Bored after 2 months of DF

[VMSmith]

Of course it is, and there avenues to progress your character. Thing is, you refuse to do it. Thats a player issue, not game issue.

Well, i refuse to play gameplay i do not like (currently). Which is raids and mythic+. And i should be allowed to do so.

Now, I'm not saying @crusadernero is guilty of this ... but I find it so ironic that when confronted with casual/WQ/solo players who want methods to advance their power so many raider/M+ types will say "The rewards are there, you just refuse to do that content. That's your problem". And, predictably, so many of these same people when confronted by things like Titanforging or BiS trinkets in LFR or Artifact Power or whatever gives power in the content they don't want to do will screech about how they're being "forced" into the content they don't want to do.

[enigma77]

How would that help? People would still be bored, but kept on grinding patch after patch. If people are already tierd of the gameplay, AP or titanforging wont help. Its still the same stuff, but it forces you to keep playing.

Honestly, thats probably why Blizzard and wow has lost players over the years. Think about it for a second. Ever since Legion and all the way to SL, there was some sort of AP/leggo/TF grind that told you to keep on going. Xpac after xpac, patch after patch. Grind grind grind. At a certain point, people just dont become bored of the game, they start to actually hate & despise it. As such, the chances of them coming back are lower and lower. The game has made ppl bitter and angry and left a sour taste, instead of "Hey, this was cool for a while. Now im a bit bored, but i'll be back later for sure".

Theres literally NOTHING wrong with getting bored and find yourself without anything worthwhile to do(for you), after a couple of months into a xpac/patch.

I have no reason to log in, because I can no longer get items or upgrades.

Therefore the game sucks.

If I can't get items/player power upgrades, the game sucks.

Titanforging and AP would give me items and player power upgrades to chase.

And no I do not play and will not play alts.

[Shockzalot]

I was bored after 2 months of BFA. I was unsubbed 2 months into SL. I'm still having fun with DF and nearing up gear capping my DK before beginning to play around with my Druid alt more. I'm happy gearing up my DK through M+ and not having to raid to have a competitively geared char. Looking forward to 10.0.7

[NordWitcher]

As spacetroll quoted me, and I said exactly in my post: orb farming.

The bulk of the money came from glowing titan orbs. I knew that come raid release, new weapons meant enchants. I held on to almost 40 orbs and sold em. Made over 500k simply from that. I literally sold every single thing I got while the prices were high. I'd say 50-60% of the 25 tokens was orbs, the rest was everything else that would sell. I was farming signets and marks and holy fuck do I ever regret doing that. Shoulda been an orb farmer the entire time. Could have easily cleared 50 tokens doing that.

Where do you get orbs from?

[Lei]

Now, I'm not saying @crusadernero is guilty of this ... but I find it so ironic that when confronted with casual/WQ/solo players who want methods to advance their power so many raider/M+ types will say "The rewards are there, you just refuse to do that content. That's your problem". And, predictably, so many of these same people when confronted by things like Titanforging or BiS trinkets in LFR or Artifact Power or whatever gives power in the content they don't want to do will screech about how they're being "forced" into the content they don't want to do.

I love how you acknowledge these players as outdoor casual and solo players and in the other half of your sentence you present them instanced, hard/"hard" group content as alternative. Hilarious. I wonder how this conversation continues.

[crusadernero]

Now, I'm not saying @crusadernero is guilty of this ... but I find it so ironic that when confronted with casual/WQ/solo players who want methods to advance their power so many raider/M+ types will say "The rewards are there, you just refuse to do that content. That's your problem". And, predictably, so many of these same people when confronted by things like Titanforging or BiS trinkets in LFR or Artifact Power or whatever gives power in the content they don't want to do will screech about how they're being "forced" into the content they don't want to do.

But the rewards are there to obtain. Thats the point. wow has always done it this way, were ok gear is obtained from dungeons(except m+) and world content. If you wanted to progress beyond that, theres arena, m+, raids or proffessions.

What do you think would happen if WQs gave progressivly better and better gear? People would just do that instead of group activities. Clearly Blizzard prefers people coming together in grps to obtain better gear, as per the MMORPG formula. If I want the rep & rewards from the factions in DF, I gotta do world content either I want to or not. I cant do m+ and farm rep, cosmetics and mounts from them. Blizzard has given me a way to obtain it, and its up to be if I want to engage with it.

TF & good trinkets is another discussion as I see it. Personally, never really cared that much about it either. It did bring some degen gameplay, but thats probably a player issue more than anything else.

I highly suspect many in this thread just want a 100% solo wow experience from lvl 1 to max and once they reach endgame they still want nothing to do with others. All the while obtaining good gear that always gets better and better. From activities such as collecting flowers, fishing and dragon race.

Theres lots and lots of stuff to obtain and work for in this game. The gameplay and features are there for anyone to obtain. Now, if a players cant be bothered with it, I see no reason to bitch and moan about it when they took an active choice not to engage in the content.

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I have no reason to log in, because I can no longer get items or upgrades.

Therefore the game sucks.

If I can't get items/player power upgrades, the game sucks.

Titanforging and AP would give me items and player power upgrades to chase.

And no I do not play and will not play alts.

Welcome back in 10.1.

[Runicblood]

"I play every world of warcraft patch and hate them all, and even though i know i hate the game i feel that I absolutely must play every new patch just to tell people on mmo-champ about how bad it was and how it managed to keep me busy for 2 months, while hating every second of it. (way more than the moneys worth in game hours really) and whenever blizzard drops a 6 month sub mount I can't resist the temptation of not buying it, only to cry about it also on mmo-champion because otherwise i would not have paid for those months, only being glued to my character and alts for 2 months max.
I have like NOTHING to do or NOTHING to chase after, wtf is there even to do in this game after 2 months of grinding m+ and gearing up to the point where i feel like i've reached a pinnacle after which it's either too hard for me to progress further or I just feel burnt out of the current content?!?!?!?" - Literally everyone on this forum.

If a game keeps you busy for even a week it's worth the money. How are you all so ungreatful. How long do you expect a patch to keep you busy? You jump in, see what's new, get your times worth in game hours spent and activities done, grind out your ksm or aotc or whatever casual andy stuff you want to do, get bored, take a break until next patch. This is the cycle of WoW, always has been. I don't think i've ever fully played a patch start to finish, and i'm certan atleast 75% of the playerbase does the same (yes random statistics taken out of my arse, i know you lot love those).

I don't get why you guys even come back to the game if it's SOO BAD . Oh, right, you do it to whine on mmo-champion about how bad the time you spent in azeroth was and how magical it was back in wotlk or mop or whatever nostalgia patch you have on your mind from 15 years ago.

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This reeks of nostalgia tinted goggles

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I have no reason to log in, because I can no longer get items or upgrades.

Therefore the game sucks.

If I can't get items/player power upgrades, the game sucks.

Titanforging and AP would give me items and player power upgrades to chase.

And no I do not play and will not play alts.

Is it really wrong to feel like you have accomplished your goals and have "finished" a patch rather than having a carrot on a stick that taunts you infinitely? I feel great when i reach the point where I consider that i "finished' the game / current content.

[enigma77]

Is it really wrong to feel like you have accomplished your goals and have "finished" a patch rather than having a carrot on a stick that taunts you infinitely? I feel great when i reach the point where I consider that i "finished' the game / current content.

YES! Because I want to play the game, but unless I play alts (which I don't like) I have nothing to work towards anymore. Well nothing that I care about anyway, sure I could go do achivements or some stuff but I love getting gear and power.

It feels so bad knowing that no matter how many dungeons I do in a week I still have a 0% chance of getting an item lvl upgrade out of the actual dungeons, like what the hell.

[Alroxas]

I have no reason to log in, because I can no longer get items or upgrades.

Therefore the game sucks.

And I guess that's YOUR opinion which is perfectly acceptable. But others would say that an infinite grind (a la Legion or BFA) is also makes the game suck because you can never actually reach an end-point without FOMO on the next upgrade however small it may be.

[Runicblood]

YES! Because I want to play the game, but unless I play alts (which I don't like) I have nothing to work towards anymore. Well nothing that I care about anyway, sure I could go do achivements or some stuff but I love getting gear and power.

It feels so bad knowing that no matter how many dungeons I do in a week I still have a 0% chance of getting an item lvl upgrade out of the actual dungeons, like what the hell.

Good luck finding anything that will keep you forever busy

[enigma77]

Good luck finding anything that will keep you forever busy

It was called Legion.

And it was glorious. Never unsubbed, never took a break. Over 1000 Eye of Azshara keys alone over the course of the expansion.

Those were the good days.

But alas, Blizzard prefers to design a game for people who want to quit the game.

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And I guess that's YOUR opinion which is perfectly acceptable. But others would say that an infinite grind (a la Legion or BFA) is also makes the game suck because you can never actually reach an end-point without FOMO on the next upgrade however small it may be.

You bet it's my opinion. And I stand by it. Removing titanforging/AP made the game worse for me. And for many others too, I know several players in my guild who feel the same way and are currently moaning about there being nothing to do (except raidlog).

Blizzard should not alienate players who want to actually keep playing their game. They should throw us a bone at least and bring back a less powerful version of TF/AP. Like putting the "Very Rare" items into mythic + dungeons.

[crusadernero]

"I play every world of warcraft patch and hate them all, and even though i know i hate the game i feel that I absolutely must play every new patch just to tell people on mmo-champ about how bad it was and how it managed to keep me busy for 2 months, while hating every second of it. (way more than the moneys worth in game hours really) and whenever blizzard drops a 6 month sub mount I can't resist the temptation of not buying it, only to cry about it also on mmo-champion because otherwise i would not have paid for those months, only being glued to my character and alts for 2 months max.
I have like NOTHING to do or NOTHING to chase after, wtf is there even to do in this game after 2 months of grinding m+ and gearing up to the point where i feel like i've reached a pinnacle after which it's either too hard for me to progress further or I just feel burnt out of the current content?!?!?!?" - Literally everyone on this forum.

If a game keeps you busy for even a week it's worth the money. How are you all so ungreatful. How long do you expect a patch to keep you busy? You jump in, see what's new, get your times worth in game hours spent and activities done, grind out your ksm or aotc or whatever casual andy stuff you want to do, get bored, take a break until next patch. This is the cycle of WoW, always has been. I don't think i've ever fully played a patch start to finish, and i'm certan atleast 75% of the playerbase does the same (yes random statistics taken out of my arse, i know you lot love those).

I don't get why you guys even come back to the game if it's SOO BAD . Oh, right, you do it to whine on mmo-champion about how bad the time you spent in azeroth was and how magical it was back in wotlk or mop or whatever nostalgia patch you have on your mind from 15 years ago.

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Sums it up perfectly. Getting a couple of months out of each patch is good enough. if someone are getting bored or feel "finished" after 2-3 months,thats fine. Theres content to do and keep going, but if nothing of that is of interest - just unsub for a while.

Literally nothing wrong with it. Maybe the game is not supposed to be played 24/7 every week, all year long.

After I reached 2k m+ rating on my hunter, i've felt somewhat "done" with DF. I dabble with alts, mostly just getting them to 70. I will keep the sub though cause I raid 1-2 times a week with my guild and its so fun doing it with cool people. Beyond that, I play less now than a couple of weeks ago. And thats fine.

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It was called Legion.

And it was glorious. Never unsubbed, never took a break. Over 1000 Eye of Azshara keys alone over the course of the expansion.

Those were the good days.

But alas, Blizzard prefers to design a game for people who want to quit the game.

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You bet it's my opinion. And I stand by it. Removing titanforging/AP made the game worse for me. And for many others too, I know several players in my guild who feel the same way and are currently moaning about there being nothing to do (except raidlog).

Blizzard should not alienate players who want to actually keep playing their game. They should throw us a bone at least and bring back a less powerful version of TF/AP. Like putting the "Very Rare" items into mythic + dungeons.

Whats stopping you from doing 1000 m+ runs in DF? Nothing.

[enigma77]

Whats stopping you from doing 1000 m+ runs in DF? Nothing.

The fact that I can't get any meaningful upgrade.

I have 420 ilvl, dungeons drop 415 (with valor upgrade). Therefore dungeons are useless.

I didn't do Eye of Azshara 1000 times because I had nothing to gain. I did it 1000 times because I was farming the Titanforged Artifact Weapon Relic and some other stuff.

[crusadernero]

The fact that I can't get any meaningful upgrade.

I have 420 ilvl, dungeons drop 415 (with valor upgrade). Therefore dungeons are useless.

If you have 420 ilevel now, you aint the average wow player. Not even slightly close. Not by a looooooong shot. You want AP & TF, gameplay mechanics that esentially promotes unhealthy & degen behaviour.

Dont even bother coming with "I play 15 minutes a night doing m+ 25 keys with friends, so I dont play alot". Getting 420 ilevel requires some skill & time investment, something most players dont have or want to bother with.

Besides, soon a minor patch comes out. 10.1 is probably coming in april, about max 2 months time. If you decided to go hard early from DF and do everything you wanted to do in good time before next patch, cool!

Its much, much better to have wow were you can feel "finished" instead of always chasing upgrades.

I have no idea why you favour AP grinds so much. The content now is the same, but you can choose to do it or not. With AP, a player couldnt.

[Mojo03]

I thought it was enjoyable for a couple months. The foundational fixes were a plus.

I haven't played in a month and have zero desire to play anymore, until maybe the next big patch (maybe)

I don't have any confidence in this dev team to implement interesting content that isn't ultimately just another seasonal gear treadmill, which feels like a giant waste of time to me. They're hellbent on M+ and raiding being the end all be all for WoW. Both are kind of a nightmare to do in their current iteration, without having a core group of people to play with and in the case of raiding, blocking off 2-3 entire nights a week (no thanks)

Paying $15 a month when that's the only content that gets any real care and energy, just isn't worth it for me at all. Makes zero sense.

They've always had the foundation to do cool things with this game and they just don't.

They seem to just want to make easy money off people with inferiority complexes and too much free time.

[enigma77]

If you have 420 ilevel now, you aint the average wow player. Not even slightly close. Not by a looooooong shot. You want AP & TF, gameplay mechanics that esentially promotes unhealthy & degen behaviour.

Dont even bother coming with "I play 15 minutes a night doing m+ 25 keys with friends, so I dont play alot". Getting 420 ilevel requires some skill & time investment, something most players dont have or want to bother with.

Besides, soon a minor patch comes out. 10.1 is probably coming in april, about max 2 months time. If you decided to go hard early from DF and do everything you wanted to do in good time before next patch, cool!

Its much, much better to have wow were you can feel "finished" instead of always chasing upgrades.

I have no idea why you favour AP grinds so much. The content now is the same, but you can choose to do it or not. With AP, a player couldnt.

I do play a lot yeah. So? I still wanna enjoy the game.

Blizzard should not just appeal to players who want to be "done" with the game. They should also make the game fun for those who want to have a reason to log in even 3 or 4 months into a patch and still have a realistic chance to get a meaningful upgrade on their main character instead of having to stop playing that character because there's no point anyway, you can't get anything anyway, how lame is that?

I don't want to feel like I've "finished" the game. I want exactly the opposite. Hell, the appeal of WoW to me always has been and the very reason I started is because I wanted an "infinite" game. To me Legion will always be the greatest expansion ever. It was pretty much everything that I wanted out of this game. I guess I can look foward to Legion Classic in like 6 years, huh?

[crusadernero]

I do play a lot yeah. So? I still wanna enjoy the game.

Blizzard should not just appeal to players who want to be "done" with the game. They should also make the game fun for those who want to have a reason to log in even 3 or 4 months into a patch and still have a realistic chance to get a meaningful upgrade on their main character instead of having to stop playing that character because there's no point anyway, you can't get anything anyway, how lame is that?

What are you talking about? DF is GREAT with alts and if someone comes in 3-4 months into the xpac/Patch. Now you literally level up, hit up dungeons then raid. Its one obstacle; Gear. Thats it.

Previously? Farm currency for legendary. Then farm currency for two legendaries. Then grind AP, this grind doesnt really stop. Then grind rep for certain factions cause Player power is hidden behind it. Then grind more AP. THen grind WQs cause leggo might drop.

Now you log in and can do what you want.

Previously you had to log in, do stuff you didnt really want to do, and after thats done you could actually do what you wanted to do. It didnt matter if you wanted to do m+, raid or arenas. You had to grind AP. YOu had to grind the legendaries. It was not a choice not to do it. It was a forced choice.

BTW - you aint really "done" with this game no matter what. In progression ways(player power), sure you might reach a BIS list, but if you do months before next patch - you are a tiiiiiiny minority that plays the game like that.

[Gorsameth]

I highly suspect many in this thread just want a 100% solo wow experience from lvl 1 to max and once they reach endgame they still want nothing to do with others. All the while obtaining good gear that always gets better and better. From activities such as collecting flowers, fishing and dragon race.

Theres lots and lots of stuff to obtain and work for in this game. The gameplay and features are there for anyone to obtain. Now, if a players cant be bothered with it, I see no reason to bitch and moan about it when they took an active choice not to engage in the content.

Mortalblow, complaining about nothing to do, literally started a thread to whine about having to do a normal mode dungeon to complete a zone campaign and how an MMO should accommodate his 100% solo playtime. So yes your right.

[Rageonit]

I'm in the "bored, nothing to do" boat. And it's coming from someone who actually enjoys raiding and m+...

BUT - and it's a big BUT - I also enjoy having inconsequential things to do when I log, to simply chill/unwind. Like farm some anima to upgrade my covenant; try to overcome one of the Bastion arena challenges; or just get an additional level of my BfA neck. Some goal to pursue that doesn't require me to group up, because I'm not in a mood to group up. DF has none of that, sadly (esp. after being done with Renown, which is not really exciting anyway). WQs feel so samey it's not funny at all (feels like 80% of it is just dragonriding racing/fishing for Tuskarr). Sieges/community soup is one huge spamfest to even hit a single thing before it falls over. The world is beautiful, but it also feels... dead and empty. You log in after reset, and the map is full of the exact same things you did last week, with very, very little variety. SL had so much more things to do. I know lots of people hated it (because they felt it's mandatory and spammed things like Thorgast on every single alt, cause they were afraid they will "miss out" on things); but I enjoyed it, because I did it only when I wanted to, and at least I always had the OPTION to do it. DF has no options at all.

[enjoy76]

Been playing WoW since launch all these years, and it's a fav game of mine obviously. But I've had my off times and addicted times to the game, but all these years I typically still play nightly if just for 30 to 45 minutes.

Use to Raid and play [H]ardcore from MoP through Legion, playing hours a night, but those times are gone.

Anyways, Dragonflight, was so excited to get a new expansion after Shadowlands, which I found depressing and lame, and so far DF is an upgrade and feels fun and looks great. But...2 months later after Dragonflights release, I'm getting bored already. My main is iLvl 391, and I have another at i360+, and several alts in the level 60+ level range. But right now, I just feel stuck in a rut in the game, not interested in getting my main any higher gear at this point, I'm happy enough doing M+10, but not higher, and I stopped Raiding long ago.

My alts, I was progressing getting most of them to level 65 or so, but now it feels like a grind to push them to all to 70.

I know there's the patch today, which will help give something new to do, which is great for WoW, they need mini patches like this often. Because without today's patch I prob would unsub for a bit.

I would say the last expansion I was truly addicted to and LOVED was Legion, that one had so much to do outside of just Raids, the Class Halls, the artifact weapon appearances, the Class mounts, I felt like I always had something to do in Legion.

Thing is, I do like Dragonflight, it's beautiful to look at, and I am enjoying it, but I feel like I hit a wall of boredom quicker than usual in a new expansion.

easy play wow classic