The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ChairmanKaga]

Its a dwarven steam tank you can find them on the stormwind docks currently and in some dwarf zones, the old ones have always been in game but never really used other then as static props.

from the colors this one seems to be made by the dark irons.

I guess I meant is there some speculation stemming from this.

[Mecheon]

Its a dwarven steam tank you can find them on the stormwind docks currently and in some dwarf zones, the old ones have always been in game but never really used other then as static props.

from the colors this one seems to be made by the dark irons.

The original of these Dark Iron ones was added in WoD but was in a pretty busted up state. They show up a few other times in the Dark Iron quests lately as well

[Woggmer]

If they are planning to do a revamp, even if it is something as low level as a visual upgrade, it is still work that would take years to prepare while also doing everything else.

The big issue isn't so much getting the assets together, (which would take a long time but they can sprinkle updated assets in small patches here and there and nobody would notice... like I recall as far back as WoD where they created an updated version of the Human Inns like from Goldshire in Spires of Arak, but it was small and cramped.)

The real big issue is to get all these assets together and NOT pull a Cata and deconstruct/reconstruct everything from scratch while trying to make sure the old Cata code doesn't go haywire and cause graphical/texture issues. (I've mentioned this before, but when they updated Arathi for BFA's Warfronts, there was some issue going on with that one stream in Hillsbrad Foothills.. the water's surface texture was completely missing so it looked like a dry ravine until you stepped in.. the water was still there, but the top texture for it was gone. So if you had the camera positioned above water.. it looked like you were swimming in air.) - This is the biggest hurdle they'll have to get through, unless they have some idea to work it in.

[Raetary]

where did you find this?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...17103346938038

[Fahrad Wagner]

The lamp is currently not used anywhere as far as I can see.

Oh sorry, I was asking who datamined this?

[Fahrad Wagner]

Only 7 weeks until BlizzCon !

I'm so hyped! I know I might end up disappointed, but the chance of a World Revamp are higher than eve!r

[Zers Editor]

A theory:
At the end of the expansion Odyn will be solidified as an enemy (what with him being a compilation of everything Vyranoth hates about the Titans), with Tyr siding with the Aspects and us against him.

[Sondrelk]

I'm so hyped! I know I might end up disappointed, but the chance of a World Revamp are higher than eve!r

I feel the only question now is whether these are the hints for 12.0, similar to how Dragon Isles were heavily pushed in the last patch of BfA.

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A theory:
At the end of the expansion Odyn will be solidified as an enemy (what with him being a compilation of everything Vyranoth hates about the Titans), with Tyr siding with the Aspects and us against him.

Why would Tyr side against the other keepers when his motivations seems heavily tilted towards pushing the Titan agenda?

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blatant lie.

name 1 season/aotc recolor mount reward.

or even name 1 EXPANSION with double aotc mount rewards.

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Iridikon is probably left for 11.0 (or some further) expansion.

We have never had an AOTC mount that is a recolour of an existing mount from the raid either.
An AOTC mounts didn't exist until MoP, so it's not like the concept is set in stone from time immemorial either.

[Sondrelk]

Same! There are so many clues for a revamp:

- Updated old models unused since BfA (and new models)
- In game quests that hint at upcoming changes to old areas
- WoW will be 20 years old
- Thrall is on the BlizzCon poster
- Chris Metzen to announce expansion
- Mike Ybara responds to a tweet about the revamp that it won't be pirates
- Ion Hazzikostas saying they've learned from their Cataclysm mistakes and that a revamp is "likely to happen" wink wink

It's so obvious...I mean there's got to be a connection to Ybara and Ion willingly giving clues in such a short time

Obviously there is always a certain margin where a basic expansion happens so you have to be careful!

I would say the only reason to think it might not be at this point is that there are usually hints towards the expansion after the next one as we get closer to the end. BfA heavily pushed dragons in the last patch, and even name dropped the Dragon Isles. The time skip and focus on rebuilding at the end of Shadowlands. Wrathion talking about how important it was to stop the Legion that would surely come back any second now.

[Samin]

- Mike Ybara responds to a tweet about the revamp that it won't be pirates
- Ion Hazzikostas saying they've learned from their Cataclysm mistakes and that a revamp is "likely to happen" wink wink

First the joke: Ybarra said "No Pirates" but an old world revamp would surely include Bloodsail Pirates.

Then the serious: I just don't think Ion would this blatantly and candidly spoil the next expansion. There is just no way. He would have dodged the question at least a bit if that's what they're planning (i.e. currently working on) for the next expansion. He's talking about further future of WoW, not 11.0.

[Lady Atia]

Bummer. If true then this is the least wrapped up expansion story I can remember.
Edit: Oh it's not a mount just another appearance item like the last two raids. I don't think that is an indicator of 10.2 being the final tier.

Tbf I'm quite hopeful that they will change all the "full transformation" skins into propper mounts once they merge both flying modes. Gladiators already get both the normal mount and the full transformation for dragonriding anyways, and once every other flying mount is able to use dynamic flight the full transformations make even less sense than currently.

[Sondrelk]

First the joke: Ybarra said "No Pirates" but an old world revamp would surely include Bloodsail Pirates.

Then the serious: I just don't think Ion would this blatantly and candidly spoil the next expansion. There is just no way. He would have dodged the question at least a bit if that's what they're planning (i.e. currently working on) for the next expansion. He's talking about further future of WoW, not 11.0.

They have hardly spoiled the next expansion though. "We see the value in a world revamp" is hardly conclusive evidence.

[Samin]

They have hardly spoiled the next expansion though. "We see the value in a world revamp" is hardly conclusive evidence.

That's my point. It was brought up as a clue for a revamp, but I don't think it is. In fact I would say it is a clue against a revamp (in 11.0).

[Sondrelk]

That's my point. It was brought up as a clue for a revamp, but I don't think it is. In fact I would say it is a clue against a revamp (in 11.0).

We are basically down to two options for 11.0 at this point. Backside of Azeroth, or World Revamp.
Really it just comes down to which is more likely. World revamp has tons of assets and hints. Backside of Azeroth has the same hints we do for other expansions set in unknown areas.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Yeah, it is either Backside of Azeroth or Revamp in my view too.

Honestly, both are exciting prospects that take me out of the darkness that is the "End of 3 Raid Tiers/x.3 Death"/"Night Elves getting exiled to Dragon Isles".

Fundamentally, I cannot stress how much I am looking forward to see Opening Ceremony, Metzen, Keynotes and Development Panels after this nightmare ending of DF.

[Samin]

If they don't wrap up Iridikron in DF, then a void/nether/space adventure expansion is definitely a possibility.

[Annihilas]

And we have all of BFA to look to, the majority of the horde were on board with sylvanas plans until she turned on them.

Bullshit, she pulled a fast one and did things that went beyond any "known" plans. She deceived many until the very end and even made sure by word of mouth that the story of the burning tree would became a twisted version of the truth.

Can you point some responsible for war crimes that lead Forsaken currently? Cause it's not like we have many characters to study, and during burning of Teldrassil you can see only Sylvanas, Nathanos and Saurfang.

Exactly this.

[huth]

Bullshit, she pulled a fast one and did things that went beyond any "known" plans. She deceived many until the very end and even made sure by word of mouth that the story of the burning tree would became a twisted version of the truth.



Exactly this.

People seem to need reminding that the official plan for that campaign was taking Teldrassil hostage as leverage against the Night Elves. Which is also the one Saurfang was on board with. What happened after was not openly discussed with anybody prior to the event.

[Lady Atia]

Can we maybe stop with the Sylvanas bashing and lore discussions of past expansions again?

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If they don't wrap up Iridikron in DF, then a void/nether/space adventure expansion is definitely a possibility.

We already got our Iridikron and Tyr fights via the Megadungeon, no clue why people are expecting another one with them this expansion.

[Villager720]

Honestly as soon as I saw that they’d included an icon in the files for a 4th glad mount on the first day of the patch, I grew concerned this might be it for ‘full’ DF seasons.

With more evidence coming to light such as the wording for pathfinder, Fyrakk having an AotC mount, Blizzard’s cageyness (and similar language to 9.2) around if this was “it” for DF, and additional, unused set colors for the tiers, I do think we’re really getting just 2 major patches.

But, based on the speed they’ve been churning out the content… I just don’t see a huge drought coming our way either. So I’m really beginning to wonder if we’re potentially getting 11.0 sometime next summer? If 11.0 isn’t getting close, why plan to hit new patches every 8 weeks? Why not every 10 weeks?