The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lazarel]

Very nice, your stuff is always top notch (though didn't you already use that one once?).

I changed it a little bit here and there from the last one

[Luck4]

The R is different. Unless this has something to do with Classic.

And... the Case is closed.

Geez, this one was fast. LMAO

[Cheezits]

The broken being in the Eradar unlock quest and the fel green Space Goat racial really got me thinking about the random question they added in the FAQ for 10.2. I wonder if Allied Races will be coming back in a big way. I could see them reordering some to be a sort of sub species and adding the Broken in the near future. Like, you create a dwarf then go one to pick if it's Wildhammer, Dark Iron, or Ironforge flavors like how it works for DnD.

Which one?

[Seasz]

how many times do we have to go through this?

[Hitei]

how many times do we have to go through this?

It was very obviously a joke.

[Santandame]

If we meet the Pantheon of Chaos, then we need to explore more of the Nether BEYOND the Legion worlds we're used to.

Why?

We already have pre-established worlds that are rooted in chaos and fel. No need to piss the player base off by introducing a brand new planet when we already have several to use. The pantheon of chaos can reside in their own little chaotic dimension that we’d no doubt visit in patch/raid content.

[Marlamin]

And... the Case is closed.

Geez, this one was fast. LMAO

I genuinely remember their name from last time. Genuinely good fake leaks/10.

[Luck4]

Just for reference...

Q: How many "Awakening" logos?
A: Too many...

[Houle]

Fine.

One more update before bed.

Niiiiice
Definitely needs the alleged cinematic pic leak in it tho

[Santandame]

Yeah Blizzards aversion to just outright doing subraces is one I don’t understand.

I don’t see why we can’t have our normal character creation screen then say underneath Dwarves you have the option to select Bronzebeard, Wildhammer, Dark Irons and Frostborn and then you spawn in say Aerie Peak if you choose Wildhammer with just the one quest saying “Our Bronzebeard allies need help, answer the call” with a gryphon sending you directly to Dun Morogh - granted if you aren’t doing the new standard intro for new characters.

[Cheezits]

Yeah Blizzards aversion to just outright doing subraces is one I don’t understand.

I don’t see why we can’t have our normal character creation screen then say underneath Dwarves you have the option to select Bronzebeard, Wildhammer, Dark Irons and Frostborn and then you spawn in say Aerie Peak if you choose Wildhammer with just the one quest saying “Our Bronzebeard allies need help, answer the call” with a gryphon sending you directly to Dun Morogh - granted if you aren’t doing the new standard intro for new characters.

Because they don't think enough people care to bother putting dev time in, and they are probably right.

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BTW, saw this leak on youtube, might be interesting to some people here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKHIY2DXynk

[Luck4]

BTW, saw this leak on youtube, might be interesting to some people here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKHIY2DXynk

Wrath of the Bolvar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shadowlands

[Xilurm]

I'd like if the expansion name isn't one word again.

[Auxis]

Why?

We already have pre-established worlds that are rooted in chaos and fel. No need to piss the player base off by introducing a brand new planet when we already have several to use. The pantheon of chaos can reside in their own little chaotic dimension that we’d no doubt visit in patch/raid content.

Yes, because wasting the entire potential of a mysterious world on a single raid/patch has gone down SO well in the past (*cough* Emerald Dream/Argus *cough*).

Disorder has the potential to be like Hellfire Penninsula, Netherstorm, and SMV but on WHOLE 'nother level, but by all means just use it for A patch.

[Teriz]

Remember when you said others were twisting things to fit their ideas...

Where’s the twisting? Thrall is a shaman and deeply involved with the elements. The Mag’har would be the main targets of the Lightbound, since they know better than anyone what level of threat they pose. Thrall will want to protect the Mag’har from the Lightbound, and the elements of Azeroth make a good opposing force to an alien invasion.

[huth]

Yes, because wasting the entire potential of a mysterious world on a single raid/patch has gone down SO well in the past (*cough* Emerald Dream/Argus *cough*).

Disorder has the potential to be like Hellfire Penninsula, Netherstorm, and SMV but on WHOLE 'nother level, but by all means just use it for A patch.

An entire expansion of nothing but burned wastes? No, thanks.

[Hitei]

Where’s the twisting? Thrall is a shaman and deeply involved with the elements. The Mag’har would be the main targets of the Lightbound, since they know better than anyone what level of threat they pose. Thrall will want to protect the Mag’har from the Lightbound, and the elements of Azeroth make a good opposing force to an alien invasion.

Why would the Lightbound's main target be like 15 random orc refugees of zero note or influence, who have absolutely no ability to contest the Lightbound and whose only experience with them is getting chased off. I doubt Yrel even remembers they exist and if the Lightbound are invading Azeroth, they sure as shit aren't gonna be worried about a handful of regular orcs they've already defeated an entire continent of.

You might as well pretend Azshara is coming back specifically to finish off the Ankoan, or that Deathwing's primary concern was the handful of Bilgewater survivors that escaped Kezan.

[Polybius]

Spoilers for the secret event ending, mildly suspicious to see all those things mingled.

Also this dialogue suggests they were working for the Incarnates. Hmm!

More bonus dialog:

Preservationist Kathos
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https://marlamin.com/u/FoGMh03dEl.png
https://marlamin.com/u/Wow_fXEML7GLT6.png
https://marlamin.com/u/Wow_EXhvkEsthQ.png

Bobby
https://marlamin.com/u/Wow_Cf4LxS1dRH.png
https://marlamin.com/u/Wow_lx4nHOHCen.png
https://marlamin.com/u/Wow_ntjnr5hsA8.png
https://marlamin.com/u/Hp4mkjpDiB.png
https://marlamin.com/u/Wow_bqQQtx1Lek.png

About the artifact, it sounds like the one confiscated from the Black Empire by Hooktail in Tazavesh. If I recall it was a relic of the First Ones.

Off topic Tinfoil hat: I know their lore has bad reception, but they're likely going to be retconned as alien beings that came before the Titans - space shamans who played around with cosmic forces around them. They probably tried to skip the World Soul process and supervolved into Gods/Titans only for it to backfire. Not very different from the Eldan from Wildstar who mysteriously disappeared after creating Drusera/The Entity. They too, like the Titans, had predecessors above them.

[Santandame]

Yes, because wasting the entire potential of a mysterious world on a single raid/patch has gone down SO well in the past (*cough* Emerald Dream/Argus *cough*).

Disorder has the potential to be like Hellfire Penninsula, Netherstorm, and SMV but on WHOLE 'nother level, but by all means just use it for A patch.

Emerald Dream/Argus were pre-established, iconic Warcraft locations in lore. That’s a pretty inept comparison.

We don’t even have a name for the realm of Disorder. If we’re doing another Burning Legion themed expansion and you set it on some random chaos aligned planet no one’s ever heard of instead of somewhere like Narhreza that’s a pretty important lore location then that’s just Blizzard missing the mark completely.

Also as @huth said, no one wants an expansion of dead zones based on nothing but wastes and fel. Nathreza is said to have lots of cities of different variety and was the home of the Legion’s arcane power. You can also bet it would have a lot of Venthyr/Revendreth inspiration too. It’s a fitting setting for a Chaos expansion in plenty of ways.

[Teriz]

Why would the Lightbound's main target be like 15 random orc refugees of zero note or influence, who have absolutely no ability to contest the Lightbound and whose only experience with them is getting chased off. I doubt Yrel even remembers they exist and if the Lightbound are invading Azeroth, they sure as shit aren't gonna be worried about a handful of regular orcs they've already defeated an entire continent of.

Except that the Mag'har are now aligned with the Horde and are intertwined into Thrall's family, so yes they do have influence. Further, Yrel's goals are always conversion first and conquest second. It's not difficult to see Yrel viewing the Mag'har as the ones that got away and will likely seek to convert them first and foremost and then move to convert the rest of Azeroth immediately afterward. And like I said in my original post, it is the Mag'har that know the Lightbound better than any other race on Azeroth, which also makes them a prime target.

You might as well pretend Azshara is coming back specifically to finish off the Ankoan, or that Deathwing's primary concern was the handful of Bilgewater survivors that escaped Kezan.

Yrel is not that type of villain.