The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[KurtMash]

The azerite ceiling cave zone could work, make it glow yellow in the morning and blueish at night, make it full of vegetation and wildlife that has lived due to the azerite, for another zone they can also add 2d art ceiling similar to Elden Ring but with the cosmic void thingies instead of the star, and lastly make the other zone more like its a fresh cave that has been mined either by goblin gnomes or a titan base or qiraji pathways whatever. there could even be a cave zone with a sealike thing as the crater of azeroth. The zones could also be connected in a circle shape 3d and all that signifying we are in the crater.

...and of course there would be a zone with a massive void tear in the ceiling, so it would look like we're in space.

[Catastrophy349]

Pretty big F IMO. New quests in Emerald Dream available on PTR...

[Santandame]

Well for one both Zandalar and Nazjatar were big draws for a South Seas. But even then you still have Kul Tiras and Broken Shore mentioned as a likely part of it. People said South Seas, but what they always meant was "all the various islands between EK and Kalimdor".

And yes, customizable ships were not a thing in BfA, but island hopping was. Island expeditions are exactly the randomly generated islands you are talking about. It was done terribly, but the point still stands.

All you ahve left are the auxillary islands that were mentioned as filler to the big important locations. Plunder Isle maybe, but Tel'Abim? That island is only known for a brief bit of funny text regarding possibly sentient bananas. If you count that as a major draw then you might as well just make stuff up entirely. The only thing Tel'abim has is the recognizable name.

Also, Tel’Abim has recently been referenced in Dragonflight as the location where Nightsquall stores his riches; with anyone going there to steal it meeting a deadly end. So there’s clear intent there to seed it for future content in some form.

[Sondrelk]

Pretty big F IMO. New quests in Emerald Dream available on PTR...

Alright? I'll bite.

[Teriz]

Sure, but they also concieved the Dragon Isles as a dragon shaped peninsula north of Tirisfal, and look what we have now.

Yes, they made it BIGGER than what it was originally. The same applies for Broken Isles, Kul Ti'ras, and Zalandar. Why would they suddenly decide to REDUCE the size of a landmass? Just because its Goblin-controlled?

Also you don't need to have Undermine be technically controlled by the Bilgewater Goblins, just have it be their main hub. Wouldnt be the first time a faction city isnt fully controlled by the faction.

That doesn't follow the lore of the location though. The Trade Coalition is not a part of the horde, and is arguably more powerful than the Horde (and the alliance) so it would be bizarre to have their landmass be a faction hub for just the horde. Undermine is a cosmopolitan city with denizens from all over Azeroth. It wouldn't be closed off from the alliance races, because that would be bad for business.

It would make far more sense from a lore perspective to have both the Alliance and the Horde have hubs on the continent like every other continent in WoW.

[Sondrelk]

Yes, they made it BIGGER than what it was originally. The same applies for Broken Isles, Kul Ti'ras, and Zalandar. Why would they suddenly decide to REDUCE the size of a landmass? Just because its Goblin-controlled?



That doesn't follow the lore of the location though. The Trade Coalition is not a part of the horde, and is arguably more powerful than the Horde (and the alliance) so it would be bizarre to have their landmass be a faction hub for just the horde. Undermine is a cosmopolitan city with denizens from all over Azeroth. It wouldn't be closed off from the alliance races, because that would be bad for business.

It would make far more sense from a lore perspective to have both the Alliance and the Horde have hubs on the continent like every other continent in WoW.

Because lots of stuff gets changed in production. Also, we know where Undermine is, it's under Kezan, which is an island we can already see on the map. For your theory to hold true then Kezan would have to somehow quintuple in size, if not more. It would also have to move far enough south it would crash into Pandaria.

[Teriz]

Gazlowe "merging with" the Bilgewater may be a hint that the Goblin Cartels are going to unionize anyway, so they would eventually all work out of Undermine.

Nah, Gazlowe wasn't a trade prince, he just owned Rachet and a few other locations. He became a trade prince when Gallywix ran away. His cartel is nowhere near powerful enough to sway the other trade princes to push the trade coalition to join the horde exclusively.

[Cheezits]

Pretty big F IMO. New quests in Emerald Dream available on PTR...

By accident?

[Revamp Man]

Yeah, hopefully, he is just pranking again.

With that said, I'm not saying that a Revamp is the most likely, just that fully underground expansion feels like suicide, and even another Shadowlands based in another cosmic plane would be more well received.

A full revamp will never never happen
Underground expansion is definitely possible. I get titan facilities are always underground idk why but it's a thing even if boring

We know iridikron wants to draw the Titans to Azeroth and there arev2 possible ways we know of
1. A beacon like the disc's
2. Azeroth waking up

[Teriz]

Because lots of stuff gets changed in production. Also, we know where Undermine is, it's under Kezan, which is an island we can already see on the map. For your theory to hold true then Kezan would have to somehow quintuple in size, if not more. It would also have to move far enough south it would crash into Pandaria.

Uh no. Undermine is underneath Kezan, which means it can be several magnitudes larger than the mass above it. Here's an example using a glacier under a similar principle;

[Santandame]

IF it is an underground expansion next, which I just can’t see happening; then I imagine the zones would be the following:

- Undermine, with a district being reserved for expansion capital.
- Khaz Algar
- Wow’s take on the Underdark
- Uldaz
- A Nerubian/Aqir zone
- Possibly the Barrow Dens

I still think we’re looking at Avaloren/Other side of Azeroth as most likely with the below being the most likely if not:

- Revamp
- South Seas
- Void invasion

Then I’d say we get into the likes of underground, Lifelands, ancient Kalimdor, Yrel, K’Aresh.

[huth]

Uh no. Undermine is underneath Kezan, which means it can be several magnitudes larger than the mass beneath it. Here's an example using a glacier under a similar principle;

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That's an iceberg.

But the point is moot anyway since WoW cares about as much about scale as that iceberg cares about any passenger ships driving towards it.

[Cheezits]

Saying "Blizzard wouldn't turn Kezan into a giant continent" ignores what they did to Kul Tiras.

[Revamp Man]

I think the Harbinger wants to resurrect a 5th Old God, or the 'Ancient One'. In fact, that might be what the 'awakening' is about, not the world-soul.



Rise, rise! Our Queen calls to us from beyond the Umbral Veil. She has transcended the Circle of Stars and basks in her eternal grandeur!

The time we have long awaited is nigh.
This is obvious. Azshara is now a powerful agent of the Void, and she's once again making moves.

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Pay attention to the punctuation there
Azshara is basking in someone else's glory

Xal is coming baby!!!!!

[Teriz]

That's an iceberg.

Well then here's an example of a volcanic island like Kezan;



Again, the majority of the mass is underwater.

[Sondrelk]

Saying "Blizzard wouldn't turn Kezan into a giant continent" ignores what they did to Kul Tiras.

Kul Tiras was made into half a continent, let's not overstate what happened. They still attempted to act like it was an island. And for that matter, I am convinced they only made it into two large islands because they wanted to avoid complaints of zones being disconnected.

And besides, Kezan is already an interractible island on the map. It would have to be fully underground to even remotely make sense to increase the size.

[Catastrophy349]

Personal opinions aside for a “potential” underground expansion, one of FF14 Endwalker’s zones is underground and you can’t even tell (by its design).

I could honestly care less what 11.0 is about/looks like, I will play it no matter what because I’m a WoW shill.

[Throren]

That's an iceberg.

You do realize islands dont float right? And connect to the ocean floor/earth's crust and what you see above water is just a tiny portion of it. Islands are just underwater mountains who's tallest peaks just poke up above water. The iceberg analogy still sorta works as they are indeed waaay bigger under the water than above

[Teriz]

And besides, Kezan is already an interractible island on the map. It would have to be fully underground to even remotely make sense to increase the size.

Uh Undermine IS fully underground. We're talking about Undermine, not Kezan.

[Santandame]

Kul Tiras was made into half a continent, let's not overstate what happened. They still attempted to act like it was an island. And for that matter, I am convinced they only made it into two large islands because they wanted to avoid complaints of zones being disconnected.

And besides, Kezan is already an interractible island on the map. It would have to be fully underground to even remotely make sense to increase the size.

Blizzard don’t care about that because they went against the entire idea of disconnected zones with the very next expansion in Shadowlands.