The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[RahEndymion]

I know it's early days still but I 100% believe there should be a tel'abim banana.

They need to go full Arthurian
The knights of the round being titan forged that went against Odyn and the others
Merlin being a keeper
They are protecting the dead body of the original Xal
Xal as we know her is essentially the Morgana

This is a really cool idea. I think Xal fits that archetype perfectly too.

[Raetary]

It's so good. Need to ensure there is enough room for future leaks though I suppose. Need to restrain myself from suggesting more stuff.

It's ok, there's still the whole left side of the image, thralls armpit, back and underside of the train and i can definitely fit more stuff over swift.

And i can always resize or replace the bigger objects.

[Santandame]

Just let Fyrakk rule over the Firelands tbh, he's fun and would be a waste to lose him lol

This would be preferable. Please Blizz, find some way of us being unable to kill Fyrakk and have him banished to the Firelands instead. He would be such a fun reoccurring villain.

[Sondrelk]

It's ok, there's still the whole left side of the image, thralls armpit, back and underside of the train and i can definitely fit more stuff over swift.

And i can always resize or replace the bigger objects.

That's true. Metzen could go on the train as well I'm sure.
That being said, I don't have any ideas right now. It's hard to pinpoint anything specific about a world revamp or backside of Azeroth that fits in the image.

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Back to the topic of a world revamp. I know it's a meme, but what would Silithus look and play like in a world revamp? What kind of content would be good and justify the amount of lore surrounding the giant sword?

[Xilurm]

That's true. Metzen could go on the train as well I'm sure.
That being said, I don't have any ideas right now. It's hard to pinpoint anything specific about a world revamp or backside of Azeroth that fits in the image.

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Back to the topic of a world revamp. I know it's a meme, but what would Silithus look and play like in a world revamp? What kind of content would be good and justify the amount of lore surrounding the giant sword?

Some druids taking a reading or something. Like that big crystal that was thrust in Hellfire Peninsula.

[Santandame]

That's true. Metzen could go on the train as well I'm sure.
That being said, I don't have any ideas right now. It's hard to pinpoint anything specific about a world revamp or backside of Azeroth that fits in the image.

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Back to the topic of a world revamp. I know it's a meme, but what would Silithus look and play like in a world revamp? What kind of content would be good and justify the amount of lore surrounding the giant sword?

The Legion constructing a demonic city surrounding the sword and inside the sword could be cool. Make it a zone of Sargeras worship. We could see the Sargerai reform but with Azeroth races as opposed to just Draenei.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

You know, while we're all fantasizing about what we want, why don't we also prepare for the worst-case scenario? What's the most extravagantly awful thing you could expect being revealed for 11.0?

The Legion constructing a demonic city surrounding the sword and inside the sword could be cool. Make it a zone of Sargeras worship. We could see the Sargerai reform but with Azeroth races as opposed to just Draenei.

I like that idea. Maybe some conflict between the Denathrius and Sargeras factions?

[Woggmer]

Back to the topic of a world revamp. I know it's a meme, but what would Silithus look and play like in a world revamp? What kind of content would be good and justify the amount of lore surrounding the giant sword?

That depends... is there still Azerite coming out of the wound? If so, then I can see Gallywix or the Venture Co setting up shop like oil wells trying to harvest as much Azeriite as they still can.

It would also be interesting to see that stuff having an effect on the nearby Silithid and the stuff in Ahn'Qiraj.

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I mean, the path laid out in front of us is we bring Tyr back and he's our buddy, and then Iridikron returns with Xal'atath next expansion as the baddies and we help the Titans get rid of him. How exciting is that? Having a 'surprise' Tyr wants us dead is better I think.

The other big reason why I don't see Tyr being evil is because we already faced off against an "Evil Tyr" from the Dawn of the Infinites dungeon.

There has been rare instances where they brought back an evil character boss and be like "Wouldn't it be cool to fight them again with an even cooler fight?" Though this do years in advance, not within the same expansion. So Blizzard would probably want to wait to build up something around Tyr being evil (as in right before our eyes and not stuff he did in the past.)

The way I view it, is that if the Elemental Planes are open and all the elementals come pouring out into Azeroth (aka Revamp-o'clock) then the Titan keepers will have to restart the Ordering just to get everything under control.

[Zers Editor]

Happened to Vyranoth, happened to the Infinites, will happen to Tyr, if that.

Some sort of conflict, even a relatively short one, will be there. But yeah, it tried to make clear, even when bringing attention to the dark sides of Tyr, that neither the Aspects nor Tyr himself are indifferent to each other.

[milkmustache]

You know, while we're all fantasizing about what we want, why don't we also prepare for the worst-case scenario? What's the most extravagantly awful thing you could expect being revealed for 11.0?

Elemental expansion.

Half kidding. Maybe a repeat of Dragonflight in the sense of new singular location, detatched from factions and racial groups or in general the "Warcraft" feeling. Dragonflight has been really nice, but I don't think it can be done again. Team Revamp obviously. I just think that to keep isolating the rest of the world and shuffling players into new zones that lack some sense of familiarity is getting to be a bit much. Don't need a faction war, but at least like... talking about the factions would be nice. For a 5 year time jump and "relative peace", we really don't know much about whats going on with the two things that are most recognizable in the game.

[Xilurm]

You know, while we're all fantasizing about what we want, why don't we also prepare for the worst-case scenario? What's the most extravagantly awful thing you could expect being revealed for 11.0?

Shadowlands 2.0. I don't know what that means, yet. But I'll know it when I see it.

[Pyrophax]

Back to the topic of a world revamp. I know it's a meme, but what would Silithus look and play like in a world revamp? What kind of content would be good and justify the amount of lore surrounding the giant sword?

Fuse Amirdrassil with sword.
Or wake Azeroth and she will pull it from her arse.

[Woggmer]

For a 5 year time jump and "relative peace", we really don't know much about whats going on with the two things that are most recognizable in the game.

Actually, if you also take into account of everything from Legion up until now. Lots of things happened in that span of time that it would need a whole revamp to cover everything. Heck we don't we even know how badly Lakeshire's current state is after the Scourge attack in Shadowlands... it wasn't just one guy, but several people including the blacksmith that died... and it wasn't just a small wave of undead either, it was a lot of ghouls attacking all at once.

[Sondrelk]

That depends... is there still Azerite coming out of the wound? If so, then I can see Gallywix or the Venture Co setting up shop like oil wells trying to harvest as much Azeriite as they still can.

It would also be interesting to see that stuff having an effect on the nearby Silithid and the stuff in Ahn'Qiraj.

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The other big reason why I don't see Tyr being evil is because we already faced off against an "Evil Tyr" from the Dawn of the Infinites dungeon.

There has been rare instances where they brought back an evil character boss and be like "Wouldn't it be cool to fight them again with an even cooler fight?" Though this do years in advance, not within the same expansion. So Blizzard would probably want to wait to build up something around Tyr being evil (as in right before our eyes and not stuff he did in the past.)

The way I view it, is that if the Elemental Planes are open and all the elementals come pouring out into Azeroth (aka Revamp-o'clock) then the Titan keepers will have to restart the Ordering just to get everything under control.

Would be nice to see Ahn'qiraj being given a makeover. At least partially because I am curious whether they will make it a Titan facility, or an Old God one. The ziggurats and what not seem to be a feature of both Titan Uldum, and Ny'alotha.

[Super Dickmann]

You know, while we're all fantasizing about what we want, why don't we also prepare for the worst-case scenario? What's the most extravagantly awful thing you could expect being revealed for 11.0?

I'd say Mists 3: Revolutions, but that'd be a lie, I badly want to see that plot yet again but with the current (absolute) state of the Horde.

[Cheezits]

What's the most extravagantly awful thing you could expect being revealed for 11.0?

Ka'resh. Would basically be Shadowlands 2.

Backside of Azeroth with no Revamp would also be rough.

Plotwise? Horde Council abolishes back to Warchief Lor'themar.

[Sondrelk]

You know, while we're all fantasizing about what we want, why don't we also prepare for the worst-case scenario? What's the most extravagantly awful thing you could expect being revealed for 11.0?

Any random planet only tangentially mentioned somewhere. K'aresh being a good example.
A full expansions worth of somewhere we have no connection to, whose only redeeming quality is that it looks kinda neat for the first few weeks it takes to get used to it.

[Magistrate]

They had already lost their power in Cata when that happened. I'm not sure if that is the reason Xavius was able to corrupt her so easily or not.

Oops, yep. Good counter.

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Any random planet only tangentially mentioned somewhere. K'aresh being a good example.
A full expansions worth of somewhere we have no connection to, whose only redeeming quality is that it looks kinda neat for the first few weeks it takes to get used to it.

I absolutely want argus level content for other planets to flesh out the universe but to your point I don't think I'd ever want an entire expansion in such a place until we get a lot more connective lore tissue to it.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Ka'resh. Would basically be Shadowlands 2.

Any random planet only tangentially mentioned somewhere. K'aresh being a good example.

Honestly, can't say I agree. The difference between K'aresh and the Shadowlands is that the former has had much more time to stew in the mind of the playerbase and connects tangibly to existing threats (i.e. the Void), and it's associated with a fairly well-liked race that's existed since Burning Crusade. I could see it working, myself. It's also worth noting that part of what made Shadowlands so awful was that the worldbuilding was just utterly terrible and made the First Ones look like absolute morons for putting together such an ineffective system. I don't think a "cosmic" expansion would be inherently bad if it maintains a strong thematic connection to Warcraft, is well-written, and doesn't just feel like a feature from a different franchise lazily shoved into Warcraft's IP.

[Sondrelk]

I'd say Mists 3: Revolutions, but that'd be a lie, I badly want to see that plot yet again but with the current (absolute) state of the Horde.

The Horde Council unilaterally decides to actively genocide the Nelves, starting by nuking Hyjal.
Tensions rise as our Lord and Savior Anduin returns from his journeys to prove how the Horde needs another chance.