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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    I agree, I'd prefer a city in the roots rather than a wonky arrangement at the top
    I personally prefer Teldrassils concept.

    A tree so big, with a crown so dense that it supports its own landscape and ecosystem is a very damn cool idea.
    It's just very hard to translate that into the game.

    And it also requires quite a bit more time and world building to work than what Teldrassil got.

    Amirdrassil pulling a Nordrassil is vastly more managable, consistent and would look a lot better in-game than big ol' magic stumpy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Just briefly went inside, and definitely felt like Val'sharah.
    i mean, it was LITERALLY said in valsharah that it is as close to emerald dream as it can in real world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I personally prefer Teldrassils concept.

    A tree so big, with a crown so dense that it supports its own landscape and ecosystem is a very damn cool idea.
    It's just very hard to translate that into the game.

    And it also requires quite a bit more time and world building to work than what Teldrassil got.

    Amirdrassil pulling a Nordrassil is vastly more managable, consistent and would look a lot better in-game than big ol' magic stumpy.
    IMO one of the main reasons they burned Teldrassil is because nowadays you can see just how crap the thing looks and there's no good way of fixing it without completely rebuilding. Amirdrassil they could actually make look like the concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    IMO one of the main reasons they burned Teldrassil is because nowadays you can see just how crap the thing looks and there's no good way of fixing it without completely rebuilding. Amirdrassil they could actually make look like the concepts.
    Likely.

    But i feel like that's such a convoluted way to go about it instead of just... instancing the zone and replacing it in the world with a skybox like they did when it got burned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    IMO one of the main reasons they burned Teldrassil is because nowadays you can see just how crap the thing looks and there's no good way of fixing it without completely rebuilding. Amirdrassil they could actually make look like the concepts.
    You could say that about anything from classic though. Side note, they did a giant overhaul of the main cities in Everquest 15 years in and everyone hated it so much they never updated a zone ever again.

    Considering recent comments from the higher-ups at Blizzard Teldrassil was burned because they needed an excuse to start a huge war & they thought it would be poetic to go from Night Elves sacrificing Nordrassil (at least the part that granted immortality) to save the world, to Night elves sacrificing themselves to create a new world tree. "It's like a poem. It rhymes"

  6. #16466
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    How long has the hearthstone tavern been in the files now?
    8.2.5.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Or maybe it's encrypted in a way it can't really be datamined the same as the other assets?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I'm guessing that there's some stuff in the files that is so obvious as to what 11.0 is that the datamining scene is politely refraining from publishing it
    Both of these are true (although none if it makes it super obvious as to what 11.0 is, but the pre-order rewards are in and encrypted for what it's worth), the other part is that some of it requires good effort to find between all the encryption.
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    They really gotta update the wisp model.

    Aessina looks so out of place with her crusty, old polygon head look.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    They really gotta update the wisp model.

    Aessina looks so out of place with her crusty, old polygon head look.
    Even if they did, Aessina is scaled up so much that she'd still look bad. She'd need a custom model.

  9. #16469
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    It would be cool if they had some stuff in the roots, but also circling along the stump and all the way to the top and on top as well. Like in that one picture, imagine a holein the trunk and when you come out on top, you're on topside of the tree
    Well currently there is a large area underneath similar to Shaladrassil, so I imagine that might be where a city will go eventually.
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    We still don't know what the hell Aessina is, we probably will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Both of these are true (although none if it makes it super obvious as to what 11.0 is, but the pre-order rewards are in and encrypted for what it's worth), the other part is that some of it requires good effort to find between all the encryption.
    I think it may be that Green Magic Gryphon with datamined textures, it never made it into 10.2 and I don't know how it would fit into later patches.

    Though if that has stuff already in, I am unsure if that would be the preorders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    We still don't know what the hell Aessina is, we probably will never know.

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    I think it may be that Green Magic Gryphon with datamined textures, it never made it into 10.2 and I don't know how it would fit into later patches.

    Though if that has stuff already in, I am unsure if that would be the preorders.
    A world revamp would definitely fit with a gryphon as a special edition mount. Really harken back to the classic image of a dwarf on a gryphon.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    A world revamp would definitely fit with a gryphon as a special edition mount. Really harken back to the classic image of a dwarf on a gryphon.
    Yeah, and I was about to argue that its a special looking gryphon, but they wouldn't lock an entire normal gryphon behind the collectors edition.

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    Oh no, she has returned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Oh no, she has returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You could say that about anything from classic though. Side note, they did a giant overhaul of the main cities in Everquest 15 years in and everyone hated it so much they never updated a zone ever again.
    That's the exact point i'm making. With Cataclysm, they still took pains to keep everything recongnisable. Teldrassil would require changes well beyond that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
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    I know and that's fine.

    It's Moonberry that terrifies me.


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    Shadowlands lore in df. All is lost
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    Im almost certain it was mentioned somewhere they can't leave their respective realms. This makes 0 sense
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    Dream is connected to Ardenweald. Maldraxxus people leave all the time through portals and keystones (Kel, Aggra)

    Less of a "they can't" and more of a "they don't because game"

    Speaking of: huge post-raid spoiler! (If it isn't obvious what happens post-raid)

    https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...76411562745939
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  20. #16480
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    It's been there since pre-patch. The whole thing in 10.2 requires SL to exist.
    I don't mind the shadowlands lore and even I'm confused. Why can people of Ardenweald move freely between there & the Emerald Dream? Shouldn't they be dream projections like everyone else who is bound to some other plane? I get Necrolords & Kyrians can leave because that's part of their job. But Winter Queen's minions being able to do it is so bizarre because of how completely oblivious they were to what goes on in the world of the living; moreso than the other afterlives.
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