The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

Because, as everybody knows, Yrel is a female Ogre in disguise.

Ogres from Draenor would likely be the new playable race in a Yrel expansion.

[Woggmer]

Considering Smolderon disappeared in BFA, wasn't around in Shadowlands, and then there was a five year timeskip... you defnitely can. Shamans aren't relevant to the current expansion for whatever reason.

Expect it to be a sidestory thing or 11.0 related.

The only possible underlying theory I have is that the Cult of Ragnaros, The Druids of the Flame, Magetha's most loyal Grimtotems, and other possible evil elemental aligned baddy.. all became part of the Primalists.

Hence why they have so many forces everywhere.

[Izalla]

I'm really hoping for a world revamp. I can easily see what features they would bring :

>Complete interfaction gameplay. You can quest and queue with your friends
>Advanced Riding, which would be dragonriding for ground mount. With solo Q BGs it could be a thing. Also, I would love to see new races in the Thousand Needles where you pimp your bike / rocket car.
>BGs revamped with categories of BG like Capture the flag, king of the hill or simply deathmatch. Would also love to see some old school content become brawl like the WoD Highmaul arena.
>New Brawler's Guild but in all arena of Azeroth (Gurubashi like in the first WoW trailer)
>Archeology revamped to work like Secret of Azeroth, with multiple tools for multiple tasks.
>Cosmetic spells (which will end up in the store, we all know it)
>Every vanilla class for every race
>Maybe DH for void elves / nightbornes ?
>Keyforging for MM+ where you can add new affixes for better rewards (and also replay some of the fun affixes like BFA S2)

I'd be willing to bet that this will happen even if the next expac isn't our revamp, and that the whole system was intended to test out the tools and response to it all before it gets implemented as the archaeology rework. It was about a million times better than how archaeology works now so kudos to them for that.

[Kiivar86]

What I miss these last two hours??? Something about the aspects getting their powers?

Datamined models of the aspects in both dragon and visage forms with glowing eyes.

Could be something. Could be nothing.

[Well Done Steak]

Datamined models of the aspects in both dragon and visage forms with glowing eyes.

Could be something. Could be nothing.

Link?? Clicked the Twitter one and nothing

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Ogres from Draenor would likely be the new playable race in a Yrel expansion.

That's exactly what I thought, ogres from the south west continent in the wod map.

[Marlamin]

10.2.5 or 11.0, whats more likely?

Neither, unless they've been specifically hiding 11.0 as 1.15 (which would be new, but not impossible) this is just going to be a Classic thing. The only way 1.15 is unusual is that it's been popping up on encrypted endpoints as far back as April.

[Vlyse]

Would be a shame for the Aspects to regain their powers only for Iridikron and the Harbinger and the Twilight Dragonflight to steal them with the Dragon Soul 2.0, removing from play Azeroth’s protectors (the dragons), and ushering in a new Hour of Twilight, with only the light of Tyr and Azeroth’s champions to push back The Void. And therefore repeating patch 4.3 next, just like we’re repeating patch 4.2 with Guardians of the Dream.

For the Dragon Isles to be free, the dragons have to face both the Titans that made them, and the Void that’s always tried to conquer them. We saw this with both Sarkareth and Fyrakk but both have a master we have to face before Dragonflight can be over.

[Cheezits]

Would be a shame for the Aspects to regain their powers only for Iridikron and the Harbinger to steal them with the Dragon Soul 2.0, removing from play Azeroth’s protectors (the dragons), and ushering in a new Hour of Twilight, with only the light of Tyr and Azeroth’s champions to push back The Void. And therefore repeating patch 4.3 next, just like we’re repeating patch 4.2 with Guardians of the Dream.

For the Dragon Isles to be free, the dragons have to face both the Titans that made them, and the Void that’s always tried to conquer them. We saw this with both Sarkareth and Fyrakk but both have a master we have to face before Dragonflight can be over.

It's going to be a happy ending because that's the entire theme of the expansion, IMO. The only bad thing that will happen is probably Tyr/Odyn/more turning their back on the aspects, especially now that they aren't shackled to him.

Unless Tyr straight up murders Vyranoth and peaces out.

[JMitchy96]

So Blizzard Korea have taken down the VoD of Bellular’s latest stream from YouTube - in which they showed and discussed the recent cinematic photo “leak”.

Blizzard telling on themselves? Drogbar expansion confirmed??

[Cheezits]

So Blizzard Korea have taken down the VoD of Bellular’s latest stream from YouTube - in which they showed and discussed the recent cinematic photo “leak”.

Blizzard telling on themselves? Drogbar expansion confirmed??

I think it's probably Diablo honestly. So a legitimate leak, but not WoW.

[ro9ue]

We don't NEED Draenor for playable Ogres. Lots of people missed it, but Seething Shore had Ogre architecture. It was just a beach of a much larger land mass off the west coast of Silithus/Feralas.

[Cheezits]

We don't NEED Draenor for playable Ogres. Lots of people missed it, but Seething Shore had Ogre architecture. It was just a beach of a much larger land mass off the west coast of Silithus/Feralas.

Any revamp would have a ton of Ogres because they are everywhere.

[huth]

We don't NEED Draenor for playable Ogres. Lots of people missed it, but Seething Shore had Ogre architecture. It was just a beach of a much larger land mass off the west coast of Silithus/Feralas.

If anything, a clan that's already on Azeroth would make more sense. WoD Ogres weren't exactly the most friendly bunch.

[Cheezits]

If anything, a clan that's already on Azeroth would make more sense. WoD Ogres weren't exactly the most friendly bunch.

I think the most fun option would be a new clan of Ogres from Dire Maul, that just HAPPENED to culturally become more like their Highmaul ancestors and learn about the Arcane from Highborne scribbles and artifacts. So we get melee AND casters.

Also if they join Horde (most likely) they could have fun antics with the Nightborne.

[Kiivar86]

Link?? Clicked the Twitter one and nothing

I tried copying it into discord, let's see if this works for ya.

[Scyth]

Considering Smolderon disappeared in BFA, wasn't around in Shadowlands, and then there was a five year timeskip... you defnitely can. Shamans aren't relevant to the current expansion for whatever reason.

Expect it to be a sidestory thing or 11.0 related.

Possible, yeah. Still don't understand how Shamans are irrelevat this xpac.

I mean isn't it pretty straight-forward? The Incarnates whole deal, though they take individual approaches, is undoing Order control and retaking the planet for the primal forces (i.e. Elements). They're pretty unambiguously helpful from the pov of the elementals, it's not surprising that even one of the Elemental Lords joined up. The Earthen Ring voted for him, but they're also perfectly content letting the elements stay handicapped for the sake of the whole planet remaining in its current status quo.

Fair, that makes sense. From that POV it's not hard to imagine the elemental lords siding with them, especially the Fire one which has always been very all about destruction. It still rubs me the wrong way that we don't get any story about this though, it's just too sudden.

Odd choice. If there’s no intention of attaching any story to his being there then Blizz could have just opted for a newly created fire elemental character. Unless of course they just want a well known name their to make the raid seem more interesting. But again, what’s the point if there’s no story?

Just have to hope they address it eventually but unlikely lol

[ro9ue]

So Blizzard Korea have taken down the VoD of Bellular’s latest stream from YouTube - in which they showed and discussed the recent cinematic photo “leak”.

Blizzard telling on themselves? Drogbar expansion confirmed??

When Bolvar leaked, it was pretty obviously pro level. It will be trickier to know what is legit now that AI is in the mix. The cinematic "leak" looks really good quality wise, but it's not obvious what the hell we're looking at. AI's weakness is generating something specific. If we were looking at a well rendered out Thrall, I think we could be more confident in the legitimacy.

If we assume it's real, looks like a fire-infused orc. Can potentially line up with the elemental theme of DF. Or something from Diablo

[Revamp Man]

When Bolvar leaked, it was pretty obviously pro level. It will be trickier to know what is legit now that AI is in the mix. The cinematic "leak" looks really good quality wise, but it's not obvious what the hell we're looking at. AI's weakness is generating something specific. If we were looking at a well rendered out Thrall, I think we could be more confident in the legitimacy.

If we assume it's real, looks like a fire-infused orc. Can potentially line up with the elemental theme of DF. Or something from Diablo

I'd say more earth infused because it looked like a stoneborne with anger issues and an ED

[Cheezits]

When Bolvar leaked, it was pretty obviously pro level. It will be trickier to know what is legit now that AI is in the mix. The cinematic "leak" looks really good quality wise, but it's not obvious what the hell we're looking at. AI's weakness is generating something specific. If we were looking at a well rendered out Thrall, I think we could be more confident in the legitimacy.

If we assume it's real, looks like a fire-infused orc. Can potentially line up with the elemental theme of DF. Or something from Diablo

I think it's either a Drogbar (Iridikron ally?), a new species entirely (lines up with Back of Azeroth and Revamp), or simply not WoW.

[Woggmer]

I think it's probably Diablo honestly. So a legitimate leak, but not WoW.

I don't think it's Diablo related. Diablo's style goes for a more realistic look, while this image is more cartoonish looking.. especially around the teeth/tusks.