The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[micwini]

Teldrassil is on it (covered by clouds, look closely)
I was there today and Pandaria is actually on there, though you have to break your neck to peak down to be able to see it.
Quelthalas is actually not on there WTF.

[ChairmanKaga]

The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.

[Izalla]

Pretty sure the whole Nightsquall thing is the first time they have officially referenced "the backside or Azeroth" in game. They've also already said in game maps will never hinder them from adding new continents.

[Santandame]

The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.

During Dragonflight launch I was convinced the final patch would be Infinites with Murozond as the final boss. That during the boss fight he would transport us to a different time period with each phase. I had the idea that he final phase would be pre-sundering Kalimdor and Azshara would jump through to reclaim the “true throne of power” that being her old empire armed with the knowledge she has of the future. Bingo, we’d get an Ancient Kalimdor expansion.

Sadly I don’t think it’s ever a possibility anymore.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

Which one?

When it was announced, I swear there was an FAQ added and one of the questions was about Allied Races. They said currently no plans, but the idea wasn't abandoned. It seemed like it was unprompted. I'll see if I can find it later on, unless I imagined it in a fever dream.

[Worldshaper]

I don't know about others but Dragonflight is elemental enough for me. The upcoming 10.2 also features alot of fire people/places/things.

I do like Azshara coming back though. I think Azshara's goal will be to awaken Azeroth (the Titan) and Freaky Friday swap minds or just like absorb her power. Though I think her trying to swap into a titan's body from her N'Zoth twisted form would be more interesting. Plus they could have the Azeroth titan interacting with everyone in Azshara's body.

It's elemental all right. Just as WoD had a lot of Fel stuff before Legion, and BfA had a bunch of Death stuff before Shadowlands.

Interesting idea about the body/mind swap!

The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.

I've suggested Ancient Kalimdor as one possibility a couple of times. I think it'd be interesting to see.

[Foolicious]

The map made me wonder, has anyone suggested a pre-Sundering set expansion? Whatever time travel or such shenanigans but the new continent would actually be the old Kailmdor.

Yes it has been discussed a few times, especially now with the return of azshara on the horizon. I think the problem usually was that it was a) a timetravel expansion and people where unsure if blizz would try that again and b) there have been very few hints or reasons why we would go back there.

I think it would be a great idea, but ancient kalimdor would be massive. And i hate to say it, but a world revamp would be far more likely than ancient kalimdor.

[Revamp Man]

Just read the interview

They do realize they were describing previous expansion raid bosses right?? Like I enjoy the serpent boss but it sounds like a BfA encounter

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It's elemental all right. Just as WoD had a lot of Fel stuff before Legion, and BfA had a bunch of Death stuff before Shadowlands.

Interesting idea about the body/mind swap!



I've suggested Ancient Kalimdor as one possibility a couple of times. I think it'd be interesting to see.

11.0 is definitely elemental
Thrall is the world shaman
We just killed the fire lord

[Raetary]

We just killed the fire lord

He's just back in the firelands.

Well, provided Blizzard remembers that.

[Holdodlig]

Just read the interview

They do realize they were describing previous expansion raid bosses right?? Like I enjoy the serpent boss but it sounds like a BfA encounter

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11.0 is definitely elemental
Thrall is the world shaman
We just killed the fire lord

I think it would be redundant with the primalists, but I agree that the elements will play an important part in the upcoming expansion - if it's a revamp. Each time the elements were involved and we had to slay an elemental lord, we discovered a new world. Vanilla had us "kill" Ragnaros and Cata had us kill Al'akir and Ragnaros.

I also believe we might have a pause with the current plot, and they'll probably reintroduce some new villains for us to worry about. After all, outside of Denathrius nobody is threatening us in the Shadowlands. The undead who were a big deal in vanilla (covering 5 zones and half the major dungeons) no longer seems to be a threat.

Demons who also were quite in number are mostly gone and needs a reason or new leadership to corrupt Azeroth. Having multiple demonic overlords on Azeroth trying to claim territories could be great.

Old gods and Twilight Hammer really became relevant in Cataclysm, but they were a big enough danger for the world back in Vanilla. We know about the void lords, but it seems that outside of the Harbringer, they're still far from us.

What I try to say is that the world needs new threats, or need to refresh some of those we already know. If Yrel comes to Azeroth, we need to know how and why. They are setting up for a big titan threat too. Could be cool to see how it impacts some culture like dwarves who had one of their leader becoming a servant of Azeroth (or at least that's what we were told.)

[Worldshaper]

11.0 is definitely elemental
Thrall is the world shaman
We just killed the fire lord

Yeah, at least part of it will probably be.

[Lady Atia]

He's just back in the firelands.

Well, provided Blizzard remembers that.

Tbf it looks like he does that same thing Ragnaros did in Hyjal - he brings the Firelands into the raid so I would guess if we kill him there, he will be gone for good. Like Archimonde, untill they retcon it again haha.

PS: I mean, we even had the whole Cult of Ragnaros thing going on so it seems like even if you kill an elemental in their respective prison plane that they can actually respawn again, just not on their own.

[Well Done Steak]

11.0 is not elemental....

We've been dealing with the elements all of DF, come on guys....

[Santandame]

11.0 is not elemental....

We've been dealing with the elements all of DF, come on guys....

Yep agree with you on this one. It’s beating a dead horse at this point. It would be like if we had just finished Shadowlands and then 10.0 was an expansion where the Cult of the Damned have seized control of the remaining Scourge and we go back to Northrend.

The elements will play a part in a world revamp, along with every other threat on some scale but that’s the furthest it will go.

DF is the element expansion.

[milkmustache]

11.0 is definitely elemental
Thrall is the world shaman
We just killed the fire lord

What a bore that would be. The elemental plots never do it for me, I'm sorry shaman friends

EDIT: Elementals worked with Cata, the world being sundered again, but if we are to believe revamp incoming I can't possibly see it being another shattering world-in-chaos event, but rather maybe something bloom related via the Dream & Amirdrassil

[Revamp Man]

11.0 is not elemental....

We've been dealing with the elements all of DF, come on guys....

No we've been dealing with the primalists and fyrakk

We had elemental storms for the first patch but now it's just been fyrakk burning everything for what will be two patches in a row

[Hitei]

No we've been dealing with the primalists and fyrakk

Ah, you mean the elementalist faction whose ranks are full of elementals and who are doing element-based things at all of their elementally infused locations? And the elementally infused proto-drake who is the incarnate of one of the four elements and is working alongside the elemental lord of fire?

[milkmustache]

No we've been dealing with the primalists and fyrakk

We had elemental storms for the first patch but now it's just been fyrakk burning everything for what will be two patches in a row

Sure, but thematically the incarnates and primalists are directly associated with the elements. @Santandame nailed it with the Shadowlands example

[Fahrad Wagner]

No we've been dealing with the primalists and fyrakk

We had elemental storms for the first patch but now it's just been fyrakk burning everything for what will be two patches in a row

Still- they're heavily themed after the elements and it would cause some fatigue for the players. Because two things are different doesn't mean they don't overlap when it comes to the theme (for example Primalists/Elementals; Emerald Dream/Lifelands; Scourge/Shadowland etc.). To me DF very much felt like a both a dragon and elemental expansion

[Cheezits]

No earthen ring though. Sides one WQ.

Thrall on keyart + no actual earthen ring or non-Primalist shaman presence + "elemental expansion" = something is up.