The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Kiria]

I'd say around October probably.

Oooof my birthday

[Dracullus]

I wish Allied Races were made after Blizzard opened up about customizations. Let's face it: at least Lightforged Draenei, Highmountain Tauren, Mag'har Orc wouldn't be separate races and dealt like Wildhammer, Sandfury, High Elves or Man'ari.

[Kiria]

I wonder if for the world revamp, they will do annual expansions

2024 > World of Warcraft: Kalimdor
2025 > World of Warcraft: Eastern Kingdoms

Doing both continents at once seems like a lot, but who knows

For all we know they've been working on the revamp since before BFA and all those datamined assets are just small parts of it, it is absolutely possible for them to revamp the entirity of Kalimdor and EK's, especially with today's technologies.

[- Zephox -]

how close to blizzcon did we start getting leaks? I feel like even the fake ones has been lacking this year

I mean you have Scaleface in the forum that last 2 expansions he actually leaked stuff...

Or one of his burner accounts. Usually a week or two before the con legit leaks show up but most of the time are dismissed and sometimes planted by Blizz (fake ones) they even joked about it in one of the cons how they trolled people with fake logos.

But yes check Scaleface or one of his burner accounts....

[Shadochi]

Talking about leaks, someone posted this on Reddit:

https://i.imgur.com/8Zn8D7L.jpg

For future reference, this is the OG image to use from 2015 (with over 35k troll views) https://imgur.com/XCHUYUi

[Raetary]

For future reference, this is the OG image to use from 2015 (with over 35k troll views) https://imgur.com/XCHUYUi

I think we can break the 40k views mark with enough effort.

[Shadochi]

I think we can break the 40k views mark with enough effort.

thats the spirit, honestly until I randomly opened this thread yesterday, my hype level was medium, now its getting up and up

[RahEndymion]

10 pages in 16 hours?

The train. It's the train.

Well it's definitely hype season now.

[Holdodlig]

For all we know they've been working on the revamp since before BFA and all those datamined assets are just small parts of it, it is absolutely possible for them to revamp the entirity of Kalimdor and EK's, especially with today's technologies.

I agree with you. When Uther's tomb was revamped, we all knew something was going on. It either was a cut warfront or something else. Guess it was something else after all !

[Sondrelk]

10 pages in 16 hours?

The train. It's the train.

Well it's definitely hype season now.

Only think that would make it better was if we could somehow make it a hype ship using the new ship models

[Lights Vengeance]

I think it's rather this Eastern kingdoms+ light goes evil expansion idea. Overall the EK need a revamp much more. Also from a business perspective they can then split the revamp into two expansions

I'd be fine with a revamp spread over two expansions, more time to do the job properly!

Based on the AVAILABLE (not hidden/encrypted) stuff in the files as of 10.2, if there is a "partial revamp" the zones are probably going to be:

-Stormwind
-Silvermoon City
-A Nelf Zone: possibly just Amirdrassil?
-Maybe an Orc area?

There isn't enough to point to a whole Org revamp at this time. Some dwarf assets.

Why would they do a partial revamp when the main draw of a world revamp would be to be able to have content just in the revamped zones, and tell stories centered around the revamped zones?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post54218610

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post54218611

[Raetary]

Only think that would make it better was if we could somehow make it a hype ship using the new ship models

Without having to redo the entire image, best i can do is edit parts of the ship onto the train if someone posts a screenshot of one of the ships in the same perspective as the train.

[Teriz]

They were literally beholden to the same malevolent Narru with a fanatical drive to wipe out the legion or turn them to the light like they did the dread lord.

The dread lord willingly converted. He wasn't forced to do so. Further, the Lightforged aren't currently attempting to convert everyone by force on Azeroth.

They are/were 1 to 1 the same other then the last 30 years since Wod and ten thousand years of using all the same tech with all the same teaching will always beat out 30 years of getting beat up by stuff you don’t understand.

They aren't though. The lightforged are the draenei that remained on Argus to fight the legion. The AU Draenei are the standard Draenei race introduced in TBC that fled Argus thousands of years ago to settle on Draenor, but never fled Draenor to escape the legion-induced Orcs.

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As I've said before, we don't know the full story with the Lightbound. While it's likely—going off the general lack of nuance to the recent writing trend of "all sides bad, assume position for mortal wank"—that it won't be anything other than "evil Lightbound enact horrible unprovoked imperialism on the harmless babies who definitely never did imperialism", a rare and tragic submission to Watsonian analysis of Warcraft lore leaves me wondering whether or not Geya'rah is a reliable source. Keep in mind she's seemingly an admirer of Grom, who is a hyperexpansionist military warlord, and she seems possessed of a certain reactionary sentiment. It is possible that the majority of Draenor is entirely on-board with the Lightbound and that the Mag'har are just a crazy reactionary group that went rogue the moment they detected a threat to their cultural sovereignty and religious traditions in the mass conversions of certain clans.

The problem with your theory is that we actually encounter Yrel in that scenario and she backs up everything that Geya'rah and Grom say about her. Even down to the forceful conversion part, which she does in our presence.

As @Well Done Steak said in an earlier post, Blizzard clearly wanted us to see Yrel as a villain in this scenario. They could have easily not had those events happen at all, and just have a scenario where Draenor is dying and we have to convince the Mag'har to leave their home. Instead, we encounter a Yrel that is forcibly converting people and wiping out the last vestige of opposition on Draenor, with further context that she's under the influence of a sinister naaru that is whispering to her and her alone. That's not a story thread that Blizzard is going to leave hanging forever.

[Alanar]

paladins and priests
titans now believe they must reorder cosmos
illidan escapes, starts events of story, dies
world revamp is tied to reordering

This sounds mpre believeable then anything I have heard so far lol.

[Lady Atia]

paladins and priests
titans now believe they must reorder cosmos
illidan escapes, starts events of story, dies
world revamp is tied to reordering

Why would they kill off Illidan? We aren't living in the GoT hype era anymore lol.

[Alanar]

Why would they kill off Illidan? We aren't living in the GoT hype era anymore lol.

Is that a serious question?

[Raetary]

Why would they kill off Illidan? We aren't living in the GoT hype era anymore lol.

How does the death of a single character equal to "GoT hype era"?

[Dragon ANX]

I'd say around October probably.

If you are saying random BS leaks, they will start to go crazy in the next weeks.
Now, if you are talking about true leaks, they will generally start to appear arround 1 week before BlizzCon, because thats arround when Blizz needs to get things like flyers and interviews with some press done and that means that information starts to spread to people that may not be that good at keeping secrets.

[Cheezits]

Legion 2 with no Illidan and evil Titans is not something I would have considered. Sounds kind of cool though.

[Lady Atia]

How does the death of a single character equal to "GoT hype era"?

Because you just don't kill off one of your most beloved characters in some random intro anymore after GoT's last shitty season? We had that in Legion thanks to the than current hype.

(and btw, I love the books, but WoW doesn't need that kind of storytelling)