The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Xilurm]

I don't want to get myself hyped about World Revamp, even though I really want it. There's a high chance I'll be disappointed.

[Sondrelk]

So, how many of you believe that the world revamp is happening in 11.0? I believe so.

Since when they have been revamping assets? Legion? BfA? They plan expansions way in advance, so one would think that they would want something big for the 30th anniversary of the franchise.

Also, I am a firm believer of a Draenor kind of revamp. IMO is the only possible way to do a meaningful revamp.

Finally, I would say that they would have the balls to revamp all Kalimdor and The Eastern Kingdoms at the same time. Of course, may zones would be merged. Although with a twist. They would take the FFXIV approach, setting lots of events and WQs everywhere, and also many many side quests for world building, but only one Main Questline, that do not need to cover all zones. In fact, it could start with just a few. Through patches and expansions, it would be expanded.

In such a way, they would always be able to come back to old zones without feeling the pressure to cover all the revamped zones. The same would be applied to dungeons. Not all of them need to be revamped in 11.0. They would always be able to go back and add whatever they want in a cleaner way than current WoW, which is a mess, honestly.

I think a world revamp is highly likely. The only reason to think they wouldn't do one is because they would want one more expansions worth of work behind it. Though honestly I think a world revamp is a far more natural next step to follow Dragonflight.
Revamp the talent system, the profession system. Give a lot of focus on individual classes so most players are happy. Test a whole bunch of iterations of world events to see what works.
Then take all that work and workshopping and finally fix possibly their biggest misstep, the absolute waste that was Cataclysms world revamp.

[micwini]

I don't want to get myself hyped about World Revamp, even though I really want it. There's a high chance I'll be disappointed.

IT doesn't matter because if its not this one, it is for sure the one after that.

[Cheezits]

Food for thought: if there wasn't a single book mentioning the word Avaloren, there is nothing pointing to a new continent as the next expansion. While there are a LOT of restarts of Old World storylines like Scarlets, Nobles, etc.

Also Thrall.

[Worldshaper]

Time to start building the train

Here are your first assets. Go!

[hattahat]

Do you guys think the Dream is likely Elune's realm? Or do you think it's simply Titan made and nothing more?

I think Emerald Dream is a realm that Eonar created through some sort of deal with Elune.

[Worldshaper]

Ah yes...blank. My favorite hype train asset.

Lol, it didn't like Wowpedia image links. Changed it!

[Fahrad Wagner]

It's official, we need a new hype train folks!

[Cheezits]

The Dream is definitely not Eonar and Freya's creation, but they wrangled it to be very specific to Azeroth. I think they pinched a piece of the overall Lifelands off with Elune's oversight.

Or there is simply a Dream for every life/spirit-filled planet and Eonar and Freya tweaked theirs.

[Chickat]

Reusing all those color palletes would be a bit uninspired though, i expect a world revamp to give each zone its unique color and not just copy paste vol'dun sands everywhere for example, or every marsh to end up a nazmir copy or Ungoro to turn into valsharah green.
Most things you mentioned could end up being reused but i would hope for a retint to a degree including the structure assets and not a half assed revamp.

They could easily recolor the sand to be paler like traditional tanaris sand.

[Zardas]

I do wonder if they will add a Classic phase to retail Chromie Time, now that they rebuilt Classic EK and Kalimdor. Is it possible?

Maybe not with bronze drake on each zone because there could be some size differences and the transitions would be weird, but they sure could add those bronze drakes in Orgrimmar and Stormwind that would phase you to the old EK and Kalimdor

[Chickat]

I believe it was mentioned fairly early into the reveal of Dragonflight during one of the interviews I want to say. During a question on how we get there, and it was mentioned that there would be changes to the Stormwind docks to accommodate the new transportation.

Now this could have meant the changes we got. The ship from Kul Tiras sailing in from the opposite direction but still on the same dock. The implications definitely seemed like the docks would be changed.

This was back when the intro was describing as letting you jump between the Alliance and Horde ships, which is obviously impossible now that the Horde comes in by airship.

Hmm interesting. I do remember that now that you mention it.

[Foolicious]

The Dream is definitely not Eonar and Freya's creation, but they wrangled it to be very specific to Azeroth. I think they pinched a piece of the overall Lifelands off with Elune's oversight.

Or there is simply a Dream for every life/spirit-filled planet and Eonar and Freya tweaked theirs.

If only there would be an opportunity, like a patch centered around the emerald dream, to dive deeper into the lore of the dream...

[Cheezits]

If only there would be an opportunity, like a patch centered around the emerald dream, to dive deeper into the lore of the dream...

After the reception to Shadowlands? I do NOT blame them for not bothering making that a focus.

There are apparently some hidden lorebooks that have not been found, and we did just get an official confirmation that Eonar and Freya directly worked together on the Dream.

[Reive]

the emeral dream should have been as big as argus (in game) to flesh out the place a bit more. right now it looks just like another forest.

[micwini]

It's official, we need a new hype train folks!

It's a start I guess.
Forgot to add No Pirates tweet, but I guess someone can do that in round 2 of edits

[Cheezits]

I mean, if only lol.

The only thing this patch solidified was that there's most definitely a connection between Eonar and Elune.

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Wait...there are hidden lorebooks? Where did you hear about this?

Also, the Wild Hunt are in the Dream, so SL stuff is definitely present there.

There are 4 hidden books nobody has found, one of which is pretty explicitly anti-Titan speculation on the Dream.

https://x.com/portergauge/status/170...510159288?s=46

[Worldshaper]

It's a start I guess.
Forgot to add No Pirates tweet, but I guess someone can do that in round 2 of edits

It's a great start, choo choo! Can you make Thrall a bit less transparent? He's the big dude of the event!

[Santandame]

Anyways. Now that a world revamp is definitely happening at some point. What raids and dungeons would people like to see?
Personally I would love an instance set in the blighted Undercity as well as one in Stratholme. Botani invasion of Dire Maul would be fun as well.

Off the top of my head:

Kalimdor

- Botani Wailing Caverns
- Mean Streets of Gadgetztan
- Some sort of ice palace in Winterspring where the remaining Primalists make their base. Could have them destroy Everlook and erect over its ruins.
- Maraudon repurposed as the Mongrel Horde stronghold. Wratheye unites the Gnolls, Centaur, Quillboar, Saberon and Harpies.
- Ruins of Darnassus as a raid. Either have it as twisted, horrifying version of Teldrassil/Darnassus or even better have Azshara mock Tyrande and Malfurion, building a new Zin Azshari here.

[Worldshaper]

Off the top of my head:

Kalimdor

- Botani Wailing Caverns
- Mean Streets of Gadgetztan
- Some sort of ice palace in Winterspring where the remaining Primalists make their base. Could have them destroy Everlook and erect over its ruins.
- Maraudon repurposed as the Mongrel Horde stronghold. Wratheye unites the Gnolls, Centaur, Quillboar, Saberon and Harpies.
- Ruins of Darnassus as a raid. Either have it as twisted, horrifying version of Teldrassil/Darnassus or even better have Azshara mock Tyrande and Malfurion, building a new Zin Azshari here.

I wonder if it could be possible to make the raids and dungeons evergreen as well.

Like... the locations are permanent, but the mobs, the bosses, and everything else inside can be changed. The SM might launch as a Scarlet Crusade thing, but then a couple of expansions later it's full of something else. Both versions still exist (one is canonically back in time).