The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[micwini]

Got nothing against the guy, but do any of you actually think that most of these Statements he's making hold any substance towards anything that's going to happen? Why should he, on his own, be allowed to throw out not hints, but actual insinuations to direction so abundantly. It's just weird. He's not gonna be Blizzards golden child of Streamers that gets extra privileges above all others and he's probably also not in the Loop on anything without signing something that'd partially prevent these kinds of Tweets (his Tweets on the Bcon Topic/Xpac/Classic+ in general).

My money is simply on his usual shenanigans where he's just fishing for MMOC Reactions. Bait people en masse, then open the site on Stream sometime, laugh at his haters, laugh at the ones that believe it and fuck off till next Season.

Attentionseeking, basically. Also says enough if he's laughing and pointing at people reacting to his comments in this thread on his stream instead of showing himself in this thread and actually engaging. But such is the way of the cowardly neckbeard.

[Hitei]

Sure, buddy.

"Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path."

"Five lanterns now darkened. The flames they seek will light the Masters' way."

*The Dragon Aspects, previously having lost their powers and had their Oathstones put out, arrive on the Dragon Isles and light up their five Oathstones.*

"As one storm recedes, another rises. The torches have been lit. The secrets he buried will strike as a dagger into the hearts of his kin!"

There's six oathstones though.

Attentionseeking, basically. Also says enough if he's laughing and pointing at people reacting to his comments in this thread on his stream instead of showing himself in this thread and actually engaging. But such is the way of the cowardly neckbeard.

He does show up in these threads. Literally only to praise himself though.

[Hitei]

The sixth is the Mother Oathstone, and it has not been relit as of the time of the Naga writing 'A Song of the Depths'.

It's written before anything that happens in DF. It's a prophecy speaking about all the events contained within as future things that have to happen before their crap begins.

[huth]

The sixth is the Mother Oathstone, and it has not been relit as of the time of the Naga writing 'A Song of the Depths'.

Neither had the other oathstones, so by your logic, it cannot refer to them. They didn't write it 3 seconds before you found it on the isle.

[Auxis]

The White Lady took Ysera's soul in Val'sharah, and it ended up in Ardenweald. Did we ever learn more about that?

Oh and it's pretty interesting that Draenor also has a similar thing going, with "The Pale Lady" and a smaller, darker moon beside it.

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Has that been proven, or is it another one of those things where we assume it fits something and then the next expansion it turned out to fit something else?

The cunning ones (dreadlords) kneel before Six masters (the dreadlords infiltrating the 5 other cosmological forces), but serve only one (Death/Denathrius).

[Hitei]

It's a bit unclear, imo.

It sounds like a mix of past and present tense. I think this part is before they arrive on the Dragon Isles:



While this is in present tense:



That said, I will grant you that you could be right. If the text was written entirely before they arrived on the Dragon Isles, as a sort of call-to-arms for all Naga, then the torches may refer to something other than the Oathstones.

That part can't be present tense.

The "primal power that seeks the end of Order" is very clearly the Primalists and Incarnates, and they're talking about them purely through second-hand hearsay "the harbinger speaks of". Which means they haven't encountered them at all or even confirmed their existence, just heard that they hypothetically exist.

[Reive]

what would you like to see next expansion in terms of features, theme, story?

[Hitei]

what would you like to see next expansion in terms of features, theme, story?

A second iteration of Torghast.

[micwini]

A second iteration of Torghast.

This. They should really try harder on getting a 1-5 player feature out that's not afraid to go wild while also providing challenge. Torghast started out good, but ended up getting more shit overtime (1-5 star rating, timer, etc). It was mostly fine if it wasn't forced as a weekly chore. It also lacked variation and they also put some restrictions on how many of certain buffs you could have which was a shame.

[zirr]

A second iteration of Torghast.

100% this. Torghast could have been great like MT. DF not having any of this feels like such a missed opportunity.. imagine if time rifts were something cool instead.

[Reive]

A second iteration of Torghast.

This. They should really try harder on getting a 1-5 player feature out that's not afraid to go wild while also providing challenge. Torghast started out good, but ended up getting more shit overtime (1-5 star rating, timer, etc). It was mostly fine if it wasn't forced as a weekly chore. It also lacked variation and they also put some restrictions on how many of certain buffs you could have which was a shame.

the og version of torghast (pre release) would be really good. maybe used as a way to lvl up or get gear.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

what would you like to see next expansion in terms of features, theme, story?

I would like some sort of weapon/fighting stance rework or just some new animations feature, that would fix some race literally having weapons and shoulders insider their heads when in fighting stance.

Also i think it would be cool if our characters didnt immediately go back to very rested stance when we just untarget the mob. ^^

Like let's say you hold your axe in your two hands for a while after killing a mob or other combat situation, like in some other games.

[Sondrelk]

what would you like to see next expansion in terms of features, theme, story?

World revamp. Focus on racial storylines. World events being more minigame, and less "kill X% elites".

Player housing could be fun if it allows us to collect all the environmental stuff from past expansions. Though I expect a big feature like that to take years to really come into its own.

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This. They should really try harder on getting a 1-5 player feature out that's not afraid to go wild while also providing challenge. Torghast started out good, but ended up getting more shit overtime (1-5 star rating, timer, etc). It was mostly fine if it wasn't forced as a weekly chore. It also lacked variation and they also put some restrictions on how many of certain buffs you could have which was a shame.

Torghast but with actual randomized areas that can look like anywhere could be fun.
My only gripe with it is that I don't know what it could give as rewards.

[Lolites]

what would you like to see next expansion in terms of features, theme, story?

well i wanted rework to specs with talent trees being divided into "subspecs" but i think they killed that idea with DF talents...
at least for now

i know its unlikely but id like at least one new class

A second iteration of Torghast.

id rather second iteration of horific visions

[Sondrelk]

id rather second iteration of horific visions

Horrific visions were always too stressful to me.

Honestly, rather than just Torghast, I think the devs should reconsider Island expeditions as well.
Remove the time limit, and instead focus more on randomized quests and enemies. I am sure that with the Torghast tech you could have all kinds of fun mini adventures.

[Scyth]

Put an orc on it is insteresting wording isnt it. Kinda confirms an orc heavy or at least thrall heavy exapsnio imo.

They will be daft to do that again imo and doubt they go with more orcs again. Can never tell anymore but I hope they don't

[Lolites]

Horrific visions were always too stressful to me.

Honestly, rather than just Torghast, I think the devs should reconsider Island expeditions as well.
Remove the time limit, and instead focus more on randomized quests and enemies. I am sure that with the Torghast tech you could have all kinds of fun mini adventures.

tbh more previous features would deserve iteration rather than being scrapped and fogoten...
scenarios, islands, torghast, visions, hell even warfronts or azerite neck...

[Santandame]

Slightly off topic but leans into a hope for next expansion. The general consensus always seems to be that WoD has the best levelling content but I’m levelling a character now through Zandalar for the first time since BfA launch and I’ve just been reminded of how good the BfA zones were for levelling and story. Much better than WoD imo. Hopefully we see a return of something similar in 11.0 because in my opinion this is the peak of modern WoW’s levelling content.

[Teriz]

Got nothing against the guy, but do any of you actually think that most of these Statements he's making hold any substance towards anything that's going to happen? Why should he, on his own, be allowed to throw out not hints, but actual insinuations to direction so abundantly. It's just weird. He's not gonna be Blizzards golden child of Streamers that gets extra privileges above all others and he's probably also not in the Loop on anything without signing something that'd partially prevent these kinds of Tweets (his Tweets on the Bcon Topic/Xpac/Classic+ in general).

My money is simply on his usual shenanigans where he's just fishing for MMOC Reactions. Bait people en masse, then open the site on Stream sometime, laugh at his haters, laugh at the ones that believe it and fuck off till next Season.

Love it or hate it, he’s been the strongest leak we’ve had this season. A underground expansion simply lines up strongly with the evidence we have at hand. The alternative is a bunch of clearly AI pics that point to an expansion that wouldn’t make much sense with the evidence, or the fallout after Shadowlands.

[Lolites]

The general consensus always seems to be that WoD has the best levelling content

i dont think it ever was consensus...
i think consenus was that leveling was best (or second best to raids) part of wod, but thats mostly bcs there was not much else

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Love it or hate it, he’s been the strongest leak we’ve had this season.

its literaly imposible to say who was "strongest leak" until we have actual confirmed expansion to "compare" it with leaks...