The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

Kinda skipped one there buddy

Yeah, it would be rather difficult to create a sequel to MoP. That expansion's story is pretty confined to Pandaria.

[Khaza-R]

Yeah, it would be rather difficult to create a sequel to MoP. That expansion's story is pretty confined to Pandaria.

If you could pluck out the heinous Sylvanas story arc then BfA is very much a recycle of MoP's themes.

Catalyst event leading into a faction war, Jaina's character development, Old Gods, Zandalari, and even going back to Pandaria in 8.3.

[Teriz]

If you could pluck out the heinous Sylvanas story arc then BfA is very much a recycle of MoP's themes.

Catalyst event leading into a faction war, Jaina's character development, Old Gods, Zandalari, and even going back to Pandaria in 8.3.

Very good points. I suppose the “sequel” to MoP is handled then. That strengthens the possibility of a Yrel invasion expansion.

[Joszef Kiprich]

In what way is DF an Cataclysm sequel? The elementals?

[Super Dickmann]

Baine being traumatized by being a centaur abductee and hating centaur and most importantly not learning his lesson for sure by the end is probably the most interesting thing to have happened to his character since he was a defense attorney.

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It will be simply weird not to have Odyn return at some point in Dragonflight tbh.

I dread this because it'll be to kill him.

[Teriz]

In what way is DF an Cataclysm sequel? The elementals?

And the dragon aspects along with the connections to Deathwing.

Perhaps "sequel" is too strong a wording. Maybe more like a thematic and conceptual mirror?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Baine being traumatized by being a centaur abductee and hating centaur and most importantly not learning his lesson for sure by the end is probably the most interesting thing to have happened to his character since he was a defense attorney.

It appears to be a natural development after being lobbed off a five-foot overlook by a bald man and sitting, presumably non-ambulatory, in the middle of Oribos for the entirety of two years.

[Cheezits]

Looks like the 10.1 zone name may have leaked. Spoilers!

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...C46ZDGhJstAAAA

[Super Dickmann]

It appears to be a natural development after being lobbed off a five-foot overlook by a bald man and sitting, presumably non-ambulatory, in the middle of Oribos for the entirety of two years.

Driven mad by being too spineless and weak to successfully kill an unconscious woman Baine has regressed to his childhood while simultaneously amusing himself by reading the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Maraudon.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I dread this because it'll be to kill him.

On one hand, it would bring me immense pleasure to do so. Conversely, it would also permanently dispose of one of the few passably interesting characters left in the narrative and continue to cement the general trend of reducing the cast exclusively to the most banal, one-dimensional cardboard cutouts of people, whose flavor and texture is consistent with their cardboard composition. Most authors may be interested in upholding Odyn for a teensy bit longer and try to give him a complete arc, but I'd guess that Blizzard is more inclined to the former option.

Baine has regressed to his childhood while simultaneously amusing himself by reading the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Maraudon.

It's one of the few talents he's ever cultivated. At the very least, doing positively nothing of importance and being kidnapped by Centaurs ensures he remains recognizable in his current state as the same person from Warcraft III, which is more than can be said for most of the main cast.

[Super Dickmann]

On one hand, it would bring me immense pleasure to do so. Conversely, it would also permanently dispose of one of the few passably interesting characters left in the narrative and continue to cement the general trend of reducing the cast exclusively to the most banal, one-dimensional cardboard cutouts of people, whose flavor and texture is consistent with their cardboard composition. Most authors may be interested in upholding Odyn for a teensy bit longer and try to give him a complete arc, but I'd guess that Blizzard is more inclined to the former option.

In general my preference would be keeping characters like Odyn (and his counterpart Helya) basically perpetually alive. For a world to feel large it must have constant entities and if anything has really scalped WoW it's going through basically every established character and concept and tying them up in a bow. Lack of resolution for non-pressing issues means they can be used for future story fuel.

It's one of the few talents he's ever cultivated. At the very least, doing positively nothing of importance and being kidnapped by Centaurs ensures he remains recognizable in his current state as the same person from Warcraft III, which is more than can be said for most of the main cast.

Genuinely in shock. As a long-time advocate for how Baine is completely unsalvagable, my mind isn't changed, but my main premise has always been that it'd be much easier to just characterize a new character than deal with his baggage. In this case, they've actually constructed a story that hinges on Baine's background in a way no other character would manage. Also Baine never interacting with a centaur before means that him being upset about the people who hunted his people for sport and hurt him personally isn't a retcon. If anything the weak link of this story is that the Maruuk are so fucking boring and that reasonable tauren trepidation of them is the most interesting thing to have come out of them.

[Sondrelk]

Looks like the 10.1 zone name may have leaked. Spoilers!

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/16...C46ZDGhJstAAAA

Ehh, it being the zone name seems like just one option among many. Could be a mega-dungeon, subzone, or even something instanced. Could even be the 10.1 raid for all we know.

[Gurahk]

I hope they keep Baine being somewhat wary of centaurs. Big doubt though.

[Dracullus]

I'm pretty in dark about next patch, but noticed Elemental Overflow will have even more rewards. We will have new sources for it or better start grinding invasions again?

[Cheezits]

I'm pretty in dark about next patch, but noticed Elemental Overflow will have even more rewards. We will have new sources for it or better start grinding invasions again?

Enemies will be dropping it in the Forbidden Reach.

[Makorus]

I'm pretty in dark about next patch, but noticed Elemental Overflow will have even more rewards. We will have new sources for it or better start grinding invasions again?

Rares in the Forbidden Reach drop up to 1k on the PTR.

[Dracullus]

Rares in the Forbidden Reach drop up to 1k on the PTR.

Nice. Invasions are worst part of DF and I've done all achievs, so I guess I'll wait for patch.

[Kiivar86]

Rares in the Forbidden Reach drop up to 1k on the PTR.

Oh that makes me happy to hear, I really don't care for farming them in the invasions or that future area.

[Revamp Man]

Yeah, it would be rather difficult to create a sequel to MoP. That expansion's story is pretty confined to Pandaria.

Yeah because an expansion where 90% of tge story had connections with Titans and old gods and had us give wrathion powers of a titan keeper is just a story about pandaria

[Teriz]

Yeah because an expansion where 90% of tge story had connections with Titans and old gods and had us give wrathion powers of a titan keeper is just a story about pandaria

TBF, that's most WoW expansions.

Also as said earlier, that's pretty similar to what happened in BFA.