Are Evokers getting a new spec in 10.1?

[Teriz]

Moving right along, I added Ion's quote, and a few other developer quotes to the OP. I feel that Blizzard stating on multiple occasions that they're open to a third spec, and that there's even room for an Evoker 3rd spec is quite relevant to this thread.

EDIT: Going over some of those developer comments, especially Morgan Day's a few weeks ago, I do wonder if Blizzard is truly opposed to a tank spec for Evokers. If that's the case, we're back to healer and DPS. This quote especially is quite interesting;

This is a spellcaster class at its core. The class is initially only going to have two specializations, but if they do have a third, ranged dps and healer is where they’re focused.

Given the structure of the new talent trees, would it be possible for Blizzard to create a dual-role spec that could do either healing and damage based on talent selection? That certainly would match a spec based on the black dragonflight and a prismatic spec.

[Triceron]

Not opinions simple facts, it is not an opinion that all evokers currently make use of all 5 dragonflight powers its a simple fact, its a fact that blizzard have made the class the way they are and they have yet to announce a 3rd spec or even new abilities.

If another spec was coming it would be announced already so its not coming now or next raid tier and very unlikely to come at all within the whole expansion, thats just reality.

All im stating is simple facts, you dont have a clue about how the actual class plays so you dont know any facts yourself.

Nah, that is twisting facts to fit an opinion.

You're assuming Blizzard would not or could not create a spec in secret, and assume that if they had any plans for one they could only be transparent about it and not work on one in secret at all. None of the facts you present are mutually exclusive to transparency and openness.

They can present the Evoker the way it is, and not announce a 3rd spec, while actively working on one behind closed doors. Nothing you said actually argues against this, it is merely your opinion that they aren't doing so or that they won't. You can't actually prove that they aren't working on anything behind the scenes, which is why you can only assume.

The simple facts you presented says no one knows whether Blizzard is planning and actively working on a 3rd spec at this moment, that is all. Just because we don't know doesn't mean it isn't possible or isn't happening.



It's like saying it's a fact gravity keeps people on the earth, and a fact that no matter how high we jump we can't escape earth's gravity. These are facts. Now, if you said Man could never reach space because no matter how far we jump we can't escape earth's gravity, that is not fact, that is an assumption that presupposes that jumping is the only way to escape Earth's gravity. It isn't, and there are other ways Man can reach space without jumping which you haven't taken into account.

That you don't think they would insert a new spec mid-expansion or in a raid tier or whatever, is opinion. I'm not saying they would do so either, just making a point that there is nothing factual about this part of your argument; it is purely opinion. What you consider unlikely is not fact, it is opinion.

[draugril]

Not opinions simple facts, it is not an opinion that all evokers currently make use of all 5 dragonflight powers its a simple fact, its a fact that blizzard have made the class the way they are and they have yet to announce a 3rd spec or even new abilities.

If another spec was coming it would be announced already so its not coming now or next raid tier and very unlikely to come at all within the whole expansion, thats just reality.

All im stating is simple facts, you dont have a clue about how the actual class plays so you dont know any facts yourself.

I highly doubt we’re getting a third spec, but it’s completely disingenuous to suggest that the Black flight is represented in the same way as the other flights. Even when they were announced, they specifically mentioned which flights received focus. Black was not among them. As was factually evident when we saw for ourselves.

[Teriz]

I highly doubt we’re getting a third spec, but it’s completely disingenuous to suggest that the Black flight is represented in the same way as the other flights. Even when they were announced, they specifically mentioned which flights received focus. Black was not among them. As was factually evident when we saw for ourselves.

With that said, I seriously doubt they designed this class without the intent to create a spec that revolves around black magic.

[kenn9530]

I highly doubt we’re getting a third spec, but it’s completely disingenuous to suggest that the Black flight is represented in the same way as the other flights. Even when they were announced, they specifically mentioned which flights received focus. Black was not among them. As was factually evident when we saw for ourselves.

Its represented more than enough, it doesnt have to be in a rotation to be represented and the spec was never meant to be constantly weaving in all 5 powers, the evoker uses all 5 powers not using them all as much as each other.

[SuperKarateDeathCar]

I feel like if a new spec was coming it would be up for testing already. Unless for some weird reason they think it needs 0 outside testing, which I very much doubt.

[Gurbz]

I feel like if a new spec was coming it would be up for testing already. Unless for some weird reason they think it needs 0 outside testing, which I very much doubt.

It is definitely not coming in 10.1, for that exact reason. It is possible that it could be added in 10.1.5 or 10.1.7. Or even later, though the more patches go by the less sense it would make from a narrative perspective. Again, assuming it gets added at all. I still very much believe that this is not what is happening, and the various things that are being used as "evidence" are either unrelated or left over artifacts from ideas that they were testing internally but ultimately abandoned. I'd need to see some pretty significant changes in future PTR builds to change my mind on that.