The people asking for WoW 2

[Logwyn]

For the sake of argument, let's assume you're right. Let's just assume you're right: just 'same drops, different numbers'.

You do know that Diablo III gained a full new expansion called "Reaper of Souls", right? Released two years after D3's release. So, tell me again how was Diablo III "abandoned soon after release" again?

Never said it was abandoned after release. What happened after that expansion? Nothing pretty much.

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Did you know there are new dungeons and raids every season now?

That's a real question because it often seems like very few people here play the game lol

In Diablo?

[Low Hanging Fruit]

What does this even mean? Is this one of the boomer "addons ruined WoW" regurgitated opinions?

I think it means you like just looking at your status on 3rd party websites and having a really stale game.

[FelPlague]

You are just wrong, especially about D2 and FF14. People in the D2 community aren't unhappy about lack of content. We are unhappy about bad story, relentless microtransactions, and stale seasonal systems.

Not true at all, I play d2 as do my friends, Nd it has been a massive complaint the lack of content, especially with the *new* content most of the time just being seasonal stuff that is not really new. Especially since most of that "new" content is just stuff on the store.

Oh also ff14 literally has a massive uproar right now in its community about "game is dying" cause how many subs it's losing from how long content is taking to come out. I'm sure it will rocket back up once their new expansion comes out, but saying ff14 does not have a content delivery problem is false.

[Ielenia]

Never said it was abandoned after release. What happened after that expansion? Nothing pretty much.

The simple fact it gained an expansion debunks the other poster's claim that Diablo III was "abandoned shortly after launch".

[NineSpine]

Not true at all, I play d2 as do my friends, Nd it has been a massive complaint the lack of content, especially with the *new* content most of the time just being seasonal stuff that is not really new. Especially since most of that "new" content is just stuff on the store.

Which season did not have new content? Let's be specific, since we both play the game.

Oh also ff14 literally has a massive uproar right now in its community about "game is dying" cause how many subs it's losing from how long content is taking to come out. I'm sure it will rocket back up once their new expansion comes out, but saying ff14 does not have a content delivery problem is false.

They have a major patch every ~4 months and these patches have been jam packed during Endwalker.

[panda040]

the game needs what ffxiv did so long ago, giant void meteor crashes down deletes EVERYTHING. Then watch the playerbase freakout as we all start over again.

[Lewe]

WoW 2 will be classic+

[Biomega]

the game needs what ffxiv did so long ago, giant void meteor crashes down deletes EVERYTHING. Then watch the playerbase freakout as we all start over again.

"Are you okay there, bud? That Hogger guy knocked you out real bad, you were unconscious for quite a while. Hope you had nice dreams, haha! Come on, let's turn this quest in and head over to Westfall next."

[vincink]

After reading the title of this post, I was really hoping the post would say: "F*** off." Not because I agree with that statement but because it'd be funny.

[Nite92]

Separate servers...always should be seen as an alternative.

And the moment this goes live, MMO-C goes crazy with "Why does X version get Y, I want Y too".

[Soon-TM]

"Are you okay there, bud? That Hogger guy knocked you out real bad, you were unconscious for quite a while. Hope you had nice dreams, haha! Come on, let's turn this quest in and head over to Westfall next."

It could actually be not that bad... As long as Danuser isn't allowed anywhere near pen and paper.

[saixilein]

Ok, maybe graphics engine was wrong choice to describe what an upgrade from WoW 1 to 2 would entail. Would you prefer if I said WoW 2 would probably be more realistic and detailed over the stylized cartoon aesthetic that WoW 1 has. And if WoW 2 doesn't change the graphics "style" from WoW 1, what would be the point of WoW 2?

When we think about Overwatch 2, wow 2 could be the exact same game, but with worse monetarization, a 2-3 year long content hole and a pissed Community

Kappa

[Vongimi]

Again. Wow 2 isn't needed. Major reason, why we hate Diablo 3 and love Wow - because Diablo 3 has been abandoned not long after it's release, while Wow has so called "endless progression" system. Pruning has already caused enough damage to Wow. Progression reset would be complete disaster. Devs should think about making NEW content. Old content should stay where it is.

Wait... side tangent. I'm in total agreement with no WoW 2, but D3 was abandoned right after release?!?! Its been out for over 11 YEARS and still getting updates! What?!

[Logwyn]

The simple fact it gained an expansion debunks the other poster's claim that Diablo III was "abandoned shortly after launch".

Yet you responded to me randomly then?

[Ielenia]

Yet you responded to me randomly then?

Excuse you? You were the one who replied to me first when I replied to the other poster.

[panda040]

"Are you okay there, bud? That Hogger guy knocked you out real bad, you were unconscious for quite a while. Hope you had nice dreams, haha! Come on, let's turn this quest in and head over to Westfall next."

unfathomably based

people forget that wow was about exploration and immersing yourself in the world, being just an "adventurer" not collecting 1000's of mounts and achievments

[NineSpine]

unfathomably based

people forget that wow was about exploration and immersing yourself in the world, being just an "adventurer" not collecting 1000's of mounts and achievments

That's why HC has been such a big hit. It legitimately has brought back those feelings.

[Orby]

Does anyone really still want wow 2? I want a revamp... but i don't want to loose nearly 2 decades of stuff i gathered....

I mean its gonna have to end eventually :P

[InfiniteCharger]

WOW 2 is needed primarily because the core story and characters from the RTS that the MMO was built around are basically all used up. All they have been doing since the launch is gradually watering that story down and retconning it in various ways in new xpacs. As a result you got a game that is a frankenstein monster of quests, story lines that exist outside the current story in different zones. Then on top of that the game play of the MMO took the races of the RTS and merged them into factions for game play purposes. Because the original purpose was primarily for questing and dungeons not actual PVP, which is why there were no arenas in vanilla. So the game was never about war in the open world in a real sense because the engine couldn't support it and didn't have it.

Then on top of that, the original classes were very D&D inspired and even had things like weapon skills and CC an buffs as core elements. But people somehow didn't like that some classes were too "niche" and didn't have identity outside the specific utilities they brought. And it was funny at the time having players in those classes in PUGs not even knowing how to use their utilities correctly which were critical. So over time the classes have been revamped multiple times and now they are totally different than they originally were.

Leaving a game that is almost 20 years old with a bunch of lore that is all over the place and classes at various states of disrepair. And looking at the expansions you see how badly the lore was butchered for the sake of making expansions and things to do. TBC retconned the Eredar and Sargeras and co being pure evil and demons, which part of the bigger problem of how these expansions work. The you had WOTLK where they tried to wrap up the entire undead/scourge story line but wound up just keeping them around anyway. Because they cannot really expand the lore in a real story driven way because the world is populated with players who like their zones. But much of the problem revolves around the original story of the races in WOW, especially how human and elven society was destroyed in the past. So there aren't many towns and cultures to explore within the world except for making up new ones for an expansion such as Legion. And Legion even went further in destroying the lore of classes and abilities in universe in terms of arcane, druids and magic which was a shame. Instead of expanding on the possibilities of classes they limited them further using artifacts and weapons as a substitute for actual skills. Not to mention we as players fought against literal demi gods in the universe and then went to the realm of death itself.

So all of that to say, much of all this history of accumulated revisions to the lore and story have not left the game in a good state.
But would WOW 2 really fix it? Would they really be able to revamp Azeroth and fix classes and abilities? Would they really fix raiding and dungeons? Would they really be able to fix the lore in terms of Azeroth the titan in the planet and the situation concerning the old gods and pantheon? Would they really fix the legion story line? Would they really fix the status of the undead/scourge given that they cant get rid of a playable race. Not really sure how WOW 2 would fix those things because it would have to use the current WOW in whatever state it is in as a starting point. It isn't like starting from the RTS as a greenfield evolution of the story.

[NineSpine]

Not true at all, I play d2 as do my friends, Nd it has been a massive complaint the lack of content, especially with the *new* content most of the time just being seasonal stuff that is not really new. Especially since most of that "new" content is just stuff on the store.

Oh also ff14 literally has a massive uproar right now in its community about "game is dying" cause how many subs it's losing from how long content is taking to come out. I'm sure it will rocket back up once their new expansion comes out, but saying ff14 does not have a content delivery problem is false.

Still waiting to hear what D2 season had no new content...