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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Well yes because they're former allies and have never been raid-level antagonists before. It's something new. We've already beaten Azshara on her home turf, then we went on to body her master. It's crazy that people want to do it again because of some story quirk.

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    Because Shadowlands showed that people are tired of shadow/void/undead stuff.
    The issue with SL was the shit story. World wise, I think the issue was how all the zones were their own little realms. Made traveling a bitch and felt too disconnected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houle View Post
    Because nobody except lore nerds like us gives a shit about Karesh, especially since the revamp hype is higher than ever rn (wether thats the fault of Blizz or the players themselves is a different question). Its not a "killer" but it would definitely be a disappointment to a lot of people.
    If that was the case then MoP would have been DoA.

    People will care if they do karesh justice, and the art team usually does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    That's a pretty cool design, unsure if it's fake.

    All the zone pictures look like Nathreza/K'aresh which would be a definite WoW killer. I feel like I've seen them before though.
    I personally disagree with the sentiment, I don’t think setting alone would make/break the game.
    Shadowlands would’ve done great in the same setting if it had a halfway decent story and didn’t have the myriad of gameplay issues.

    Though the post that followed those images did say they “looked like island expeditions” so maybe they’re not fully fledged zones.
    Could be something akin to the legion invasion points/time rifts?
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    what exactly makes Dwarves an underground race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    The issue with SL was the shit story. World wise, I think the issue was how all the zones were their own little realms.
    The problem is that SL came after N'Zoth patch, so for players it was just an extension of more shadow stuff. Some people are obsessed with shadow-based content, but not every player wants a steady diet of shadow over and over again. Doing an entire shadow/void expansion after 8.3, Shadowlands, and the bit of void we got in Aberrus would be a mistake. It's almost becoming a crutch for Blizzard and it's time to bring some new aligned villains into the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    If that was the case then MoP would have been DoA.

    People will care if they do karesh justice, and the art team usually does.
    MoP wasn't DoA because it was something fresh after TBC, WotLK, and Cataclysm. At the time nerds bristled at it, but now in retrospect its considered one of the best expansions Blizzard has ever done.

    Why? Because it was something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    For most players Shadow magic is just shadow magic.
    Most players aren’t blind and can tell that this:


    Is different from this:

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    In all honestly, I don't care on the conceptual state of the expansion moreso than the business decisions coming down the pipeline.

    I can accept any concept if there is no bad business decision announcements during Blizzcon but its going to be a lot harder if the business decisions surrounding WoW Retail after Opening Ceremony are abysmal and the concept is not resonant with the audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Most players aren’t blind and can tell that this:
    Is different from this:
    Nice try;



    That pic from 8.3 resembles the bottom image, and if you ask a casual player what recent expansion that comes from, they'll more than likely say Shadowlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Wonder where the "Veilstrider" FOS for Dragonflight is?

    And what the title will be?
    I mean, it's got to be Dragonrider, right? That's sort of our expansion title and I don't believe we've been given the ability to earn that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post



    That pic from 8.3 resembles the bottom image, and if you ask a casual player what recent expansion that comes from, they'll more than likely say Shadowlands.
    It really doesn’t look like anything Shadowlands. You’re just stretching.

    But regardless it’s looking like the void is happening after all. Thankfully it’s not a cringe Yrel LiGhT BaD expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    It really doesn’t look like anything Shadowlands.
    You’re just stretching. But regardless it’s looking like the void is happening after all.
    Thankfully it’s not a cringe Yrel LiGhT BaD expansion.
    We'll see. In the end, it would be a HUGE mistake if they did a void expansion.

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    It was very hard to see Iridikron's speech with the activation of the Harbinger not being the next expansion and setting off the next (at least) 2 expansions with the Megadungeon speech.

    Danuser isn't going to relinquish anything. Metzen most likely is Classic affliated than anything to do with retail since its Danusers ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We'll see.
    wowexdev/scaleface hasn’t been wrong yet.

    In the end, it would be a HUGE mistake if they did a void expansion.
    In your opinion. Legion has shown Blizzard can successfully do cosmic stuff if they wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    We'll see. In the end, it would be a HUGE mistake if they did a void expansion.
    A light invasion expansion would be virtually the same as a void invasion expansion. Despite what many players believe the old gods & void lords are two largely unrelated factions with their own independent goals, they just use the same kind of magic.

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    I've lurked these threads for years is Teriz EVER right?

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    I've lurked these threads for years is Teriz EVER right?
    Yes but does it matter?

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    I've lurked these threads for years is Teriz EVER right?
    Regrettably yes. My sig is born of doubting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    A light invasion expansion would be virtually the same as a void invasion expansion. Despite what many players believe the old gods & void lords are two largely unrelated factions with their own independent goals, they just use the same kind of magic.
    I disagree. Look at this thread; People are saying we're going to either an Argus-looking zone with different colored Dreadlords, or under the sea to fight Azshara and an old god again. Both retreads on previous expansions.

    We've never faced an antagonistic Draenei and naaru force that were aligned with the light. So yes, it would be something different, because we are set on the mentality that the Light=Good. Such an expansion would turn that paradigm on its head.

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    I think anything but Revamp was a bust in the diaspora of World of Warcraft fan mindspace. Especially since content creators turbo-charged it into the "boom or bust" scenario at Blizzcon.

    So yeah, Blizzard pushing Danusers plot through even though it will just again lead us to a non conclusion with the World Soul. Its a bit strange, ain't it.

    But I assume they've got something else to announce alongside it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydrache View Post
    I've lurked these threads for years is Teriz EVER right?
    He’s only been right when there’s been overwhelming evidence for something. Like datamining, major leaks, or lots of community speculation.
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    I think if they were to do a light expansion it would couple with void. Put us in the middle of 2 celestial superpowers. I do like the idea of a light invasion maybe because I love legion so if it followed the same pattern. Invasion-pushback-enter their world then I'd be down

  20. #18860
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    wowexdev/scaleface hasn’t been wrong yet.
    Where are you getting it from that they're the same person?

    Scaleface and wowexdev (used to be wxd on MMO-C) are entirely different people as far as I can remember.

    Edit: hmm...
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