UK Blocks Microsoft / Blizzard Merger

[Makabreska]

CMA lawyer literally asked the judge if they can find another bullshit reason to block if their cloud argument goes up in smoke and the Judge told them that they're going to have to die on this cloud gaming market hill. CMA asked if they can have a do over and the judge said no.

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[Curbstomp171]

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It doesn't matter where the Tweet came from, the CMA lawyer literally asked the judge if they can make up a new argument if their cloud gaming argument flops (which it will)

[Nymrohd]

It doesn't matter where the Tweet came from, the CMA lawyer literally asked the judge if they can make up a new argument if their cloud gaming argument flops (which it will)

And they can. If this block is taken down by the tribunal, the case simply goes back to the CMA that can block it on different reasons.

[Curbstomp171]

And they can. If this block is taken down by the tribunal, the case simply goes back to the CMA that can block it on different reasons.

No that's not how it works, CMA can't just make up a new argument, the CMA choose the Cloud gaming market hill to die on, that's it

If they could, they wouldn't have had to ask the Judge and the judge wouldn't have the ability to stop it, he flat out denied the CMA request and told them to go pound sand

[Nymrohd]

No that's not how it works, CMA can't just make up a new argument, the CMA choose the Cloud gaming market hill to die on, that's it

If they could, they wouldn't have had to ask the Judge and the judge wouldn't have the ability to stop it, he flat out denied the CMA request and told them to go pound sand

Eh I think you misunderstand. They cannot brink that argument NOW during this tribunal. If the tribunal takes the block down, the judgment goes back to the CMA but it doesn't force them to issue a positive ruling, it simply requires them to present a new ruling.

[Curbstomp171]

Eh I think you misunderstand. They cannot brink that argument NOW during this tribunal. If the tribunal takes the block down, the judgment goes back to the CMA but it doesn't force them to issue a positive ruling, it simply requires them to present a new ruling.

No actually it seems that I have a better understanding than you do, no matter what, the CMA NEEDS a Theory of Harm (ToH) to block, the entire goal with this appeal is for CAT to throw out the cloud gaming market ToH (which is the only theory of harm the CMA has)

You seem to be under the belief that the CMA can make up new numbers to try to block, they cannot which is why they have the CAT appeal in the first place. If CAT remits to the CMA and throws out the cloud gaming market argument, that's it, the CMA has no choice but to clear the deal

You literally have no idea what you're talking about lol

[Jtbrig7390]

You literally have no idea what you're talking about lol

You must be looking in a mirror when you said this.

[Tech614]

Don't even bother with curbstomp. The guy still doesn't get a CAT appeal bounces the case back to the CMA to re-evaluate under the new parameters set by the appeal. It doesn't magically approve the deal. This has been explained to him multiple times in this thread but the dude only reads MS astroturf twitter accounts so it's like talking to a wall.

[Curbstomp171]

You must be looking in a mirror when you said this.

This you? You literally got the Korean FTC mixed up with the US FTC

You're comic relief and good for nothing more than a laugh

[Nymrohd]

No actually it seems that I have a better understanding than you do, no matter what, the CMA NEEDS a Theory of Harm (ToH) to block, the entire goal with this appeal is for CAT to throw out the cloud gaming market ToH (which is the only theory of harm the CMA has)

You seem to be under the belief that the CMA can make up new numbers to try to block, they cannot which is why they have the CAT appeal in the first place.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about lol

A successful appeal just bounces the issue back to the CMA for further review and new evidence CAN be presented and a new ToH can be formed. This DID happen with the Meta/Giphy merger; Meta successfully appealed to the CAT, then the CMA issued a new ruling which held on second appeal.

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This you? You literally got the Korean FTC mixed up with the US FTC

You're comic relief and good for nothing more than a laugh

He did not. I did and then corrected it (again sorry, morning browsing ). I even say so in the edit WHICH YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE IN YOUR QUOTE.
You could not get more bad faith.

[Curbstomp171]

A successful appeal just bounces the issue back to the CMA for further review and new evidence CAN be presented and a new ToH can be formed. This DID happen with the Meta/Giphy merger; Meta successfully appealed to the CAT, then the CMA issued a new ruling which held on second appeal.

Nope, again zero idea what you're talking about, Meta was remitted back to the CMA purely because of a procedural error, none of the ToH in the Meta/Giphy (I believe there were 3 of them) were thrown out by CAT

A ToH was tossed out in the Tobii case but that case had 3 ToH and Tobii got nailed with the other 2

MS/ABK has 1 ToH, once its gone that's it

You don't even research any of these cases, you just talk and embarrass yourself

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Anyway I'll be back later to humiliate you guys in a few weeks when the second Case Management hearing is out

[Jtbrig7390]

This you? You literally got the Korean FTC mixed up with the US FTC

You're comic relief and good for nothing more than a laugh

Yep that was me and yet you clearly didn't read the post because it wasn't me who got it mixed up.....

Nice try tho.

If you are going bash someone at least read the post first.

[Deus Mortis]

Anyway I'll be back later to humiliate you guys in a few weeks when the second Case Management hearing is out

Why should we believe you when you weren't supposed to show back up until they won their appeal? From the 16th.

I'll be back again after MS wins the appeal, no reason to be here otherwise.

[loras]

Ah yes, the long tradition of "body language analysis" that's filled dead airtime with absolute nonsense for decades and people always like when they think they can interpret in their favor. Better extrapolate all kinds of information that's impossible to actually glean from these still images!

This.
Not really favoring either side here, though one can hope the deal going through breathes some fresh air into Blizzard's rotting mass.

But the lengths the strongly opinionated go through to make their preferred outcome seem more likely without ever involving reasoning or argumentation?
That's odd stuff.

[Jtbrig7390]

though one can hope the deal going through breathes some fresh air into Blizzard's rotting mass.

History has shown that won't be the case at all.

It didn't happen with Rare or Bethesda and it won't happen with ABK.

[Toby451]

History has shown that won't be the case at all.

It didn't happen with Rare or Bethesda and it won't happen with ABK.

Rare has been very successful with Sea of Thieves and Bethesda just came out with Hi-Fi Rush and soon Starfield. Microsoft game studios has been slacking as a whole but not because of those two.