The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ImTheMizAwesome]

The other races definitely need a similar level of love that humans have gotten for customization. They got triple the number of face options in SL, on top of face shapes letting you further alter the look, meanwhile races like tauren and trolls still have 4-5 faces total. Dracthyr's individual eye color settings should be backported to the other races. It'd be great if facial scarring could be a separate setting as well.

Yeah, many races post WoD have really similar face styles.

I mainly play orcs and every face type for them almost looks the same, very wrinkled, mad and old. Some less "pissed off" and not that wrinkled faces similar to thrall, saurfang would be nice, but it's also a problem for many horde races.

[Jekyll]

If they are ever going to do Tinker, I think they will remove engineering as a profession. It's been very useless for a long time and I just can't see them coëxisting. Just like they reworked Demo lock to have Demon hunters.

agreed just like we have to remove enchanting if they make Mages playable.

[Nightshade711]

agreed just like we have to remove enchanting if they make Mages playable.

We also must remove herbalists we’ve got 2 classes that deal with plants.

[Revamp Man]

As much as I hate tge idea of Naga returning it looks like 10.1 will be Xal and Azshara doing stuff in the background at least which reminded me of something.

The concept of the dragon isles was originally that they were built on top of the body of an old god.

We are told it was yogg who's blood corrupted galakrond but what if it was the fifth's?

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so lets play the "what if Xal is the 5th OG" game
we know that her brothers tore her apart
we also know that the titans have not been honest about the old gods in the chronicles and other stories because of the fact they only mentioned 4 but we have in game acknowledgement of a 5th. We also know that they did not create everything.
yogg also doesnt have the powers similar to galakrond which would be undeath and constantly consuming which we have seen some of that with a certain dagger artifact weapon

so the chain of events COULD be
civil war with the old gods
Xal gets sealed by her brothers (we know she was torn apart and some of her ended up in the knife)
watchers make their move after this civil war has weakened the empire's forces
they make their constructs on Xal's remains
her blood corrupts galakrond
dragon stuff happens
neltharion gets corrupted by nzoth
the djaradin and the incarnates make a deal with Xal
fast forward
nzoth gets defeated but the whispers of the void just get more voices according to alleria
new book talks about naga queen returning from the umbral veil which we can assume is the same as where alleria would walk through on argus as we saw the queen leave through a void portal in the final bfa raid similar to the portal Xal left through in 8.1
now she knew about the dagger and the possibility of it being used to seal an old god (how would she know and who told her??)
if we look at the new line talking about aszhara coming back it talks about how she has been basking in her glory (or whatever) so it could be referring to a different "her"

now there is also talk about a harbinger which could be iridikron or it could be the lord of ravens Khadgar
who are the children of the first flesh?? well the curse of flesh is supposedly from yogg and the progenitor of proto dragons is galakrond so his "children" would be the 5 aspects and this line also talks about who they swore loyalty to.

alternatively it could also be talking about the djaradin who we know made a dark deal underground where only the elders know what really happened then they teamed up with iridikron.

10.1 will see us go underground and then the naga come to the dragon isles at least according to their plan. We also know that an old god who was completely freed already exists on azeroth in the form of the heart of ysharjj which idrc what we did with it after the raid and we dont know what Xal ahs been up to but we do know she liked gathering power.

[Teriz]

Haha yes. The Tinker or similar. It could also use a medic/ potion type based healer class, which could easily be a tinker healer spec.

There is also draeni based arcano crystal tech

Yeah, I doubt it’s going to be a hero class at this point. I have a feeling it’s going to be a base class available to several races like the Monk class. If Arakkoa are a new race next expansion, they could roll the class as well in a future expansion.

[Grimbold21]

A thought just randomly popped in my mind: Gates of the Setting Sun as a candidate for the M+ pool

[Makabreska]

A thought just randomly popped in my mind: Gates of the Setting Sun as a candidate for the M+ pool

They would need to add a cratpon o trash there. I think this place is the worst choice in terms of extra effort needed to make it M+ ready.

[Lady Atia]

They would need to add a cratpon o trash there. I think this place is the worst choice in terms of extra effort needed to make it M+ ready.

Why? RLP also doesn't have a "crapton o trash there" and it just works fine.

[Makabreska]

Why? RLP also doesn't have a "crapton o trash there" and it just works fine.

It is a new dungeon designed for M+. Look instead how much extra trash they added to TJS. And Gates originally had even less mobs than that in MoP. I think every other dungeon from that xpac is less problematic.

[Sondrelk]

It is a new dungeon designed for M+. Look instead how much extra trash they added to TJS. And Gates originally had even less mobs than that in MoP. I think every other dungeon from that xpac is less problematic.

Gates of the Setting Sun is kinda similar to RLP though. Both are effectively a hallway filled with mandatory trash. The main difference is really just that RLP has the big circle that gives the illusion of choice.

[Makabreska]

Gates of the Setting Sun is kinda similar to RLP though. Both are effectively a hallway filled with mandatory trash. The main difference is really just that RLP has the big circle that gives the illusion of choice.

How the interior design and pathways look like is really irrelevant here. We are talking about the mobs. If they had to put this much work to update TJS, I'm pretty sure Gates would require even more.

[Lahis]

How the interior design and pathways look like is really irrelevant here. We are talking about the mobs. If they had to put this much work to update TJS, I'm pretty sure Gates would require even more.

Why would they need to update it?

Dungeon has trash. Dungeon has bosses. Slap affixes on it and go.

[Grimbold21]

How the interior design and pathways look like is really irrelevant here. We are talking about the mobs. If they had to put this much work to update TJS, I'm pretty sure Gates would require even more.

I'd say that a dungeon's layout and the placement of trash mobs go hand in hand.

I'd say more work would go into redesigning fights. I know nothing about the process of adding more trash, but if one reduces it to its most simple parts, it's adding and defining routes.

TJS now has:
1 waterspeaker after the first 2 elementals
1 extra pack of 3 mobs before 1st boss
not sure about this one, but maybe 1 extra sha mob before the 2 pandas.
The big sha mob that patrols the circular area after 2nd boss
1 2mob patrol on the ramp leading to 3rd boss.
3rd boss area originally had 3 packs. now it has 4 in each corner plus the big sha in the middle
And then of course the 4 packs before last boss.

[Kellorion]

I don't ever want a class that will only be suited for 2 races and stuff like that.

If they ever decide to add another one, it should be like monks or DK where most of people favorite races can be one, and with tinkers i don't see other races than gnomes and goblins being able to be one.

maybe dwarves and vulpera, i guess

[ImTheMizAwesome]

The WoW community really needs to accept the new and stop taking refuge in the past.

I think you're the one that should accept other people opinions and not trying to force others to think your way because it's the "right "way" in your mind.

People are hyped and expect different things, customization is a big thing for many and many still play the OG races and want more customization options for their characters, AR aswell.
Character customization is one of the fundamental parts of this game, just like gameplay systems, one doesn't exclude the other.

If they add some skin tones that are already in the game for NPCs or hairstyles in that case, it doesn't mean that the dev team won't be working on gameplay stuff lmao.

Anyone has right to say what they want in the game and what interest them to improve their fun when playing the game, just because you don't like or want more customization options, doesn't mean that it's pointless.

[Makorus]

It doesn't surprise me that they take years to dare to offer new systems that fundamentally change the way of playing when I see the number of people asking hairstyles for their damn character instead of real novelties.

I don't know, a skin tone that you won't see because mogs really interest you more than a new race/class? wtf.

I'm not interested in refocusing on what we already have rather than enriching what we don't have. Who really wants a f*ck*n hairstyle when there's already been the wod revamp + allied races + new customizations. It's good. Move on.

The WoW community really needs to accept the new and stop taking refuge in the past.

Very true. Because as we all know, the people that add the new skin colours and hair colours are the same people that work on new gameplay systems.

Who the fuck even wants "new systems that fundamentally change the way of playing"?

[Revamp Man]

Give me stormstout, mogushan, skyreach, and arcway for s2

I want pain

[Sondrelk]

Give me stormstout, mogushan, skyreach, and arcway for s2

I want pain

I wonder how Skyreach would function in practice. I imagine the windy area would either be undertuned, or basically impossible on certain weeks.

[Grimbold21]

Give me stormstout, mogushan, skyreach, and arcway for s2

I want pain

Christ, skyreach is horrible

[Makabreska]

Why would they need to update it?

Dungeon has trash. Dungeon has bosses. Slap affixes on it and go.

Dunno man, ask them why they needed to update TJS this much. Or HoV, that received multiple nerfs. Or CoS, ID and GRD in SL S4. Do you even read these conversations?