The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

I never said that as the avatar of Azeroth she would usher in a Void Lord invasion, reading comprehension, or just stop being dishonest. I presented them as two separate ideas. I imagine in the scenario where she becomes Azeroth’s avatar she would be content just ruling over us and the planet, not backed up by any “masters”.

And again how do we defeat an Azshara who has the power of the most powerful titan around?

Why would defeating the void lords mean the end of WoW? We have to fight them at some point. Was defeating Sargeras the end of WoW? There are other villains to fight, such as the 7th force The Jailer fears or even the First Ones if it came to it. I’m sure @Cosmicpreds would be happy.

Because the Void lords are the creators of the Old Gods which are themselves extremely powerful. It starts to become absurd when we're fighting multiple Void lords who the titans themselves couldn't stop. So by the time you get to that point, you might as well end the game, because if you're beating multiple god-creating Void Lord, whacking a level 85 wolf just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's already starting to get weird because we beat N'Zoth very quickly.

[Santandame]

And again how do we defeat an Azshara who has the power of the most powerful titan around?

How did we defeat Argus and The Jailer?

[Santandame]

Because the Void lords are the creators of the Old Gods which are themselves extremely powerful. It starts to become absurd when we're fighting multiple Void lords who the titans themselves couldn't stop. So by the time you get to that point, you might as well end the game, because if you're beating multiple god-creating Void Lord, whacking a level 85 wolf just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's already starting to get weird because we beat N'Zoth very quickly.

The Void Lords have been said to be weaker than the Titans though. It’s a Void Lord corrupted Titan they fear.

Teriz, I don’t understand. You are literally a walking, talking contradiction. You’re on record to say we shouldn’t fight Azshara because we’ve already beaten her and that she’s allegedly beneath our power level. Now you’re claiming we shouldn’t be fighting Void Lords because it’s a ridiculous power creep, even though we’ve fought Titans and Eternal Ones.

Make it make sense, stick to an actual argument.

[Cheezits]

Azeroth or not, I will honestly be shocked if the next expansion theme is solely Void without Titanic or Light antagonists as well. But that seems to be what the Scale gang is implying.

It is interesting that they are saying Void and Towellie said Underground/Underwater. The sword could be the one thing connecting them?

[Valysar]

This does not look like wowish at all

[Santandame]

The Void Lords never feared the Titans. They were just jealous of their power, which most likely is talking about the Titans power over the Mortal realm.

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"We shouldn’t fight the Void Lords cause it's a ridiculous power creep"

My bluds never met the Jailer

They don’t fear them but they’re implied to be weaker. They can only corrupt world souls, they can’t corrupt fully grown Titans. That alone implies the difference in power level.

The Dark Titans corrupted by the Void Lords whilst as a slumbering world soul are a different matter though

[newchampion]

Can't post link since it's a new account but was watching mrgm on twitch and he saw someone on twitter with the name twitter.com/ wowexdev, the pictures reminded me on this leaker earlier mmo-champion. com/ threads/ 2641020-World-of-Warcraft-Empire-of-Void-10-3-and-Beyond. We will see the upcoming days if this is the real leak or no, based on what the name is in the trademark.

[Santandame]

Azeroth or not, I will honestly be shocked if the next expansion theme is solely Void without Titanic or Light antagonists as well. But that seems to be what the Scale gang is implying.

It is interesting that they are saying Void and Towellie said Underground/Underwater. The sword could be the one thing connecting them?

I’d be more willing to put stock in Scaleface than Towellie. Though, I would prefer what Towellie is selling over Scaleface.

[Woggmer]

https://twitter.com/wowexdev/status/1696868579587576092

Is this the sword?

Edit: I believe wxd/wowexdev leaked Legion, so even if not Scaleface he's got sources.

Kinda gives me Kingdom Hearts vibes....

Let me guess... Iridikron opens the Door to Darkness that leads to K'aresh by kidnapping 7 Princesses of Light (Moira, Calia, Talanji, Tyrande, Nakha, Anduin [yes, he counts], and Yrel).. and we have to seal it before the Hear-- I mean.. Void Lords invade our realm and we have to seal it with the Key-like weapon they gave us in the Secrets of Azeroth event.

Joke theory aside, it doesn't look like Silithus.. so I doubt it is the sword. Plus it looks too small to be the Sword itself, if anything it looks like a portal of some kind. Either that or Sargeras had OTHER swords he put into other planets and this is just one of them.

[Well Done Steak]

Can anyone link bigger shots of those pics? Can't see them on their Twitter page

[Marlamin]

Can't post link since it's a new account but was watching mrgm on twitch and he saw someone on twitter with the name twitter.com/ wowexdev, the pictures reminded me on this leaker earlier mmo-champion. com/ threads/ 2641020-World-of-Warcraft-Empire-of-Void-10-3-and-Beyond. We will see the upcoming days if this is the real leak or no, based on what the name is in the trademark.

We've been talking about this for a few pages now, where do you think MrGM got it from?

Can anyone link bigger shots of those pics? Can't see them on their Twitter page

There aren't any bigger shots of the "thumbnails", that's part of what makes me suspect AI art is in play.

[Kiivar86]

There aren't any bigger shots of the "thumbnails", that's part of what makes me suspect AI art is in play.

Similar to taking a photo of a screen, helps cover up issues and the like.

I'm inclined toward AI as well if only for that.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Just a reminder on the Trademark thing: Both Shadowlands and Dragonflight did not receive Trademarks. If a Trademark shows up it would mean its a very unique name for the expansion.

So if a Trademark does show that does put more legitimacy on wowexdevs' content because they would've known that a Trademark could be filed for the expansion.

I doubt there will be a Trademark it seems Blizzard has found one word names as a loophole to not necessitate a registration and still be in the clear legally from a potential conflict. (IANAL)

But yeah, if there is a filing we are definitely due for one if it is a unique name.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

The pictures just can be a hint for the theme.

[Woggmer]

I don’t doubt that Gallywix will be used as a threat again, and I hope he is. I love his character. But arguing that he would be a more compelling expansion level threat than Azshara is definitely something.

As for Azshara, my preference would be what you said. Or her absorbing power from Azeroth’s world soul and becoming her avatar for lack of a better term.

Or maybe something like she absorbed the powers of the Nightwell and the Sunwell and uses a mix of Elisande and Kael'thas magic... to where she has governing control of both Space and Time at once.

[huth]

https://twitter.com/wowexdev/status/1696868579587576092

Is this the sword?

Edit: I believe wxd/wowexdev leaked Legion, so even if not Scaleface he's got sources.

Pretty sure that's a different sword and not Silithus.

[Marlamin]

Just a reminder on the Trademark thing: Both Shadowlands and Dragonflight did not receive Trademarks. If a Trademark shows up it would mean its a very unique name for the expansion.

So if a Trademark does show that does put more legitimacy on wowexdevs' content because they would've known that a Trademark could be filed for the expansion.

I doubt there will be a Trademark it seems Blizzard has found one word names as a loophole to not necessitate a registration and still be in the clear legally from a potential conflict. (IANAL)

But yeah, if there is a filing we are definitely due for one if it is a unique name.

Legion (and I guess the rest since) got filed on the same day as announcement so it's not really them not needing to register it but just them registering it on the day of announcement instead.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Legion (and I guess the rest since) got filed on the same day as announcement so it's not really them not needing to register it but just them registering it on the day of announcement instead.

Interesting, so essentially I just don't see this happening at all for multitudes of reasons. I was under the impression they were filed 2 months prior for filings and am surprised to hear that Legion was filed same day as Gamescom.

[Marlamin]

Interesting, so essentially I just don't see this happening at all for multitudes of reasons. I was under the impression they were filed 2 months prior for filings and am surprised to hear that Legion was filed same day as Gamescom.

It appears to be the same case for BfA but I'm not able to find Shadowlands or Dragonflight.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

WoD Trademark announced Pre-Blizzcon (7 Days): https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzar...draenor-223000


Mists Trademark announced Pre-Blizzcon (11 Weeks, 4 Days):https://www.gamespot.com/articles/bl.../1100-6326987/

Cataclysm Trademark (This sparked Trademark drama discussion lol) announced Pre-Blizzcon (7 Weeks, 3 Days): https://www.eurogamer.net/blizzard-trademarks-cataclysm

Considering how Legion was and how SL and DF completely ignored it I really doubt they will do this since it is such a known way to learn the name of the next expansion at this point and they are fully aware of it.

Unless again they intentionally file for the sake of hype.