Patch 10.2.: Wasn't the Emerald Dream in another dimension?

[Nork]

I'm a little bit bewildered after watching the 10.2. announcement interview. When they showed the new zone, which is supposed to be within the Emerald Dream, it seems to be in Azeroth. Is this possible, lorewise?

[Cheezits]

We get there through magic.

It's a zone in the game because loading screens suck.

[geco]

They are literally two versions of the same world so yes it is what you say.

Duda in the announcement they said something about the "lore of the Kaldorei". More than anything because of the "I told you so" of those who said that "now the Kaldorei city is coming" or that this was going to make up for the fact that Maiev's Quest is not that of the Kaldorei XD.

[Nork]

After watching again the inverview, I've noticed that the developers said that Amirdrassil is merging into Azeroth so that would explain why that part of the Emerald Dream is in our world.

[geco]

After watching again the inverview, I've noticed that the developers said that Amirdrassil is merging into Azeroth so that would explain why that part of the Emerald Dream is in our world.

I say it more funny.
But the tree is breaking azeroth .. the tree is bad?

Is the tree going to cure the whole world?

[Mace]

It's called the dream because it is what Azeroth the titan is dreaming. Sorta like her sub-conscious

[Mojo03]

It's a parallel mirror of Azeroth, that's been kept completely organic and untouched by anything other than druids there to protect it.

Like a version of earth without human civilization ever existing, basically.

Is my understanding, at least.

[Grazrug]

oh look more night elf stuff. Because Blizzard hasn't bombarded us with it since Legion. How original and interesting. Not.

[Alanar]

Arafal was right, this exactly that spot.

It makes sense what he says, that the tree will be right at that same spot when it crosses over.

[Ebonn]

I'm a little bit bewildered after watching the 10.2. announcement interview. When they showed the new zone, which is supposed to be within the Emerald Dream, it seems to be in Azeroth. Is this possible, lorewise?

The Emerald Dream is a reflection of wild Azeroth. So, yea, by definition it would have to be a setting present on Azeroth. It is within the dream though.

[LionSinMaikeru]

I truly wish instead of giving us bits and pieces of the Emerald Dream in what feels like every other expansion, they would have just given us a whole ass Emerald Dream expansion instead of WoD or Shadowlands. -_-

[Woggmer]

I truly wish instead of giving us bits and pieces of the Emerald Dream in what feels like every other expansion, they would have just given us a whole ass Emerald Dream expansion instead of WoD or Shadowlands. -_-

They tried that, they've said it multiple times in interviews from different people.. even Metzen said that an Emerald Dream expansion wouldn't work due to lack of variety aside from lush green forests.

It's the equivalent of asking for an expansion but every zone looks like Val'Sharah but with a palette swap.

[Powerogue]

Looks like the portal on the right where we come through. Might be a "transition segment" putting it on the map in that red circle in the same way Zaralek Cavern is on the map in the bottom right there, canonically below us, but mechanically through a magic tunnel.

So I would guess you dragonride through the portal in the small island west of Ohn'aran Plains, maybe we get a cool effect akin to the whoosh tubes in Shadowlands, bing bang boom you're in the Emerald Dream.

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After watching again the inverview, I've noticed that the developers said that Amirdrassil is merging into Azeroth so that would explain why that part of the Emerald Dream is in our world.

So like what Deathwing did to the Maelstrom, but in a good way this time.

[LionSinMaikeru]

They tried that, they've said it multiple times in interviews from different people.. even Metzen said that an Emerald Dream expansion wouldn't work due to lack of variety aside from lush green forests.

It's the equivalent of asking for an expansion but every zone looks like Val'Sharah but with a palette swap.

I always found that to be a weak excuse, personally. I mean by that logic based on what we saw of Northrend in W3, wouldn't making an entire expansion based around a frozen northern chunk of land "lack variety" ? No, of course not, because they made it have variety.

The same if you look at a map of the middle Eastern Kingdoms that was given in Warcraft. I'm sure people back then would have said there's no way they could have taken that small map and made...what, 10 unique zones (Elwynn, Westfall, Duskwood, Redridge Mountains, Swamp of Sorrows, Blasted Lands, Deadwind Pass, Burning Steppes / Searing Gorge, STV?) But they did...because that's what a developer's job is...to develop.

Them admitting they couldn't do it is not a good look. We know very little about The Emerald Dream and what we *do* know is that it's vast and ever-changing. They could have done anything they wanted with it - from a "lush green forest" to something creative and dreamesque like a jungle in a permanent winter, or a land that has pink water and black skies.

[Woggmer]

I always found that to be a weak excuse, personally. I mean by that logic based on what we saw of Northrend in W3, wouldn't making an entire expansion based around a frozen northern chunk of land "lack variety" ? No, of course not, because they made it have variety.

The same if you look at a map of the middle Eastern Kingdoms that was given in Warcraft. I'm sure people back then would have said there's no way they could have taken that small map and made...what, 10 unique zones (Elwynn, Westfall, Duskwood, Redridge Mountains, Swamp of Sorrows, Blasted Lands, Deadwind Pass, Burning Steppes / Searing Gorge, STV?) But they did...because that's what a developer's job is...to develop.

Them admitting they couldn't do it is not a good look. We know very little about The Emerald Dream and what we *do* know is that it's vast and ever-changing. They could have done anything they wanted with it - from a "lush green forest" to something creative and dreamesque like a jungle in a permanent winter, or a land that has pink water and black skies.

Northrend was a wasteland, but it also had a whole kingdom of insects that lived beneath the ice, but they have expanded on it to include stuff like the Vrykul, Zul'Drak, the Storm Peaks housing Ulduar.. it has potential to be something greater than what it used to be.

All the Emerald Dream is, is a magical realm with animals, lust forests, and basically no form of civilization or mortal creatures to disturb the ecosystem. It's a blue-print of Azeroth without mortals at all. It isn't some dreamland where the artists and designers can do whatever they want with it. If the Elemental Planes were converging all at once on the Emerald Dream then maybe it could work... but we already have that with the Primalists in DF (though despite having the primalists, they've been heavily focusing on Fire through out this expansion so far) and we had it before with Cata.

It is their job to develop, but they also need to know that their limitations of what they can or can't work with.

[TbouncerT]

Northrend was a wasteland, but it also had a whole kingdom of insects that lived beneath the ice, but they have expanded on it to include stuff like the Vrykul, Zul'Drak, the Storm Peaks housing Ulduar.. it has potential to be something greater than what it used to be.

All the Emerald Dream is, is a magical realm with animals, lust forests, and basically no form of civilization or mortal creatures to disturb the ecosystem. It's a blue-print of Azeroth without mortals at all. It isn't some dreamland where the artists and designers can do whatever they want with it. If the Elemental Planes were converging all at once on the Emerald Dream then maybe it could work... but we already have that with the Primalists in DF (though despite having the primalists, they've been heavily focusing on Fire through out this expansion so far) and we had it before with Cata.

It is their job to develop, but they also need to know that their limitations of what they can or can't work with.

yup, but this is mmo-c and people come here because they have years of experience in development and design to come and brainstorm their stellar ideas.

[THEORACLE64]

I'm a little bit bewildered after watching the 10.2. announcement interview. When they showed the new zone, which is supposed to be within the Emerald Dream, it seems to be in Azeroth. Is this possible, lorewise?

The Emerald Dream is a literal reflection of Azeroth… it’s no different than just looking in the mirror or at a shadow, it’s still going to the the same *face palm*

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

You can also look at it as the Dream manifesting itself physically in Azeroth to bring forth Amirdrassil, so it can phase into the waking world.

[Al Gorefiend]

They're planting the world tree in the Ohn'aran Plains? I didn't know that.