The people asking for WoW 2

[GabrielKnight]

unfathomably based

people forget that wow was about exploration and immersing yourself in the world, being just an "adventurer" not collecting 1000's of mounts and achievments

That's why HC has been such a big hit. It legitimately has brought back those feelings.

This. I'm having an absolute blast in HC, I thought it was going to be horrible but I can't stop playing. Not sure how long is going to last, but for the moment, I'm enjoying it like never before. The game is just so good, it's proof that you don't need to put out content all the time, just do something right and it'll be timeless.

Also, everybody is friendly and willing to socialize, make groups, and help each other. The whole "OMG people won't want to socialize anymore!" is such a lame argument, you just have to provide the need for it.

[NineSpine]

This. I'm having an absolute blast in HC, I thought it was going to be horrible but I can't stop playing. Not sure how long is going to last, but for the moment, I'm enjoying it like never before. The game is just so good, it's proof that you don't need to put out content all the time, just do something right and it'll be timeless.

Also, everybody is friendly and willing to socialize, make groups, and help each other. The whole "OMG people won't want to socialize anymore!" is such a lame argument, you just have to provide the need for it.

When Classic came out it had that feeling for quite awhile, but it faded due to GDKP and raid buffs damaging the social aspects, plus once the leveling experience had fewer players involved it became a big problem. HC has negated all those issues, and it's really an amazing lesson in game design that provides a stark counterpoint to how the designers approach retail. All it took was one tweak to the game rules and suddenly everything changes, as opposed to the constant over-engineered nonsense we get in retail, piling complex solutions on top of each other to solve the issues caused by the last complex solution.

[Lewe]

Wow 2 exists, it's called "The Burning Crusade".

Christ....

It will be called classic+

[Khain]

WoW 2 would be cool, but classic+ is by far the best risk they can take seeing how popular the sentiment of nostalgia for the Blizzard of old is.

[FelPlague]

Still waiting to hear what D2 season had no new content...

??? Not no new content, too big of gaps between too little content.

[Gaidax]

WoW 2 would be cool, but classic+ is by far the best risk they can take seeing how popular the sentiment of nostalgia for the Blizzard of old is.

I think Classic HD could have been cool. All the new models, visually improved areas, dungeons and raids and then maybe completely reworked TBC including the story.

[Biomega]

I think Classic HD could have been cool. All the new models, visually improved areas, dungeons and raids and then maybe completely reworked TBC including the story.

The problem with this is people's impossible expectations.

"I want that thing I once knew, but I want it to be new and updated, but also exactly the same as it used to be, please. But brand-new, too."

[Khain]

I think Classic HD could have been cool. All the new models, visually improved areas, dungeons and raids and then maybe completely reworked TBC including the story.

No, new graphics would completely kill the vibe of classic, and many classic enjoyers hate them.

[Gaidax]

No, new graphics would completely kill the vibe of classic, and many classic enjoyers hate them.

Fuck 'em.

All this holdout bullshit is getting too old. Yes, there are some purists who play classic because fucking 2004 textures and 100 polygon models, but there is equal if not greater amount of people sitting on the wall because they can't bring themselves to play a game that looks like literal ass in 2023.

So yes, retail+ graphics, but no retail BS systems would probably be quite a deal.

Don't be the "you think you do, but you don't" guy.

[GabrielKnight]

Fuck 'em.

Yeah, fuck the players that keep that version alive. Let's create one that they don't like so it thrives with players that won't like it at all! Sounds like an actual idea from the current Blizzard team.

[Hofflerand]

Yes, there are some purists who play classic because fucking 2004 textures and 100 polygon models, but there is equal if not greater amount of people sitting on the wall because they can't bring themselves to play a game that looks like literal ass in 2023.

So yes, retail+ graphics, but no retail BS systems would probably be quite a deal.

This is where I'm at. I don't play either Retail or Classic because what I really want is a mix of the two. But it's hard to say how many people feel this way, and even if by some chance we're the majority, we surely have different opinions as to what that mix should entail.

[NineSpine]

??? Not no new content, too big of gaps between too little content.

We get a season every 3 months. Which season are you talking about?

[FelPlague]

We get a season every 3 months. Which season are you talking about?

https://gamerant.com/bungie-no-comme...iny-2-content/
Some good example

[NineSpine]

https://gamerant.com/bungie-no-comme...iny-2-content/
Some good example

This is about missing cosmetics. Let's try again.

[WowIsDead64]

I don't like this take and I don't think Old content should stay where it is exaclty like it is now. Wow feels extremely bloated right now putting off new players. While I don't agree to make an entire new game form scratch.

Keeping adding new content over new content is a short term solution for an addicted playerbase, but what do you do when those people slowly quit the game?

That's why I would like for wow to get a revamp expansion and update the old world to make it fresh and less bloated but keep most dungeons, rewards and legacy achievements for people to farm.

Shouldn't it be opposite? Aren't tons of content, accumulated for years, good thing for players? Isn't lack of content on start - major reason, why new MMOs can't launch? What you ask for - is actually deadly for this game. Blizzard don't have resources to provide lots of new content.

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Wait... side tangent. I'm in total agreement with no WoW 2, but D3 was abandoned right after release?!?! Its been out for over 11 YEARS and still getting updates! What?!

What we as players expect - is endless "You buy DLC - we make new one for you using your money" support cycle. Releasing just one DLC and then nothing for 11 years - is abandoning game, yeah.

[Civciv]

https://gamerant.com/bungie-no-comme...iny-2-content/
Some good example

Lacking reading comprehension I see

[Shadowferal]

I don't like this take and I don't think Old content should stay where it is exaclty like it is now. Wow feels extremely bloated right now putting off new players. While I don't agree to make an entire new game form scratch.
Keeping adding new content over new content is a short term solution for an addicted playerbase, but what do you do when those people slowly quit the game?

You're seeing the problem but I believe you're misinterpreting it.
The first nine years of the game was all about an addicted playerbase that kept paying on their respective subscriptions without cancelation.
Nowadays it's all about playing and paying for a month or two and canceling the subscription. And Blizz has no one to blame but themselves for what should be realistically seen as an immense loss of annual revenue. They created the situation they're in now.

That's why I would like for wow to get a revamp expansion and update the old world to make it fresh and less bloated but keep most dungeons, rewards and legacy achievements for people to farm.

They need to reinvent the wheel. And to me that means overhauling everything about the game. Make one curious about every zone, from the environment, to the in-zone stories. No more rush! rush! to max level, no more buying boosts (worst idea ever for keeping interested players subbed.) Keep players interested in their respective race and class.

[Beet]

should consider that wow 2 would be made by those who made shadowlands and are in charge for the current game. Let that sink for a minute. I can't see how it could ever happen.

Yeah that’s why I don’t want it unless Metzen somehow got full control of it. I don’t like the work done by the current developers. I don’t like the art either. Seeing the dracthyr as a furry(scalie) instead of looking like actual Warcraft dragonoids was enough for me to get over the art design. I didn’t even need to see the artists Twitter where they admit they designed it after tumblr scalie shit to know it was scalie influenced lmao

I also know the WoW 2 would be full of microtransaction garbage and battle passes since the player base stopped boycotting it and embraced it. It’s quite hilarious, if you go watch old videos it’s amazing when you realize the community used to be so happy we paid a monthly sub for WoW because it kept all the store shit out of the game. Whereas we knew f2p games had to have it. But now look, WoW uses the model of a f2p game while also charging a sub fee lmfao

Yeah this Blizzard is -nothing- like the old Blizzard. Somehow they did more with less, it’s wild.

[Zaqwert]

People seem to not grasp that WoW 2 already happened. Cataclysm was effectively WoW 2.0 At this point we're probably at about WoW 4.x

Because changes happen gradually, patch by patch and expansion by expansion, they can call it the same game when it's clearly not.

Sequels for currently popular online games are usually a big fail. It's much safer to just morph your game gradually over time.

[FelPlague]

We get a season every 3 months. Which season are you talking about?

reminder, destiny 2 is doing fine.