The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Santandame]

That could be it. Would be an interesting approach to a world revamp. However, if the cave hints are true, a saronite-laden spectral gryphon may hint towards an expansion specifically oriented around Yogg-Saron, potentially in Azjol-Nerub.

Like GoldenYak’s Spider Kingdom concept. Though I do think if we get an underground expansion we should just have Azjol Nerub as one zone in a wider underground themed expansion along with Undermine, Khaz Algar, possibly Uldaz and a zone themed on the Underdark.

[Worldshaper]

It doesn't really look like what Void-affected stuff looks like, that tends to either be Old God-ish tentacles and stuff or more starry void like visuals.

This looks more like the next expansion is going to be WoW: Ravestar with an 80s Neon aesthetic.

I... I'd be down for that.

[Sondrelk]

That could be it. Would be an interesting approach to a world revamp. However, if the cave hints are true,—which I'm naturally skeptical about, but could be willing to accept given that we have had some build-up with the transition system used for Zaralek,—a saronite-laden spectral gryphon may hint towards an expansion specifically oriented around Yogg-Saron, potentially in Azjol-Nerub.

A world revamp would still need at least two solid endgame concepts to base raids around. So maybe one is Old God relate with Silithus for C'thun, and Vashj'ir for N'zoth.
Would fit caves, Ankoan, void, etc.

[Cheezits]

I think we're on to something here. The cave stuff is probably legit, but I doubt it's an entire expansion, and it runs counter to all the boats and water hints unless we are sailing to a cave (Kezan/Undermine). Even then... Jinyu for a cave expansion?

However, an expansion with Naga AND a big cave would work, and fits with Iridikron and the void antagonist set-up if we are getting zones themed to the Old Gods.

Also: cave + naga fit Cata theming if we are getting zones that are themed to the elements again.

[Teriz]

People should keep in mind that we might not get a new race next expansion. We didn't get a new race after Pandarens in MoP for example, and we just got the Dracthyr in Dragonflight.

That might also make a neutral Ethereal race in 11.0 unlikely.

[Cheezits]

People should keep in mind that we might not get a new race next expansion. We didn't get a new race after Pandarens in MoP for example, and we just got the Dracthyr in Dragonflight.

After we got a spec in a mid-patch I think anything can happen now. I'm mostly basing the race ideas off Jinyu in the files of 10.0 and the Broken hint in 10.1.7. And races are more likely than classes at this point.

[Santandame]

I think we're on to something here. The cave stuff is probably legit, but I doubt it's an entire expansion, and it runs counter to all the boats and water hints unless we are sailing to a cave (Kezan/Undermine). Even then... Jinyu for a cave expansion?

However, an expansion with Naga AND a big cave would work, and fits with Iridikron and the void antagonist set-up if we are getting zones themed to the Old Gods.

I’m sort of convinced by the Voidstorm leak. It has pretty much everything that fits based off what’s been datamined and leaked, where the story is heading and what seems to be relevant.

It features boats of which we’ve seen datamined, it references an underwater plus Undermine which Towellie has hinted at as well as the terrarium. This was posted as a leak way before we got those hints too.

Also references Tel’Abim and Nightsquall which have both been seeded in Dragonflight, K’aresh; we have the eco domes datamined, plus Azshara as the main villain who has been referenced as working behind the scenes with the void in DF, plus whatever Iridikron’s doing.

As well as the main campaign featuring Thrall as the main character.

I just think it’s important to note that it references an underwater zone AND an underground zone, and was posted before we got the Towellie hints regarding content being underground and beneath water.

Of course it likely means nothing and is the same as any other leak, but it’s the one that makes the most sense to me and it sounds like an awesome expansion too.

[Raetary]

I'd rather they pull another Shadowlands and continue fleshing out customization of existing races.

And i can see them adding a handful of new specs to various different classes this time around, rather than adding a full new class.
Would be nice to have some more class archetypes filled.

[Teriz]

After we got a spec in a mid-patch I think anything can happen now. I'm mostly basing the race ideas off Jinyu in the files of 10.0 and the Broken hint in 10.1.7. And races are more likely than classes at this point.

We got the spec mid-patch because the class was always designed to have three specs. The third spec just needed more time for testing. So it coming later was a matter of necessity.

Along with necessity is the potential need for another support spec to give people options beyond Augmentation. This leads to the potential for new support specs or a new class with a support spec.

There's really no reason to introduce a new race at this point since we just got Dracthyr.

[Cheezits]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

The same tweet thread also shows that Jaina and Thrall may appear later on, which could be 10.2.5 stuff or post-Amirdrassil things to lead to the next expansion? Also some guys from Silithus.

[Santandame]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

Voidstorm let’s gooo

[AOL Instant Messenger]

After we got a spec in a mid-patch I think anything can happen now. I'm mostly basing the race ideas off Jinyu in the files of 10.0 and the Broken hint in 10.1.7. And races are more likely than classes at this point.

It's also worth noting that perceived patterns are pretty much meaningless in terms of expansion releases. Back before Shadowlands, everybody thought the usual pattern was that every second expansion added a new class, but this proved false. It's best to keep an open mind and look towards individual cues instead of larger patterns.

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I'd rather they pull another Shadowlands and continue fleshing out customization of existing races.

And i can see them adding a handful of new specs to various different classes this time around, rather than adding a full new class.
Would be nice to have some more class archetypes filled.

New specializations isn't a bad idea. I could get behind it. Still, I think we're likely to get new races—or at least new allied races—going off the Jinyu.

[Santandame]

It's also worth noting that perceived patterns are pretty much meaningless in terms of expansion releases. Back before Shadowlands, everybody thought the usual pattern was that every second expansion added a new class, but this proved false. It's best to keep an open mind and look towards individual cues instead of larger patterns.

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New specializations isn't a bad idea. I could get behind it. Still, I think we're likely to get new races—or at least new allied races—going off the Jinyu.

I need to be able to play as an Ankoan warrior immediately.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Voidstorm let’s gooo

I don't buy it. It sounds very disjointed and is too much unsubstantiated detail for a leak this early on in the cycle.

[lostsoup]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

The same tweet thread also shows that Jaina and Thrall may appear later on, which could be 10.2.5 stuff or post-Amirdrassil things to lead to the next expansion? Also some guys from Silithus.

what could this even mean??

[Teriz]

That's the same look Thrall has on the blizzCon '23 key art.

[Cheezits]

-big thrall-

That's the same look Thrall has on the blizzCon '23 key art.

They gave Thrall that look in BFA/Shadowlands. The Thrall on the key art actually has this model but with the colors shifted back to black and bright gold.

Thrall, Jaina, guys from Silithus/Shifting Sands, Naga and also the guys from Exiles Reach all being added seem kind of suspicious to me.

[Sondrelk]

I’m sort of convinced by the Voidstorm leak. It has pretty much everything that fits based off what’s been datamined and leaked, where the story is heading and what seems to be relevant.

It features boats of which we’ve seen datamined, it references an underwater plus Undermine which Towellie has hinted at as well as the terrarium. This was posted as a leak way before we got those hints too.

Also references Tel’Abim and Nightsquall which have both been seeded in Dragonflight, K’aresh; we have the eco domes datamined, plus Azshara as the main villain who has been referenced as working behind the scenes with the void in DF, plus whatever Iridikron’s doing.

As well as the main campaign featuring Thrall as the main character.

I just think it’s important to note that it references an underwater zone AND an underground zone, and was posted before we got the Towellie hints regarding content being underground and beneath water.

Of course it likely means nothing and is the same as any other leak, but it’s the one that makes the most sense to me and it sounds like an awesome expansion too.

Honestly, this is the kind of stuff that immediately puts me off a leak.
How fortuitous that the leak contains basically everything relevant from the current leaks, no matter how incongruous.

It would be like SL being heavy on Dragons, the Shadowlands, Galakrond, Infinite, having housing, and having a section dedicated to the escaped refugees from Draenor.
It would definitely cover it's bases in terms of what hints are correct, but damn if it wouldn't be a hit mess of an expansion.

[Worldshaper]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

The same tweet thread also shows that Jaina and Thrall may appear later on, which could be 10.2.5 stuff or post-Amirdrassil things to lead to the next expansion?

10.2.5 will definitely ramp things up for 11.0. We'll probably find out about the both of them at the same time (BlizzCon), so there's not really any need for Blizzard to hold back, storywise, in 10.2.5.

I could see the Naga from the Forbidden Reach (probably some Nazjatar crew sent on a special mission) making a splash (hehe) and a stir (okay I'll stop), just to tide (sorry) us over to 11.0.

I'm thinking about the Dark Heart part from the text, that might play into this?

[Woggmer]

what could this even mean??

Looks like Azshara is involved again. So, whatever Iridikron is going after might be the thing that Azshara is also seeking.