The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Worldshaper]

A company not expending resources when it can make do with what it has seems strange to you? Plus I am seeing a decent amount of new models.

Resources spent = increased quality = more MAUs. You don't think it's strange that they aren't investing more heavily in the expansion's final tier, the big Emerald Dream patch fans have been waiting requesting for years? It's a great chance to bring players back, and to retain current Dragonflight players.

Not that it has to have all-new assets, it's just an odd step away from the norm. 6.2 re-used a zone for its final patch, but Legion, BfA, and Shadowlands all brought something new.

Anyway, my point is that I think it might lend a little bit of extra credence to the revamp theory. Re-using assets in this patch so they can spend those resources on 11.0's assets instead. It might not have felt like a worthwhile investment to make new assets in a revamp that doesn't really feature otherwordly zones.

On a slight tangent, I also find it pretty interesting that there seems to be a clear difference between Kalimdor / Night Elven assets, and Emerald Dream / Night Elven assets. Night Elves are supposed to be magical and fae-like because of their connection to the Dream, right? So why does Ashenvale look more mystical than the Emerald Dream? I'm thinking of the assets introduced in the remade WSG, back in BfA.

The Dream, I think it's safe to say at this point, has a much more toned down look. More realistic colours. Just like Val'sharah. Sure there are some swirlies and a few rays of moonlight scattered about the place. But it looks much more like a regular forest than Ashenvale does. Ashenvale feels more similar to Ardenweald.

Is this just a historical glitch caused by the fact that 10.2 uses Val'sharah assets, made before they updated classic Ashenvale assets in BfA? Or does this say something? Is northern Kalimdor and its forests even more enchanted than the Emerald Dream, and if so, why?

Has Elune had a bigger impact on Kalimdor? Was the Dream so altered by the Titans that much of its original magic got lost (or vice versa with Kalimdor)?

Is northern Kalimdor more or less reflective of Ancient Azeroth than the Emerald Dream?

Great Tree portals scattered around vanilla zones obviously use Teldrassil and Ashenvale asses, but that might just be because they were designed in Vanilla, before Val'sharah was a thing. Or is it because the Great Trees are more of a Night Elf thing, and not directly from the Emerald Dream?

Is Ashenvale influenced more by the Winter Queen than Elune? So many questions.

[Nymrohd]

Eh, I think they just made sure there are cantrip weapons for every class.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I wonder if there will be more sets like the Lo'Gosh and sylvanas added to future ptr patches - if not then i think they might be blizzcon virtual ticket rewards.

[Nymrohd]

Btw if this is the final raid tier for Dragonflight it means DF will have only 26 raid encounters. WoD had 30. Cata had 27 (28 counting Sinestra).

[Sondrelk]

I wonder if there will be more sets like the Lo'Gosh and sylvanas added to future ptr patches - if not then i think they might be blizzcon virtual ticket rewards.

Someone did mention the possibility that they are Trading Post rewards, and that we will be seeing something similar for most NPCs.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Someone did mention the possibility that they are Trading Post rewards, and that we will be seeing something similar for most NPCs.

I think it's about time - ESO, GW2 and FFXIV all have NPC/knownchars sets available for players in some way, it's time for WoW to open up in that department aswell.

[Yarathir]

Someone did mention the possibility that they are Trading Post rewards, and that we will be seeing something similar for most NPCs.

I'm gonna assume the store.

Or maybe a store first, trading post later thing.

[Shadowferal]

Resources spent = increased quality = more MAUs. You don't think it's strange that they aren't investing more heavily in the expansion's final tier, the big Emerald Dream patch fans have been waiting requesting for years? It's a great chance to bring players back, and to retain current Dragonflight players.

When has Blizz shown any interest in bringing players back, beyond those that cancel the month or two awaiting for new skins in some later patch?

And it's also time to introduce housing!

To repeat the response that's said for the past 10 years or so, "good luck with that!"

[Nymrohd]

Btw is this Ebyssian?
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...2ModelsMisc:54

[Yarathir]

Btw is this Ebyssian?
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...2ModelsMisc:54

yes, that is ebyssian

[Nymrohd]

yes, that is ebyssian

I guess the nose ring kind of confirms it. Love the Fire effect on the wings and horns. I am guessing 10.2 conclusion will have them all be elevated to Aspects.

[Worldshaper]

Here's another thing that just dawned on me.

Losing Teldrassil but gaining Amirdrassil as a replacement felt like an OK deal, because we assumed a new World Tree based in the Emerald Dream would look a bit the same, but with modern graphics.

But now that we've seen them in-game, I really feel like it's a downgrade. Teldrassil, while dated, felt mystical, enchanting, and most of all night-themed.

10.2 doesn't look or feel anything like that. It's a completely different experience for Night Elves.

[Santandame]

Here's another thing that just dawned on me.

Losing Teldrassil but gaining Amirdrassil as a replacement felt like an OK deal, because we assumed a new World Tree based in the Emerald Dream would look a bit the same, but with modern graphics.

But now that we've seen them in-game, I really feel like it's a downgrade. Teldrassil, while dated, felt mystical, enchanting, and most of all night-themed.

10.2 doesn't look or feel anything like that. It's a completely different experience for Night Elves.

I imagine it’s not going to be the Night Elf capital and instead it’ll just be a generic Cenarion Circle/Green Dragonflight/Druid location.

If world revamp is 11.0, then I’m pretty sure the Night Elves will populate Hyjal or Ashenvale as their main home zone. With either Nordrassil or Astranaar being expanded and built upon to be the capital city.

[Worldshaper]

I imagine it’s not going to be the Night Elf capital and instead it’ll just be a generic scenarion Circle/Green Dragonflight/Druid location.

If world revamp is 11.0, then I’m pretty sure the Night Elves will populate Hyjal or Ashenvale as their main home zone. With either Nordrassil or Astranaar being expanded and built upon to be the capital city.

I would assume so as well. But didn't Tyrande call it their new home a while back?

[Reive]

Here's another thing that just dawned on me.

Losing Teldrassil but gaining Amirdrassil as a replacement felt like an OK deal, because we assumed a new World Tree based in the Emerald Dream would look a bit the same, but with modern graphics.

But now that we've seen them in-game, I really feel like it's a downgrade. Teldrassil, while dated, felt mystical, enchanting, and most of all night-themed.

10.2 doesn't look or feel anything like that. It's a completely different experience for Night Elves.

I imagine it’s not going to be the Night Elf capital and instead it’ll just be a generic scenarion Circle/Green Dragonflight/Druid location.

If world revamp is 11.0, then I’m pretty sure the Night Elves will populate Hyjal or Ashenvale as their main home zone. With either Nordrassil or Astranaar being expanded and built upon to be the capital city.

the tree is not fully grown yet.

[Myrrh]

Here's another thing that just dawned on me.

Losing Teldrassil but gaining Amirdrassil as a replacement felt like an OK deal, because we assumed a new World Tree based in the Emerald Dream would look a bit the same, but with modern graphics.

But now that we've seen them in-game, I really feel like it's a downgrade. Teldrassil, while dated, felt mystical, enchanting, and most of all night-themed.

10.2 doesn't look or feel anything like that. It's a completely different experience for Night Elves.

While I get you, I think in part that is the scale of it. I've seen it pointed out that what is visible on the PTR clearly shows new shoots - it's still very young but obviously growing fast. Presumably by the time it is big enough for its branches to host its own zone (and age a bit so they get that wood look to them, some of that mysticism will return.

[Santandame]

Btw if this is the final raid tier for Dragonflight it means DF will have only 26 raid encounters. WoD had 30. Cata had 27 (28 counting Sinestra).

Which hopefully means less emphasis on raids as the be all end all with more development added towards increasing more dungeons as well as world content.

[Sondrelk]

And it's also time to introduce housing!

Housing is a natural fit for a world revamp, so there is that. And Ion did say in an interview that they were looking for the right time to start player housing.

[Shadowferal]

10.2 doesn't look or feel anything like that. It's a completely different experience for Night Elves.

And no addressing the reason why it's needed...

[Worldshaper]

I don't know...

Part of me hopes Fyrakk gets what he wants and claims the tree. Then in the revamp we just get an enhanced version of Mount Hyjal instead.