1. #16441
    Do you think if Amirdrassil becomes the capital of the nightelves, they will build on top of it like they did with Teldrassil? Or more likely around the roots of the tree?

  2. #16442
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    It's strange to me why people want so much new tree taken out of blue. In revamped world I would prefer Hyjal as start and capital for Nelfs. That's even more iconic than Teldrassil.
    That's interesting because I always imagine the canonical Azeroth to be more urban than it seems in classic, at least it should be at this point in the timeline. Hyjal should at least have more of the buildings we see in Valsharah, as well as I hope a revamp will show a more urban Elwynn & eastern steppes (replacing that mountainous area north of stormwind with their canonical residential area.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Goblins have Shamans, Orcs have Shamans, and Belves are in fact elves. All of them have a preexisting link to a nature themed class like Druid, even if noone we have seen of those races so far have been a druid. Just like how Dwarves don't have any druids, but we still accept that it would make sense given Wildhammer dwarves are a thing.
    The "druids for all" seeds are being planted, if you'll forgive the pun. It feels like a natural progression for Paladins & Druids to be options for all (non hero class) races before 11.0

    https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...34213449613331

    There are a bunch of children projecting themselves into the Emerald Dream. (I've seen Pandarian & Human) and they explain it as small children being able to do this innately. This upturns the paradigm that you needed the blessing of a Wildgod in order to access the Dream and therefor be a real druid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    That's interesting because I always imagine the canonical Azeroth to be more urban than it seems in classic, at least it should be at this point in the timeline. Hyjal should at least have more of the buildings we see in Valsharah, as well as I hope a revamp will show a more urban Elwynn & eastern steppes (replacing that mountainous area north of stormwind with their canonical residential area.)
    That's why I would prefer spliting EK/Kalimdor revamp at least over 2-3 expansions, so each zone would have size and level of detail from Dragon Isles. Also capitals would be more fleshed out this way cause they would serve as main hubs.

  4. #16444
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Do you think if Amirdrassil becomes the capital of the nightelves, they will build on top of it like they did with Teldrassil? Or more likely around the roots of the tree?
    I think the top of the tree, because they are making a big deal of it not being fully grown yet. If it's just like Hyjal with settlements underneath, why does it matter how big it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    That's interesting because I always imagine the canonical Azeroth to be more urban than it seems in classic, at least it should be at this point in the timeline. Hyjal should at least have more of the buildings we see in Valsharah, as well as I hope a revamp will show a more urban Elwynn & eastern steppes (replacing that mountainous area north of stormwind with their canonical residential area.)The "druids for all" seeds are being planted, if you'll forgive the pun. It feels like a natural progression for Paladins & Druids to be options for all (non hero class) races before 11.0

    https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...34213449613331

    There are a bunch of children projecting themselves into the Emerald Dream. (I've seen Pandarian & Human) and they explain it as small children being able to do this innately. This upturns the paradigm that you needed the blessing of a Wildgod in order to access the Dream and therefor be a real druid.
    It sound be mentioned however that the child in question is Pandaren, an animal race heavily connected to wild gods. And the other person is an Troll, also connected heavily to wild gods.

    The lore can expand to other races but it felt a lot like a Pandaren Druid tease to me more than anything else. If it was an explicitly not druidic race like a Goblin I would think it's druids for all.

  5. #16445
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    How is it not true? Did you play 7.2?
    The only thing Legion had a lot of was different class campaigns, and most of those have been grossly overstated in how in-depth they were.

    DF will have two full new zones and a revamped one that didnt do anything at launch. You would have to somehow argue that Argus' three small zones are somehow actually outstripping Dragonflight and it's two full large zones to have the same amount of area added.
    5 raids with lore attached to it
    Suramar which has longer quest story than whole of 10.1 alone.
    And Suramar was added in 7.0.

    This comes from someone who doesnt like Legion as much as others do.


    Creating empty zones with oversized stuff to compensaye the emptiness is not QUALITY. Its QUANTITY.

    And thats what Zaralek is.
    It has couple of time consuming events/rep grind/daily quest. And thats it.
    Lore is...... not well received by many. Sadly.

  6. #16446
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Do you think if Amirdrassil becomes the capital of the nightelves, they will build on top of it like they did with Teldrassil? Or more likely around the roots of the tree?
    I don’t think it will be the capital. I imagine it just to be the new base of operations for the Cenarion Circle and the Green Dragonflight.

    If world revamp is next, then I think the main Night elf zone will be either Hyjal or Ashenvale. With Nordrassil or Astranaar being built upon and expanded into becoming capitals.

    This would switch things up for the levelling/zone progression in Northern Kalimdor. If you start in Ashenvale or Hyjal, we can move into Felwood next as it’s partially cleansed and we double the efforts to cleanse it and repopulate the zone. Then onto Winterspring for something a little more light hearted, before moving into Darkshore and the remains of Teldrassil for the “endgame” of the Northern Kalimdor story.

  7. #16447
    There is a Nelf NPC who says that Amirdrassil is to be their home. I wonder if they won't show it until Blizzcon to show what's going on with Nelves on Kalimdor at the same time.

    The heritage quest shows they aren't abandoning it entirely.

    I honestly wonder if the idea is just that their plans for Kalimdor can't physically handle a giant tree model? Or two of them, if they upgrade Hyjal.
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  8. #16448
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Unless Amirdrassil is the main hub for an Avaloren expansion (it is on the edge of the map) then it also implies a revamp because otherwise it is immediately irrelevant.

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    I can see it, but I can also see her being involved in some final plot to poison the waters of Tyrhold similar to how Galakrond was created.

    I would prefer we get lots of Gnolls in a revamp or to have her make the Mongrel Horde that is stacking different areas.
    I’d be all for Mongrel Horde and it could be the main focus of the central Kalimdor zones story. Desolace, Feralas, Thousand Needles, Stonetalon and parts of the Barrens are all places with a high concentration of Gnolls, Centaur, Quilboar and Harpies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Do you think if Amirdrassil becomes the capital of the nightelves, they will build on top of it like they did with Teldrassil? Or more likely around the roots of the tree?
    At best there'll be some buildings/walkable places around in the crown, but another Darnassus is not gonna happen.

    Blizzard designed the tree to have a giant open space beneath its roots for a reason.


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  10. #16450
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    At best there'll be some buildings/walkable places around in the crown, but another Darnassus is not gonna happen.

    Blizzard designed the tree to have a giant open space beneath its roots for a reason.
    It's not really that big of a space to fit a town, let alone a city.

  11. #16451
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Oh, definitely. There's much more stuff than has been reported on as well so far, even going back as far as 10.0.0. It'll be a lot of fun to see how many of those predicted dots actually end up connecting, and more interestingly, if not, why?
    Where is this "more stuff than has been reported on"? Does that include more HD old stuff or other things?
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  12. #16452
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    Where is this "more stuff than has been reported on"? Does that include more HD old stuff or other things?
    Yeah, stuff like that. Lots of textures and some smaller models that have still gone unused. Some have recently started being used by some of the models we've seen in 10.2 but others have gone unused since 10.0.0.

  13. #16453
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Yeah, stuff like that. Lots of textures and some smaller models that have still gone unused. Some have recently started being used by some of the models we've seen in 10.2 but others have gone unused since 10.0.0.
    I wish we could see those.
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  14. #16454
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Yeah, stuff like that. Lots of textures and some smaller models that have still gone unused. Some have recently started being used by some of the models we've seen in 10.2 but others have gone unused since 10.0.0.
    How long has the hearthstone tavern been in the files now?

    I'm guessing that there's some stuff in the files that is so obvious as to what 11.0 is that the datamining scene is politely refraining from publishing it, or Blizz has asked them nicely to.

  15. #16455
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    At best there'll be some buildings/walkable places around in the crown, but another Darnassus is not gonna happen.

    Blizzard designed the tree to have a giant open space beneath its roots for a reason.
    This way it will be closer to the original artwork of Teldrassil.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    How long has the hearthstone tavern been in the files now?

    I'm guessing that there's some stuff in the files that is so obvious as to what 11.0 is that the datamining scene is politely refraining from publishing it, or Blizz has asked them nicely to.
    Or maybe it's encrypted in a way it can't really be datamined the same as the other assets? I doubt all dataminers would keep their mouth shut about it

  16. #16456
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Do you think if Amirdrassil becomes the capital of the nightelves, they will build on top of it like they did with Teldrassil? Or more likely around the roots of the tree?
    How do you build on top of a tree? Teldrassil never made sense which is why it looked like it did. Amirdrassil is an HD version of Nordrassil (massive roots floating and a tree above. I could see them building a city BENEATH Amirdrassil though.

  17. #16457
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    There is seemingly a domain of Life based off recent concept art talks for 10.2
    The Primus straight up says as much in 9.2. And they seemingly have no interest in retconning Shadowlands because the Night Fae have an encampment in the Dream zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    How do you build on top of a tree? Teldrassil never made sense which is why it looked like it did. Amirdrassil is an HD version of Nordrassil (massive roots floating and a tree above. I could see them building a city BENEATH Amirdrassil though.
    It would have to be instanced, but the branches go out to the sides and there is a big lush forest in the middle that the city can be built on.

  18. #16458
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    How do you build on top of a tree? Teldrassil never made sense which is why it looked like it did. Amirdrassil is an HD version of Nordrassil (massive roots floating and a tree above. I could see them building a city BENEATH Amirdrassil though.
    I agree, I'd prefer a city in the roots rather than a wonky arrangement at the top

  19. #16459
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    I agree, I'd prefer a city in the roots rather than a wonky arrangement at the top
    It would be cool if they had some stuff in the roots, but also circling along the stump and all the way to the top and on top as well. Like in that one picture, imagine a holein the trunk and when you come out on top, you're on topside of the tree
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  20. #16460
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    The Primus straight up says as much in 9.2. And they seemingly have no interest in retconning Shadowlands because the Night Fae have an encampment in the Dream zone.
    Keep in mind domain in this context doesn't mean a physical place. If you rule over the "domain of life," you rule over everything that is alive; that's what the domain of life is, not a specific lifeland.

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