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  1. #61
    anything that isnt another flavor of elf/human/orc and a race that can actually transmog more than 2 items on themselfs

  2. #62
    Horde should get Ogres, Alliance should get Nagas. Straight to the point.

    No elves, no bullshit, no neutral races that decide fighting for our cause is more important than life itself.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    If Shrek can have it, so can WoW. If Orcs have it, so would Ogres (their ancestors).
    It's not really that hard. We've already got Kul Tirans for a fat skeleton rig. So, it just requires a skin. Obviously, it would be based on ancient romans. So, they wouldn't be so hideous.
    No one said they couldn't have it, but you wanting it would be considered woke, understand? You're accusing me of doing exactly what you're doing here. Literally asking for diversity for diversity's sake.


    'Shrek also had talking Donkeys so WoW should have talking Donkeys'

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
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    This is the hill I will die on
    Froglok was my go to race during my everquest years. I’ll definitely take frog/toad race

  5. #65
    Ogres, my lord.

    It's crazy that they've been in the running since TBC and haven't made the cut. Outside of them, Sethrak, Jinyu, and Hozen would be great. Or an insectoid race would be interesting, but since most worship Old Gods, they'd have to make a story about why they're separate from the Mantid and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itori View Post
    Froglok was my go to race during my everquest years. I’ll definitely take frog/toad race
    Man, I hated Frogloks. Like, they were a great addition to the game and the design was great, but there was something about them I didn't like. Probably because they took over Grobb!

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    No one said they couldn't have it, but you wanting it would be considered woke, understand? You're accusing me of doing exactly what you're doing here. Literally asking for diversity for diversity's sake.


    'Shrek also had talking Donkeys so WoW should have talking Donkeys'
    What? Diversity for diversity sake? It is the standard procedure and logical one for every race until your beloved Dracthyr came along. Races added have male and female, simple as that (as long as they're not reptilian or ambiguous goo like Ditto).

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    Well that depends. Do you consider the Travelers books canon ?

    We didn't have female goblins before vanilla. And we've yet to meet female kobolds and ethereal ingame. I mean in terms of models we still have some leftover bearded female dragons, so an ingame model shouldn't be an hindrace.
    And I'm not saying they couldn't add one if they wanted to, I'm saying they could opt to omit splitting gendered since they aren't gendering races any more anyways.

    Like even with your example of Ethereals, if they ever did add them they would be split to 'Body type 1' and 'Body type 2' and they just let players imply that one of them is going to represent females, without overtly going out of their way to call it the 'female body option'. And they'll just add NPCs accordingly. There's nothing stopping them from representing females with the current Ethereal model.

    Even if female Ogres exist, they don't need to be given a specific model for it. Ogres being represented by a single body type can remain ambiguous and up to players to decide, just as it exists now.

    Having one body type with no further explanation simply allows people to make up their own conclusion, and Blizzard has already been applying this vagueness to all new race/class comboes and cosmetics that also remain ambiguous, like Dark Ranger Undead Elf skins that work for Paladins and Druids, or Night Elves and Lightforged and Mag'har suddenly having Warlock options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    What? Diversity for diversity sake? It is the standard procedure and logical one for every race until your beloved Dracthyr came along. Races added have male and female, simple as that (as long as they're not reptilian or ambiguous goo like Ditto).
    Standard procedure which you've considered to be Woke with the Evoker, no? Aren't you the one also criticizing how they are ruining the game for you with pretty options instead of adhering to previous lore?

    Now you're asking for pretty Ogres.
    Last edited by Triceron; 2023-09-12 at 03:45 PM.

  8. #68
    I'd prefer that they take the current races and fix the rigging, clipping, and other abnormalities. The nightborne stance is stiff and weird. Zandalari are too big and it clashes with everything. Canonically orcs should probably be larger. There are a lot of little things with almost every race.

  9. #69
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    always wanted (living) humans for the Horde... Alteraci Human for the Horde !!!
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

    I make Warcraft 3 Reforged custom models that intends to fill the gaps in the Reforged campaign

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    Vrykul, Centaur, Hybrid races that allready exist like half orc/human, nightelf/tauren, undead/panda, mechaworgen and so on. Additionally racials need to be impressive and a real choice with in depth customization for classes, think of something like a race talent tree with options
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  11. #71
    I kinda want Saberon as a playable race, a Horde equivalent to the Worgen. (We know they rushed to the Barrens so there is a chance we'll see them cropping up again in their new environment.. plus there are people who'd love to play a bipedal cat person)

    Ogres, I can't see them playable unless Blizz does one of either two things.. make structures in WoW bigger to compensate for the Ogre size.. or Make Ogres smaller. (Option one will be very taxing and requires a lot of work to put in the effort of changing the architecture essentially doing a revamp. Option two will piss off a lot of people because the ogres aren't "accurate size".)

    Naga could also be possible, but unless they're making an underwater expansion.. I can't see them being added in. (We've also never seen the occupy locations too far from the ocean with the only exceptions being that one massive ruined city in Azshara and Blackfathom Deeps which have tunnels filled with water.)

    Sethrak I would like to see as playable, but we need more variation than what BFA gave us. (The Faithless being usually brown/beige in color while the only good Sethrak group is lime green)

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Standard procedure which you've considered to be Woke with the Evoker, no? Aren't you the one also criticizing how they are ruining the game for you with pretty options instead of adhering to previous lore?

    Now you're asking for pretty Ogres.
    What? No. I'm asking for Ogres. Period. They wouldn't be beautiful. They'd be Ogres. In Ancient Rome clothings.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    And I'm not saying they couldn't add one if they wanted to, I'm saying they could opt to omit splitting gendered since they aren't gendering races any more anyways.

    Like even with your example of Ethereals, if they ever did add them they would be split to 'Body type 1' and 'Body type 2' and they just let players imply that one of them is going to represent females, without overtly going out of their way to call it the 'female body option'. And they'll just add NPCs accordingly. There's nothing stopping them from representing females with the current Ethereal model.

    Even if female Ogres exist, they don't need to be given a specific model for it. Ogres being represented by a single body type can remain ambiguous and up to players to decide, just as it exists now.

    Having one body type with no further explanation simply allows people to make up their own conclusion, and Blizzard has already been applying this vagueness to all new race/class comboes and cosmetics that also remain ambiguous, like Dark Ranger Undead Elf skins that work for Paladins and Druids, or Night Elves and Lightforged and Mag'har suddenly having Warlock options.
    Okay ! I get your point now, although I find it kinda meh. Like, they did not gender a race ONCE, and still half gendered it anyway with the visage forms. It's a bit too early to say that like they stopped at all. Even if you consider the Bodytypes 1 and 2 to not be genders, there's still two of them and they are still attached to gendered appearances all of the time but one.

    Although I must agree that in the case of ogres, the Bodytype 1 could be the one headed ogre, while the Bodytype 2 could be the two headed one. The gender of the ogre could be as you say, left ambiguous.

    After all, when I was roleplaying with a friend one day, we came across this kind of ogre and his character dead serious told me : "This is a female ogre, she's wearing a bra."


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    Ogres. Not some half step, mok'nathal bullshit either. Full-on, crush-and-smash ogres. Two-headed mage ones that randomly populate goofy, insane whispers from my toons second head in my chat wndow. Giant ogre warriors cleaving the absolute dogs#!t out of everything within a half acre.

    What's that? Female ogres? Damn straight, 100%. Who cares if they are not fappable, they're f%$king ogres. They aren't supposed to be spank material, you degens. They are supposed to be @$$kicking material.

    What's that? They don't fit in doors? Gimme a button to crawl. Worgen already have it, and the image of my beautiful ogre crawling into the auction house like a drunk dad in a Chucky Cheese ball pit is hilarious and only makes me want one even more.

    Gimme big, brutal, goofy, hilarious ogres. They have been missing since Vanilla, and were one if the original horde races. Do it, Blizz. Don't be cowards.
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  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    Although I must agree that in the case of ogres, the Bodytype 1 could be the one headed ogre, while the Bodytype 2 could be the two headed one. The gender of the ogre could be as you say, left ambiguous.

    After all, when I was roleplaying with a friend one day, we came across this kind of ogre and his character dead serious told me : "This is a female ogre, she's wearing a bra."
    Exactly this, and your friend's example is exactly my point

    I don't think Blizzard should be forced to go into the direction of overtly gendering every playable character. Like even playing Warcraft Rumble right now, they clearly regendered many classic units. The Orc Raider, Frostwolf Shaman, Dwarf Gryphon Rider, Troll Batrider and Stonehoof Tauren are all female. Yet every Ogre in the game is still a single body type, and there is not a single specific 'female' Ogre depicted at all. The ambiguity can persist the exact same way it has IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    What? No. I'm asking for Ogres. Period. They wouldn't be beautiful. They'd be Ogres. In Ancient Rome clothings.
    If you're asking for a female Ogre option, that's exactly what you're asking for. Pretty Ogre body type.

    What else would a female Ogre option be? You even mentioned Shrek, and Fiona is a 'pretty Ogre' by all standards. She's not as ugly as Shrek is, she's a prettier version of an Ogre.

    I would probably lean towards what Datoffer said, with Body type 1 being 1 headed Ogre, body type 2 being 2 headed Ogre. We don't really need them to be gendered into Shrek body type and Fiona body type.
    Last edited by Triceron; 2023-09-12 at 06:45 PM.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Exactly this, and your friend's example is exactly my point

    I don't think Blizzard should be forced to go into the direction of overtly gendering every playable character. Like even playing Warcraft Rumble right now, they clearly regendered many classic units. The Orc Raider, Frostwolf Shaman, Dwarf Gryphon Rider, Troll Batrider and Stonehoof Tauren are all female. Yet every Ogre in the game is still a single body type, and there is not a single specific 'female' Ogre depicted at all. The ambiguity can persist the exact same way it has IMO.
    I honestly think Blizzard is just scared to make fat ugly monstrous women.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by DatToffer View Post
    I honestly think Blizzard is just scared to make fat ugly monstrous women.
    They just not interested in that direction.

    I mean this was what the Troll Female originally looked like

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    They just not interested in that direction.

    I mean this was what the Troll Female originally looked like
    They made blood elves females part of the Horde like two years later. What was the heckin' point of embellishing the troll women ?

  19. #79
    I want to see something new and daring.
    Four legged dryads, or flying fairies etc.
    A race that does not conform to the more humanoid and familiar aspects as offered currently.

    For a more traditional choice though, i am still really disappointed they never introduced Sethrak.

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    Happy with anything below.

    Alliance:
    Jinyu: Creating and underwater city like Gunga City from Star Wars, somewhere on a small atol at the edge of Vash'ir.
    Sylvar: Colonizing forests. Maybe Feralas, giving the Alliance another foothold on the west coast of Kalimdor, since the elven tree burned.
    Furbolg: An arctic version of them, with settlements in Winterspring. Also a foothold on Kalimdor near the Dreanei.

    Horde:
    Saberon: Roaming the Barrens & Desolace, invited into Orgrimmar or Thunderbluff.
    Arrakoa: Taking over and rebuilding the western part of Quel'Thalas as another paladin society.
    Venthyr: Building cities underground below Lordaeron and the Plaguelands connecting the Fosaken with Quel'Thalas.


    note: I know Venthyr and Sylvar are denizens of the shadowlands, but the mortals could travel there as well. Also the Forsaken are a kind of undead.
    Since its a fantasy game, anything is possible.

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