole host of currency related quests still appear within Dragonflight.

Please, feel free to provide any form of evidence to refute the actual numbers I have given you. Or, better yet, just stop. You've made a fool of yourself enough as it is.

[Xilurm]

Hmm, that's easily some of the best mail armor I've seen in a long time. I'd be interested to see what the male version looks like.

I really wouldn't except any big differences between male and female versions anymore.

[Sondrelk]

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This one? It is used in only the Horde phase of the Darkshore warfront, for some reason.

As for older updated assets that still haven't been used, I think there is a version of the Sentinel Hill tower added in BfA that hasn't been used yet.

I believe it's used in the Alliance uninstanced, and Horde instanced. Just to show that the old dock has been repaired to some extent in the Alliance controlled version.

Doesnt do anything though, I certainly don't remember any world quests using the area either as Alliance, besides as a backdrop Forsaken flying in over it.

[Cheezits]

This one? It is used in only the Horde phase of the Darkshore warfront, for some reason.

As for older updated assets that still haven't been used, I think there is a version of the Sentinel Hill tower added in BfA that hasn't been used yet.

Interesting. That reminds me they redid the whole Night Elf inn model, but just used it as a prop in the ruins.

And the tower is very suspicious. Hopefully Ion's comments mean this is all for a revamp and NOT "lol new settlements on Avaloren"

[Sondrelk]

Ah, I see. You're basing your opinion on literal claims and nothing more while casting aspersions based on supposed objective reasoning.

I'm not trying to derail the thread again. You've come back with a bunch of broken links and some hand waving. You seem to forget the weekly/daily variants of quests, the follower quests from renown, the various cosmetic quests, pickup item/rep item quests, profession quests and a whole host of currency related quests still appear within Dragonflight.

Please, feel free to provide any form of evidence to refute the actual numbers I have given you. Or, better yet, just stop. You've made a fool of yourself enough as it is.

That still doesnt avoid the fact that 7.0 had the aforementioned 12/36 variants of the exact same quest. "Go to Mission Table and do X mission Y times", "Go to the Artifact Table and inspect [Artifact]". Each order hall had about 6-7 quests that all did the same thing. "Talk to recruiter for [mission table fodder v.1] "Talk to recruiter for [mission table fodder v.2], "Talk to lore person to access lore tablets".

Legion was packed with quests like these because of the focus on individual classes.

[Cheezits]

Apparently Thrall is in the files for 10.2 but I haven't seen him yet. Maybe they really are hiding the Earthen Ring until after Blizzcon?

If it's a revamp/Cata 2 then it would make sense why they held back on them in DF.

[Well Done Steak]

Looks like I missed a lot...

Vyranoth might be the 6,the aspect post raid???

Also all this talk about Elune being the one who truly empowered the aspects makes sense if you go back to the Oracle in zereth mortis.

If you guys remember the vision where the Oracle spoke in different languages.

All of them were "cosmic" languages, except draconic.

But what if draconic is the language of life???

Then again, how can Elune be Involved, outside of the embrace, if the dragons were clearly empowered via the Titans using the keepers as conduits?

[Hitei]

Ah, I see. You're basing your opinion on literal claims and nothing more while casting aspersions based on supposed objective reasoning.

I'm not trying to derail the thread again. You've come back with a bunch of broken links and some hand waving. You seem to forget the weekly/daily variants of quests, the follower quests from renown, the various cosmetic quests, pickup item/rep item quests, profession quests and a whole host of currency related quests still appear within Dragonflight.

Please, feel free to provide any form of evidence to refute the actual numbers I have given you. Or, better yet, just stop. You've made a fool of yourself enough as it is.

No, I just left them out because an even higher percentage of quests in Legion are WQ versions of existing quests. I assumed you didn't want to go down the route of how much of those (lol) "thousand extra quests!!!" were just WQ variants, profession dailies, currency turn ins, etc. because it weakened your already wrong point even further. So instead I pointed out to you that there are hundreds of just outright trigger flags, treasure flags and duplicated quests all over the """actual numbers""" you're appealing to.

[Telogrus]

Turbulent Timeways ends on Oct 31st, so that should also be the release date for 10.2 right?

[Sondrelk]

Turbulent Timeways ends on Oct 31st, so that should also be the release date for 10.2 right?

Probably. Though the devs could just increase the length of Turbulent Timeways if they need more time to release 10.2, so don't take the end of the event as gospel.

[Cheezits]

https://x.com/portergauge/status/170...795261129?s=46

So Amirdrassil "represents a rebirth of Azeroth itself"....