Am I the only one NOT looking forward to Murzond's unveiling?

[Mace]

I know it's odd, I really was hoping the whole thing would either be covered in a book or a side thing. Knowing Nozdormu becomes this now has you second guessing his every decision - I would actaully find it better if the unexpected happened, and actaully it didn't blow up into some huge thing and we have another "flight" war - so far we've seen the red's decimated (WC2), the blacks ofc, the blues (WotLK & WotA trilogy), the Greens in the classic quests and we know the bronze spawn the infinite flight /shrug

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

I don't mind him being in it but I just hope he doesn't end up as the final boss cause we already schooled him without much help before. I'll rather him bring something crazy out of time and space for us to fight like a reality where Galakrond is alive and infused with elements similar to his Hearthstone version. Or better yet bring Y'shaarj in somehow. Imagine a phase of the boss where you have to fly around the gigantic massive old god serpent that is Y'shaarj. There's also the Ancient One a hearthstone card that still has the highest stats today 30/30 so seeing that would be cool. If Murzond does become the final boss than he better have some powerup or be way stronger than his other version, Deathwing, and even Raszageth.

[Aucald]

I'm hoping they employ some time-based shenanigans to bring about Murozond in a way we don't expect - not the typical "dragon gets corrupted and becomes their own antithesis" story we've had over and over with Neltharion and Malygos. I'm hoping that even Nozdormu himself is surprised and dismayed by the way Murozond comes to be, perhaps in a manner that doesn't involve him directly becoming Murozond, but Murozond being an alternate self that somehow assumes the mantle of the Aspect of Time in his stead, perhaps at the moment Alexstrasza restores the Mother Oathstone.

It'd be an interesting subversion of Nozdormu's own seeming omniscience if the foretelling of his own death, the event that he's more or less defined his life by, doesn't exactly occur the way he envisions due to missing and/or obscured context.

[Amariw]

My biggest peeve is that its beyond predictable, its said outright. A big appeal of MMO story for me is a gradual uncovering of mysteries. So far we already know the primalists hate titan magic, and we know murozond will be a big bad, possibly final boss.

That doesn't leave much to the imagination. The only interesting thing i'm still curious about is if the primalists have a good reason to hate titan magic. I tried to avoid beta spoilers so i don't know the answer, but i think its fair to expect more mystery then that alone in an entire expansion.

[Aucald]

The only interesting thing i'm still curious about is if the primalists have a good reason to hate titan magic.

I don't want to spoil it for you outright, but the answer based on some data-mined and in-game material is that yes, there will be more to the Primalists rationale and their hatred of the Titans.

[Amnaught]

I know it's odd, I really was hoping the whole thing would either be covered in a book or a side thing. Knowing Nozdormu becomes this now has you second guessing his every decision - I would actaully find it better if the unexpected happened, and actaully it didn't blow up into some huge thing and we have another "flight" war - so far we've seen the red's decimated (WC2), the blacks ofc, the blues (WotLK & WotA trilogy), the Greens in the classic quests and we know the bronze spawn the infinite flight /shrug

The entire point of this expansion is to rebuild the flights.

Calling it right now: Nozdormu lets himself become Murozond specifically so the other dragons would defeat him and regain their Aspectral powers. Because of some looming "Greater Threat", lol.

[Makabreska]

Ye well, announcing over 10y ago that you will go bad and then following through is just boring. Knowing that, and with how much more Murozond foreshadowing we keep getting, I expect a twist.

[Khaza-R]

I just hope they keep more in line with the original depiction of the Infinites. They were never crazy like most other villains in early WoW. They seemed to have a rational goal of preventing certain things in the timeline from occurring. Even if those reasons have been obscured to us. I would rather Murzond become a nuanced antagonist rather than someone who just wants to undo the timelines or something stupid.

[Raven]

Am i the only one that look forward to see the shitshow on forums when it turns out people are wrong and last boss isnt Murozond.

[8bithamster]

Am i the only one that look forward to see the shitshow on forums when it turns out people are wrong and last boss isnt Murozond.

Same here. The entitlement will be amazing "omg blizzard lied! Murozond would be the final boss because my headcanon says so! Blizzard sucks"

[Aucald]

Am i the only one that look forward to see the shitshow on forums when it turns out people are wrong and last boss isnt Murozond.

It's open-ended enough that I doubt there will be a huge shitshow - there are always people upset over hedging their bets, or simply a crowd who needs to be always upset all the time, but all in all I think when the ultimate reveal happens the reaction won't be overly bad.

Unless they pick just the absolute worst end-boss of all time, that is.

[LordVargK]

I agree with you. For me personally Murozond's story was dealt with in Cata. Also WoW's writers are not even remotely capable enough to write sensible time travel stories, as we have seen in WoD (well, and Cata). It's best to leave the Bronze Dragonflight alone and only to use them as storytelling devices in dungeons like caverns of time.

[loras]

It really depends on how it's handled.
The funny thing about the Nozdormu/Murozond thing is that while the former is close to omniscient the latter will always know just as much and more. The same applies to their mortality, or rather the complete lack thereof due to the nature of time magic.

It'll take a skilled writer to pull off something that's even just passable, so i can definitely see why one might not look forward to it.

[Biomega]

Am i the only one that look forward to see the shitshow on forums when it turns out people are wrong and last boss isnt Murozond.

It'll at best be a "JRPG twist" thing, where the thing you've been propping up as the ultimate adversary is just the penultimate boss, and the REAL boss is some Bigger Bad. That's 100% what I expect for this, since it seems incredibly obvious.

It doesn't take a genius brain to guess the story progression, since Blizzard isn't exactly known for its narrative originality. We know Murozond is coming, we also know it'll be defeated, and we know the only reason Nozdormu would willingly become Murozond is because of a Bigger Bad. They won't do much more with this other than the immediately obvious, because, well, they never do.

How many times have we gone "but what if all this is actually...!" during an expansion, and it NEVER happened. It was always face-value, straight-up, completely obvious stuff. Sargeras didn't destroy Azeroth, and Azeroth didn't come alive to defeat Sargeras. N'zoth didn't trap us all and make an entire expansion turn out to be an illusion. The Jailer wasn't secretly a good guy that we all simply misunderstood. It was all exactly what it looked like, and ended exactly how we expected: big bad defeated, all's well that ends well. Over and over and over again.

[Karreck]

Am i the only one that look forward to see the shitshow on forums when it turns out people are wrong and last boss isnt Murozond.

It's going to be a shitshow no matter who the final boss is. This is MMO-Champ. All the malcontents and self-righteous blowhards will rage post all over these forums about how *insert character here* is a terrible end boss, wow is dead, and Blizzard personally spat in their faces.

[Swnem]

Trust Chromie. We will save Nozdormu. Maybe save all those infinite dragons too.

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My biggest peeve is that its beyond predictable, its said outright. A big appeal of MMO story for me is a gradual uncovering of mysteries. So far we already know the primalists hate titan magic, and we know murozond will be a big bad, possibly final boss.

That doesn't leave much to the imagination. The only interesting thing i'm still curious about is if the primalists have a good reason to hate titan magic. I tried to avoid beta spoilers so i don't know the answer, but i think its fair to expect more mystery then that alone in an entire expansion.

Murozond won't be the final boss. I'm certain of it. He will be a mid tier boss or a story beat.
Final boss will be Galakrond. The proto dragons are the villains of this xpac. Razgath brothers will be released and will revive Galakrond somehow. Corpse was removed from Dragonflight and what other enemy would fit 5 big ass dragons fighting? Has to be something bigger.

I don't think Chromatus will even appear.

[MCMLXXXII]

Chromie will become the leader of the Infinites in stead of Nozdormu.

[Aucald]

Chromie will become the leader of the Infinites in stead of Nozdormu.

It definitely does seem like that's what Nozdormu means, despite already having an heir-apparent in Anachranos.

[Fabled]

I don't mind him being in it but I just hope he doesn't end up as the final boss cause we already schooled him without much help before.

I'd say using the literal Sands of Fate that is Nozdormu's Hourglass to alter time as the fight goes on to be more than "not much help". Not to mention the road to even getting there to find and stop him took two previous dungeon diving scenarios with the help of another powerful Bronze dragon.

[Ealyssa]

Am i the only one that look forward to see the shitshow on forums when it turns out people are wrong and last boss isnt Murozond.

Last boss will be Iridikron