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    World of Warcraft: Age of Twilight

    Title of the expansion is as listed above.

    The basic premise:

    Iridikron is helping Xal'atath to awaken Azeroth, which will in turn bait the Titans to return.

    We will indeed be heading for Avaloren, located north-west of Kalimdor. You can actually already see the continent of Avaloren now on the globe featured in the new Hearthstone TITANS expansion game board. This was an intentional easter egg. There is an additional landmass here which I do not know about.

    There will be a third faction introduced, although not in the same vein as the Alliance and Horde. You won't be able to select this faction on the character creation screen, but will be able to defect to them during the expansion if you choose to. They are called the Tidesworn, they are neutral and are primarily made of of privateers and mercenaries. Pirates, basically. I do not know the benefits of joining the Tidesworn, but I assume it will involve alternatives story arcs, cosmetics, mounts etc.

    The Tidesworn are headquartered at Gadgetzan, which is now vastly bigger, resembling it's depiction in Hearthstone and the Traveler book series. This will act as your major city hub should you choose to work with this faction.

    Avaloren is home to Uldaz, the final titan facility. Yes, there is an Old God here, but this one is not like the others. This Old God arrived on Azeroth before the four we know so far. It was the "original scout" sent by the void. It was imprisoned long before the four Old Gods arrived and formed the Black Empire. Iridikron wishes to use this creature as a weapon against the Titans on their arrival, but I do not know the details of this plan. I believe this will be the focal point of the first raid.

    Avaloren has five zones. Khaz Algar and Uldaz were among them. There was mention of a place called Ebonwood too but I'm not sure if this is an entire zone or a sub-zone.

    There is a heavy Ethereal presence on Avaloren, they are sided with Xal'atath. There has also been significant customization development on these models which would suggest a potential playable race.

    There is also a heavy Naga presence on Avaloren, they are sided with Azshara. There appears to be some competition between Xal'atath and Azshara to become something known as the "Twilight Sovereign", this has something to do with the void's throne of power. We will get caught in the middle of this conflict.

    That's all I have for now. If I receive any other details I will post below.

    EDIT: forgot to mention. Old world is getting facelift. Gradual rollout of modern assets including buildings, trees etc.

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    To clarify, if you join the Tidesworn you do not leave your current faction. But there is extensive group content specifically for Tidesworn players.

    UPDATE: I want to clear some things up.

    1. No, there are no new classes being introduced.
    2. AFAIK there are no new races being introduced, at least on launch. Blizzard are however focusing more on existing race customization.
    3. The controversy surrounding the final titan facility, jailing of the original old god and the first arrival of the titans will be explored during the levelling campaign. Basically, the titans lied to us about the ordering of azeroth. This has already been established in retail. There is an entire chapter they left out. (Blizz retconning again)
    4. It is my own personal belief that the Ethereal are being prepared as a playable race. I have no official knowledge of this. Naga will NOT be playable.
    5. The third faction is more narrative than anything. It will not have any impact on battlegrounds or PvP in general. As I mentioned above (which people generally ignored) it is NOT faction in the same sense as the Alliance & Horde.
    6. Do not worry if this sounds lackluster. This is, by far, the largest expansion Blizzard have ever released. The information I have been provided is barely the tip of the iceberg.
    7. Avaloren itself is MUCH larger than the five zones we are visiting in this expansion. The rest will be inaccessible (like the Ogre continent in WoD)
    8. Turalyon will be a pivotal character during the expansion.
    Last edited by Erotos; 2023-08-19 at 11:27 AM. Reason: Updates

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    Cool fanfic, bro.

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    Obligatory "Where source, here we go again" message,

    But to talk about this as more of a "fan idea" then fact, it's kind of interesting. Hearthstone introducing things that eventually come to WoW isn't foreign in nature, we got to know what N'zoth looked like in Hearthstone before his model showed up in WoW, some NPCs have shown up in WoW, that sort of thing.

    The one flaw I'm finding here, and who knows, maybe I'm wrong on this, is the idea of Azshara still aligning herself with the Void. At the end of BFA, she was caught after her failed attempt to rebel against N'zoth, and her experience wasn't pleasent there. While I like the idea of Azshara being present and against Xal, I think her presence would be more akin to a third faction going there. We the heroes want to stop Xal, Xal wants the power to serve the Void, and Azshara wants the power to defeat the void and remind the world whose the real Queen.

    I'm also curious to the 'new' old god mentioned, as it technicly would make sense. When the Void Lords sent out the Old Gods, it was more of a shotgun approach, where they just threw them enmasse into the cosmos, hoping to strike gold. It makes sense for one to land, and be like "we got one" and then for reinforcements to come (Which is in the form of the Original Three. G'huun is synthetic, as a reminder).

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    The Hearthstone globe stuff seems to be something at least? Draenei isles + Teldrassil on the bottom would mean the 2 other larger masses would be northwest of kalimdor.
    This one actually seems believable, including the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erotos View Post
    To clarify, if you join the Twidesworn you do not leave your current faction. But there is extensive group content specifically for Tidesworn players.
    If this were true, why would anyone *not* join the Tidesworn? And what would the point of picking them at character creation be? If the content expects you to be Tidesworn, wouldn't it just be a thing you immediately join during the expansion, like the Order Halls in Legion, or the Covenants in SL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwgmon View Post
    If this were true, why would anyone *not* join the Tidesworn? And what would the point of picking them at character creation be? If the content expects you to be Tidesworn, wouldn't it just be a thing you immediately join during the expansion, like the Order Halls in Legion, or the Covenants in SL?
    Not my post and all, but I could see them set it up where Horde and Alliance each get a renown/covenant system, and you can do that by default with your current faction, OR you can choose Tidesworn. So you only pick 1 of the 3, not like you get your base faction PLUS the new one.

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    Fake....

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    Why didn't you just use chatGPT? Seems like lot of text to write for nothing otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudibleEscalation View Post
    Why didn't you just use chatGPT? Seems like lot of text to write for nothing otherwise
    Why didn't you just use chatGPT? Seems like lot of text to write for nothing otherwise.

    See how annoying the insinuation is? Yes, it's another 'leak' post on MMO-Champion, but bemoaning them as fake is as old as the posts themselves, so why not just look at them as novel fan ideas instead, and react accordingly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinata View Post
    Why didn't you just use chatGPT? Seems like lot of text to write for nothing otherwise.

    See how annoying the insinuation is? Yes, it's another 'leak' post on MMO-Champion, but bemoaning them as fake is as old as the posts themselves, so why not just look at them as novel fan ideas instead, and react accordingly?
    Bemoaning them as a fake is a time proven tradition in these forums. You've been here for a decade. Surely you know this?

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    Maybe I'm forgetting something, but how would the 5th old god be imprisoned in a titan facility before the other 3/4 if the titans found Azeroth after 3/4 arrived?

    Another independant Titan found Azeroth before the Pantheon and did some clean up before leaving?

    Regardless, neat expansion idea. Seems believable, even the 3rd faction thing. Kinda like someone took the Eye of Nzoth thing and just went hogwild with it.
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    No tinker can't be real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudibleEscalation View Post
    Bemoaning them as a fake is a time proven tradition in these forums. You've been here for a decade. Surely you know this?
    Which is why I opened my post the way I did prior, I acknowledge the trope, but move on quickly to be productive in the thread, rather then just stick to a predictable, and tired, formula. If these posters want traction, give it to them in a different way, rather then be hostile

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    Well there was originally 5 old gods, and then they retconned it to 4 and then they retconned it again to 5. So they wouldnt do that without plans to bring it back.

    The ethereal's siding with Xal'atath does not make too much sense. Their planet was destroyed and their bodies turned into what they are know because of a giant void lord. Yes, we see lotus walker using void magic to teach the void elves, but I dont think they would ally with the beings that destroyed their homeworld. They also run cartels all across the universe and it does not make sense to jeprodize that.

    Edit: Then again some of the draenei allied with the legion and look at Argus lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by puddypounce View Post
    No tinker can't be real.
    Since when does tinker is real ??

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    Almost fell asleep reading halfway through this.

    I know these fake leaks mostly serve to either troll or just post interesting expansion ideas worth discussing and speculating on... but this one is neither wtf. It also sounds like you've basically summarised a recent Bellular video, except that he speculated all these things as something that will come in the future eventually at different times.

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    Picks up on any of the currently suspected hints: CHECK

    Has a meaningless and generic name: CHECK

    Is vague and unspecific about everything: CHECK

    Introduces some wild and unbelievable mechanic: CHECK

    Tinkers: NO CHECK

    Sorry, this isn't a proper leak. Try again.

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    Don't care about fake or not, but I actually fond this concept interesting, and would like to see it happen even if it's not what we get.

    A potential 3rd faction of Pirates you can join? Count me in!

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    Leaks tend to be short, few notes, ones that sound kinda weird out of context.

    New class/race dragon people.
    Dragon isles
    Joint expedition

    That sorta thing.

    Anything that goes into detail like this is almost 100% false. Fake leakers can never help but stretch their creative writing wings.

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