Bored after 2 months of DF

[FelPlague]

The rep buff is gained on low, so he already had it, and it still took him 2 hours to medium, while one shotting entire groups of mobs.
You're so full of shit, man.

You know what else is funny? According to wowhead, going from zero to medium requires 1200 rep, and from medium to high 2400 rep.
So in your math, doing 1200 rep takes 2 hours, and doing 2400 after that takes 1 hour. That's funny.

Reminder, your words not mine, you are the one who claimed getting 1200 means getting another 1200 should take the same amount of time, while I pointed out you get buffs that make that next 1200 easier to get, which means yeah, it will be earned faster.
mate, you have been wrong time and time and time and time again, reminder you said

Also, it was 3 hours before Blizzard nerfed the respawn rate to the ground.

when even you self admitted, a solo player can get pretty close in just 2 hours, post nerf, and I showed you no, it took less then an hour pre-nerf.
Drop it, you keep getting things wrong, again and again and again.

[Rageonit]

means getting another 1200 should take the same amount of time, while I pointed out you get buffs that make that next 1200 easier to get

It's not another 1200, it's 2400. Going from medium to high is double the amount you need to go from zero to medium.
And he tells me to do my research I'm sorry, you're not full of shit, you're just a slow thinker.

[FelPlague]

It's not another 1200, it's 2400. Going from medium to high is double the amount you need to go from zero to medium.
And he tells me to do my research I'm sorry, you're not full of shit, you're just a slow thinker.

oh would ya look at that, you finally got one. good for you!
got confused cause you kept moving your goalposts and changing your point.
first it was 3 hours pre-nerf to get, then this, then that, then this other thing.

[Rageonit]

oh would ya look at that, you finally got one

That you're a slow thinker? Hell yes I got that one right.

[Lordofbelbol]

If you only have fun by numbers going up and being on top of a list of other numbers, then that my friend is literally the same as the “permagrind” you so much hate.

You’re clearly NEVER going to understand or see reason that you are 1- addicted to the game, 2- don’t want to keep playing but can’t stop because of said addiction and 3- refuse to see reason when others point it out to you then I’m sorry to say nobody really cares…..we like it and we are all going to keep playing it and if you hate what it is now so much then just stop…..but you can’t because you’re addicted…so you won’t. Instead you’ll just keep hating the game and telling everyone how bad it is and how much you hate it and they should hate it too

Yeps, i always say this the people who whine constantly in these forums prior to expansion are the first ones to buy it

[Zorachus]

and hunts
and air drops
and event rares
and primal storms
and storms fury
and the siege
and treasure hunting

mate you got you who can't get a single thing right and gaidax who confuses 4 with 5. not doing yourselves very well here.
seriously trying to argue shadowlands had more enjoyable world content then dragonflight.
I did not think we would already hit the honeymoon phase where people go "shadoelands was actually pretty great" so quick, but guess people are more and more beligerant these days.

I've been playing DF since Nov and don't what half those things you posted are?

Air drops and event?
Siege?

Storms Fury is a boring grind and stupid time thing to go through

Primal Storms another grind that's zero fun with useless gear drops

[FelPlague]

I've been playing DF since Nov and don't what half those things you posted are?

Air drops and event?
Siege?

Storms Fury is a boring grind and stupid time thing to go through

Primal Storms another grind that's zero fun with useless gear drops

1- Aire drops are a warmode only thing that was added in BFA but got removed in shadowlands, every so often a zone wide alert will go on and a plane will start flying across the map, eventually dropping a crate that upon landing needs to be claimed by a faction, looting the chest gives a ton of gold, resources, honor, conquest, acheive progress, rousing ire, and bloody coins.

2- Event rares are big rares usually requiring a group to kill, they spawn every half an hour somewhere on the isle, they were previously much longer respawn, and were known as super rares, but some call them event cause they show on the map.

3- siege of dragonbane keep.

4- storms fury sure it is not everyones cup of tea, but ive met a lot of people who really enjoy them because of the group aspect of it, like groups having to work together to acheive this goal.

5- eh the gear is pretty great for alts and for transmog, as the armors look HELLA FUCKING SICK. and idk, they are pretty fun with a group, gathering up 20 so mobs and just bursting the fuck outta them, its not super exciting top end content, but its fun to just curbstomp massive packs.

[liyroot]

wanna know what else is funny?
The buffs you get from getting higher ranks that increase your rep gained and how strong you are in the area.
maybe next time do some actual research.

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A week to make a raid?
Lol what?
it took them a week to make molten core.
each boss had 1-2 MAYBE 3 mechanics. and the environment was extremely basic, and only 1 boss had a unique model.
it does not take 1 week to make a raid currently, no matter what.

Yeah, later on in that post I say, "It now takes them years what used to take them weeks." and that I wish they would spend less dev time on raids.

[Alroxas]

This seems to be a recurrent theme with Blizzard since at least BfA.

I don't think it's Blizzard as much as it is a community belief that players need to min/max the shit out of WoW. And while this holds true for the top 1% of WoW players, this player worldview is commonly shared across the majority of the playerbase.

[admf]

I kinda feel bored with the game too. Overall I like DF and it seems a big step into the right direction, after the last expansions being so bad. After many years I felt like I was playing WoW again.
Speaking for myself, I decided to switch mains on DF. I always liked the playstyle of Mages, but never really mained one because when I started playing WoW, a friend wanted to play mage and I was kinda happy playing Warlock, which was my main all these years, since TBC until SL. So, switching mains saved me from getting bored sooner.
That said, I still need to improve a lot as a mage because after so many years playing warlock it feels like organic to me, so that also helps me. I want to improve, I want to raid (I don't know about mythic raiding, but heroic feels like a sweetspot to me) and I also like doing M+15 for some challenge. I like to PvP, but mostly regular bgs, since I am not an arena guy nor have the desire to play RBG.

TLDR:
- I do the weekly content
- I try to improve as much as I can playing a mage.
- I will eventually level up another characters (my warlock is already at 70)
- I want to get into professions because so far, that has been the weakest point in DF in my opinion. It's very confusing and VERY complex to understand.
- I like to do old content for xmogs, mounts, achievements, etc

That is how I fight boredom on WoW.

[FelPlague]

I don't think it's Blizzard as much as it is a community belief that players need to min/max the shit out of WoW. And while this holds true for the top 1% of WoW players, this player worldview is commonly shared across the majority of the playerbase.

There is a massive amount of players who DON'T NEED TO GET BIS, heck in this thread you can see people who REQUIRE BIS, but... they don't raid, M+, or PVP, they just do world content, but they feel they MUST get BIS that they can.

There is so many players like this, who even though they are not doing the hardest content, feel they MUST get the best potential they possibly can.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Yeah, later on in that post I say, "It now takes them years what used to take them weeks." and that I wish they would spend less dev time on raids.

If they used to be able to output a raid every week or two why did they never do it? If any company could do it if they “built solid infrastructure” where are all the other games that had a new wow esc raid every week or two?

[Alroxas]

Of the modern expansions starting Legion, DF is the most barren on activities of all.

This expansion is practically empty - they made a kickass world, but then they populated it with bare minimum events that became obsolete in the first month after launch.

But expansion-specific world activities? Bruh... They gave you a bare frikkin' minimum they could. It's not nothing, but it's a step down from what we are used to get.

It's not exactly a fair comparison is it? DF is still early in its expansion whereas we have the whole of Legion, BFA, and SL to compare it to.

Consider Legion then PRIOR to 7.1.0, how much content was there? Suramar's questline at this point ended with the opening of Court of Stars and The Arcway. 2 "launch" dungeons that players couldn't access until they grinded the rep and storyline. Mage Tower wasn't added until 7.2 and Legion Legendaries were STUPID hard to get. It was actually faster to level up a WoD max level toon through Legion and get their first Legion legendary than to get a second legion legendary on your initial toon. Return to Karazhan was added as a mega-dungeon at 7.1 and wasn't converted to M+ status until later.

Same could be said of BFA and SL, prior to their X.1 content patch, how much content is there really? For instance, Faction Assaults (Incursions) in BFA weren't added until 8.1. SL got Korthia in 9.1 but even then players complained that Korthia was a "small" zone. ZM was much better but that was a later SL patch.

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Guess what, it does and EVEN if it falls short by couple hundred mils - it's still fucking TON of money.

Still probably not enough for Bobby and the other shareholders.

For that money, they can do better than soup and "siege".

But Blizzard has given us a roadmap of future planned content (with estimated delivery dates). Has Blizzard EVER done that before in WoW's history?

And here's the kicker - I don't even need to compare to previous expansions to tell you that fucking soup and "siege" as world content is PATHETIC. How 'bout that, huh?

Or you just can't be bother to find examples which is a bit ironic considering one of the issues is supposedly Blizzard's lack of effort in creating content... I guess this may be a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

Asking them to put actual effort into world events given the pittance they offered in DF is fair, ESPECIALLY given they fucking swim in money.

Activision-Blizzard withdrawing from China market is going to take a chunk of that money away. And unless Diablo IV sales are enormous, I don't think the outlook is that great for Activision-Blizzard. The merger with MS is facing tons of regulatory review from US and EU as well.

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I don't think it's that simple, really. They are just so inconsistent; they deliver something good one expansion, that maybe needs a bit of polishing (like Thorgast, you could do so much more with it if you kept it and iterated on it); and next expansion they scrap it and either come up with something worse or nothing at all.

You do realize that current WoW's development team is split into at least 2 teams. One working on the current expansion and one working on the next.

Additionally, if they did carry systems over (like Torghast) wouldn't players just point and say that's "lazy" for just copying some old feature over to next expansion?

And lastly, there are probably bean counters somewhere in the process that will say something to the effect: This <insert feature> increased player engagement by X% but it costed us Y amount of developer time/resources so for the next feature can you make sure to use less than Y resources for better than X% engagement.

Also this seems like a minor quibble but Thorgast vs Torghast is there some sort of autocorrect going on here?

[Rageonit]

Additionally, if they did carry systems over (like Torghast) wouldn't players just point and say that's "lazy" for just copying some old feature over to next expansion?

I'm pretty sure there are players ready to moan about pretty much anything - there are players who moan about Blizzard putting too much effort into raids and m+. But if the system is good and provides content, who cares about the moaners...? I'd rather have content that some players don't enjoy than not have content at all - and DF failed to introduce any kind of meaningful new content, while stripping a lot of content provided by SL and past expansions.

[FelPlague]

But expansion-specific world activities? Bruh... They gave you a bare frikkin' minimum they could. It's not nothing, but it's a step down from what we are used to get.

You still have not answered on how it is a step down from what we used to get.

[Lordofbelbol]

You do realize that current WoW's development team is split into at least 2 teams. One working on the current expansion and one working on the next.

Additionally, if they did carry systems over (like Torghast) wouldn't players just point and say that's "lazy" for just copying some old feature over to next expansion?

And lastly, there are probably bean counters somewhere in the process that will say something to the effect: This <insert feature> increased player engagement by X% but it costed us Y amount of developer time/resources so for the next feature can you make sure to use less than Y resources for better than X% engagement.

Also this seems like a minor quibble but Thorgast vs Torghast is there some sort of autocorrect going on here?

I feel like blizzard don't care what those people say, specially forum goers who are unrealistic and entitled.

[Rageonit]

You still have not answered on how it is a step down from what we used to get.

Multiple people gave you multiple examples already. There's no point to do it anymore, because you've proven, again and again, that you're organically unable to differentiate between "lazy content" and "content you personally don't enjoy". One can give you an example of the most ambitious feature, and you will simply respond that you didn't enjoy it and you enjoy the soup event, therefore the soup event is better. Having a meaningful conversation with you is impossible, becasue you refuse to follow the very principles of a honest conversation - either on purpose, or because you don't understand them. Even when factually wrong, you put the blame on your interlocutor. As such, I would strongly discourage anyone of trying to prove anything to you. It's a futile task; a waste of time, to speak plainly.

[FelPlague]

Multiple people gave you multiple examples already. There's no point to do it anymore, because you've proven, again and again, that you're organically unable to differentiate between "lazy content" and "content you personally don't enjoy". One can give you an example of the most ambitious feature, and you will simply respond that you didn't enjoy it and you enjoy the soup event, therefore the soup event is better. Having a meaningful conversation with you is impossible, becasue you refuse to follow the very principles of a honest conversation - either on purpose, or because you don't understand them. Even when factually wrong, you put the blame on your interlocutor. As such, I would strongly discourage anyone of trying to prove anything to you. It's a futile task; a waste of time, to speak plainly.

"One of the most ambitious feature"
What previous expansions world content was the most ambitious feature?
Mate you have lost the plot.

[Rageonit]

"One of the most ambitious feature"
What previous expansions world content was the most ambitious feature?
Mate you have lost the plot.

Like I've already said, there's no point in responding to you.

[FelPlague]

Like I've already said, there's no point in responding to you.

You can't think of anything.