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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Morgaith View Post
    FOMO and unobtainable items have no place in 2023 but i dont think we'll see anything like this happen until wow really shits the bed. They'll probably do it by the time they make reputations accountwide.
    But I wanna feel specialz !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Or just, maybe, the non cringe take of "Play for what you want to get" ? Crazy isn't it...

    You can't win the 2016 super bowl ring too, I guess you should cry to the NFL that it's unfair fomo your mind can't handle ?
    Yes you absolutely should be able to play for what you want to get, such things just shouldn’t be locked by time period and you should be able to earn them down the line if you put in the effort.

    There is no good reason for it not to be an option just people crying that they won’t be as special if others can earn there old rewards.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Nope, I want gear to be earn able. For people to put in just as much if not more effect and just not be limited by time.

    You are the snow flake wanting a to stay special because you have a cosmetic others don’t.
    bro you are larping as a 40k character on a wow forum. you are the snow flake LMAO. you can get the glad, you just cant get the elite set. whats done is done

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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZeppelin View Post
    bro you are larping as a 40k character on a wow forum. you are the snow flake LMAO. you can get the glad, you just cant get the elite set. whats done is done
    I’m not the one trying to stay special by locking cosmetics because some one wearing the same set as me would make me have a melt down snow flake.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbleem View Post
    I'd argue the opposite. Make mythic raid transmog unavailable after the next tier comes out.
    I'd still be fine with that honestly. Would mean both sides get equal treatment at least

  7. #27
    I think it's a Simple Solution.

    Make it so that in order to earn ANY Elite PvP gear, you need to unlock the required Rating for the Current Season.
    Then you may Purchase One Elite Gladiator Cosmetic Set from any season.

  8. #28
    I think it should essentially be the same as how they treat mythic gear. General player base is able to solo it 2 expansions later and collect the mogs. Make elite sets unlock after 2 expansions of being exclusive.

    That said, I doubt it will ever happen because elitism in a cornerstone of WoW PvP.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Morgaith View Post
    FOMO and unobtainable items have no place in 2023 but i dont think we'll see anything like this happen until wow really shits the bed. They'll probably do it by the time they make reputations accountwide.
    We're already seeing a huge decline in Dragonflight, won't be too long.
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by korijenkins View Post
    It's a very stupid, pointless restriction that doesn't exist for PvE gear. When you obtain the rating should be irrelevant, as long as you do obtain it.
    now that argument wont hold up that when some seasons rank1 on the ladder was 2400, some it was 3500 and some it was 2600, now elite seasons for most of the gear was when 2.200 was pretty fkn high on the ladder may it be 2v2 3v3 etc and ever since then the rating inflation has been a thing and we end up on super astronomical rating, does that mean someone who calculated for inflation would be 3500 now should lose their uniqueness of a hard obtained set to someone who is 2200 (1600 if we de inflate?)

    now its a hard question to answer and i think its best leave it as it is because eitherway we will have drama about it, its the same thing about celebrations mounts or achievements that are not obtainable anymore aswell.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Morgaith View Post
    FOMO and unobtainable items have no place in 2023 but i dont think we'll see anything like this happen until wow really shits the bed. They'll probably do it by the time they make reputations accountwide.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lakesis View Post
    Hello,

    Now i know it is a very controversial topic, but could we please be able to get the old elite pvp mogs somehow?

    I mean, i doubt all players plays all class every seasons since 10y now? What is the actual point of putting coloring and mogs that are never seen again? To me its kind of a waste.

    Not to mention this is only for pvp, i never saw any raider complain about the MM mogs being obtenable in next expacs when players smash it in pugs legacy raids...

    I know there is the prestige and all, but people also have achievements and titiles to show their prestige no?
    Blizzard tried to make them obtainable again in Legion but the playerbase got so upset they decided against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flantini View Post
    Maybe they could become available for a resource from winning games at an elite rank currently? Think the vicious saddle system but for games at an elite rank.

    Its okay for the game to have rare and limited time items, especially when they are purely cosmetic. Not everything needs to be available to everyone and that's okay. Let people enjoy being a special peacock in whatever content they excel at.

    Its lame that the mythic sets are free game but, I guess that's the free bone they give players? Hell the elite sets now the same, just a recolor and a few extra lightning bolt effects.

    Imo they should add another elite set for the mythic+ season too.
    This is kinda what they implied they would add in legion, but again, the playerbase got super livid, and so blizz backed off the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I think it should essentially be the same as how they treat mythic gear. General player base is able to solo it 2 expansions later and collect the mogs. Make elite sets unlock after 2 expansions of being exclusive.

    That said, I doubt it will ever happen because elitism in a cornerstone of WoW PvP.
    ^^^^^^^^
    This, blizz wanted to in legion, and the elitism in the wow community showed its hand.

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    No.

    If you weren't there or you didn't reach a certain rating, you don't deserve them. Simple as that.

    Same goes with achievements/titles/mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbleem View Post
    I'd argue the opposite. Make mythic raid transmog unavailable after the next tier comes out.
    Totally fine by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    There is no good reason for it not to be an option
    There is actually a very simple reason : it was season X award and we aren't season X anymore.

    Deal with the frustration and move on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    There is actually a very simple reason : it was season X award and we aren't season X anymore.

    Deal with the frustration and move on...
    There is a reason, its just not a good one as I said.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    I’m not the one trying to stay special by locking cosmetics because some one wearing the same set as me would make me have a melt down snow flake.
    i dont even have half the elite sets. i can let the past be the past lmao

  16. #36
    Meanwhile, Shadowghast boys:

    Like lmao, if they can put Elite PVP sets on a white set and make it moggable, yeah, I think we're past the point where it should be possible to obtain.

    As for the prestige of it, I'm all for the idea of the new versions being a lower rarity just so the transmog window confirms whether you earned it in the original season. Like make all the original ones Legendary and the new ones Epic. Or make the new ones Common. But still earned through Conquest obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZeppelin View Post
    i dont even have half the elite sets. i can let the past be the past lmao
    let he past be the past by vividly holding onto it and whining that people might get something you have, suuuuuure.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by melzas View Post
    They should treat both mythic raid tier sets and pvp elite sets the same way, either make them both FOMO or neither. It's really stupid that pvp sets are gone forever when season ends but pve sets aren't.
    Not even just still there, the old Mythic raid sets are ridiculously easy to obtain. Again, it could be as easy as changing the rarity of the original, truly-earned versions from Epic to Legendary. Or they could even make it more interesting and just require thst you earn them by beating the raid at the appropriate level, Timewalking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    No.

    If you weren't there or you didn't reach a certain rating, you don't deserve them. Simple as that.

    Same goes with achievements/titles/mounts.



    Totally fine by me.
    What would you feel about the ability to earn the old colors through the modern Elite/Conquest system, but the ensembles are Common instead of Epic, or the originals are Legendary instead of Epic? So you still get the badge of "I did this, yall just got the hand-me-downs"

    Like the Unchained Elite sets. But earned through PVP specifically.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    What would you feel about the ability to earn the old colors through the modern Elite/Conquest system, but the ensembles are Common instead of Epic, or the originals are Legendary instead of Epic? So you still get the badge of "I did this, yall just got the hand-me-downs"

    Like the Unchained Elite sets. But earned through PVP specifically.
    Not really. It's the t-mog that matters, not the quality. Just as some white items are looking better than the epic ones.

  20. #40
    I have a dozen elite sets on my shaman and dozens more across various classes. I could not care less if they were made available. On my shaman I usually use grievous on fem draenei and legion s7 on a dwarf. The rest are rotting. The prestige of it only really matters when it's from the current season/expansion. Pvpers don't recognize elite sets from previous expansions. No one I used to raid with could tell I was using an elite set. No one can tell the drake is a gladiator drake from bfa (only one I have.) None of it matters.

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