WoW Classic Hardcore - EU Servers Lag Update

[Cyraxe]

The no revival motto of Blizzard has been going on since their HC Diablo days and even current HC Diablo. Thousands of people have died countless times due to server instability and you just have to deal with it. There is no reason that system should be changed just for an old iteration of WoW.

[Veggie50]

Everyone loves hc! Untill they die

[Just Passing through]

I understand everyone who is frustrated - coming from Diablo 2 hardcore, dying sucks and it "ruined " may approch to WoW in that I have tried since 2005 to level chars without dying.

Best attempt in Vanilla was a priest, died at lv 52 in 2005 due to server lag pre-maintenace.

Also I understand, why Blizzard has been reluctant to introduce Hardcore - this thread, even with just a few complaining posts of "dude, you are not respecting my time, I quit" is proof enough.

...and there are such things as you connection and PC sucking, as I have seen enough time in pre-patch events, when ppl wher doing their usual "lol, small indie company" shit, while my connection was smooth and my fps as well.

In this case, I understand their: "We will not revive a character under whatever reasons" policy. that they hadf since D2 days at least

Take some fucking responsibility for your decisions. Hell and Heaven knows, it is what this world needs

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Everyone loves hc! Untill they die

Words to live by. But I still always ask myself first "What could I have done" - latest death of a character at lv 64 I tried to level without dying (so not true Classic Hardcore) was to Fyrrak razing the lands. Should have checked the map first. Maybe on another char. Maybe I could have avoided it with cooldowns, but I paniced...

Sure..I can still play the character, but it is a second ahsman on an allied race...so I lost interest. It kinda became a real HC death.

[kranur]

But what if you got a power outage, would you cry to blizzard then as well?

How the fuck is that the same thing, just because it ends in death? A person having a power outage affects that person. Blizzard having outages that affect thousands playing at time is an completely different thing.
Now sure, at this point, after the D4 fiasco of deaths, everyone should know what they're getting into but this doesn't mean Blizzard shouldn't give the slightest crap about this and have some sort of plan in case shit goes down on their end.
Imagine getting a car and crash into a tree with it because it suddenly stopped obeying the controls and then someone says "well you could have have started fucking around in the car and lost control anyway, give them a break"

[Dapinor]

How the fuck is that the same thing, just because it ends in death? A person having a power outage affects that person. Blizzard having outages that affect thousands playing at time is an completely different thing.
Now sure, at this point, after the D4 fiasco of deaths, everyone should know what they're getting into but this doesn't mean Blizzard shouldn't give the slightest crap about this and have some sort of plan in case shit goes down on their end.
Imagine getting a car and crash into a tree with it because it suddenly stopped obeying the controls and then someone says "well you could have have started fucking around in the car and lost control anyway, give them a break"

Buhu, git good instead of dying

[OokOok]

I understand everyone who is frustrated - coming from Diablo 2 hardcore, dying sucks and it "ruined " may approch to WoW in that I have tried since 2005 to level chars without dying.

Best attempt in Vanilla was a priest, died at lv 52 in 2005 due to server lag pre-maintenace.

Also I understand, why Blizzard has been reluctant to introduce Hardcore - this thread, even with just a few complaining posts of "dude, you are not respecting my time, I quit" is proof enough.

...and there are such things as you connection and PC sucking, as I have seen enough time in pre-patch events, when ppl wher doing their usual "lol, small indie company" shit, while my connection was smooth and my fps as well.

In this case, I understand their: "We will not revive a character under whatever reasons" policy. that they hadf since D2 days at least

Take some fucking responsibility for your decisions. Hell and Heaven knows, it is what this world needs

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Words to live by. But I still always ask myself first "What could I have done" - latest death of a character at lv 64 I tried to level without dying (so not true Classic Hardcore) was to Fyrrak razing the lands. Should have checked the map first. Maybe on another char. Maybe I could have avoided it with cooldowns, but I paniced...

Sure..I can still play the character, but it is a second ahsman on an allied race...so I lost interest. It kinda became a real HC death.

The funny thing with you using D2 as an example is that D2 was over 20 years ago and had better server with dial-up. Here we are in 2023, most people have gig connections and yet people are getting killed by lag on Blizzard servers. it's seems Blizzard is still running on those 90s servers

[JSoup]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com...ld-of-warcraft

I don't see the "When our Servers suck, we don't care"-Section here.

It's in the giant wall of text that pops up in your face when you make a new HC character. It says in bright, bold, glowing white text that lag and DC deaths will happen.

[Vintersol]

Words to live by. But I still always ask myself first "What could I have done" - latest death of a character at lv 64 I tried to level without dying (so not true Classic Hardcore) was to Fyrrak razing the lands. Should have checked the map first. Maybe on another char. Maybe I could have avoided it with cooldowns, but I paniced...

Sure..I can still play the character, but it is a second ahsman on an allied race...so I lost interest. It kinda became a real HC death.

In my case, i got dismounted on a flightpath because of a zone transfer that has been failed (i suspect the layering feature). I played 3 - 4 hours at that time without any problem, no lags or whatever. I got dismounted, falling to the ground and dead.

[cityguy193]

But what if you got a power outage, would you cry to blizzard then as well?

Would you cry to blizzard if they show up to your house and burn it to the ground? Sounds just as ridiculous.

Hardcore is flawed if the deaths can 100% be attributed to blizzards incompetence.

[Just Passing through]

The funny thing with you using D2 as an example is that D2 was over 20 years ago and had better server with dial-up. Here we are in 2023, most people have gig connections and yet people are getting killed by lag on Blizzard servers. it's seems Blizzard is still running on those 90s servers

Well..if you want to look it just at the way of "it can only be Blizzard server lag" and are computer savy enough to convince me that it is an nothing can ever go wrong in between (go ahead and google just how angry ppl get at Telkom or Vodafone services) - or that it is absolutely not possible that you have a shit connection and you kids also streams Netflix etc...then I guess you are right.

But as you see my D2 example as a problem, I see you blaming everything on Blizzard as a problem. Yes...they 100% work on 90s servers and there should be ways to validate that.

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In my case, i got dismounted on a flightpath because of a zone transfer that has been failed (i suspect the layering feature). I played 3 - 4 hours at that time without any problem, no lags or whatever. I got dismounted, falling to the ground and dead.

Actually something that never happened to me in almost 20 years..not saying it didn't happen..it is just freakish. Would compare it to the times I fell through the world.

Yeah..even to this day I sometimes lose connection and I always immediately check if my Internet is down or something.

With all the Hardcore or self imposed hardcore deaths I had...I am still tempted. But in the end, I fear it is the game "Classic" that would put me off. I mean...I played Classic WotLK for some kind of mount or so reward, levelled a Deathknight. And WotLK was my favorite expansion. But actually playing it in 2023 again was like...OMG...this is not what I want to relive....I rather have my memories which turn out to be rose tinted goggles.

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Would you cry to blizzard if they show up to your house and burn it to the ground? Sounds just as ridiculous.

Hardcore is flawed if the deaths can 100% be attributed to blizzards incompetence.

I would like the opinion of an IT or Programmer on this, what you call "incompetence"

But even if it is possible...well...then Hardcore is flawed and with that knowledge..don't play it. How many disclaimers do you want? Would you be happy if they actually said "we accept no responsibility, even if it is due to our incompetence" or did I discover in this thread that whatever the male equivalent to a "Karen" actually exist?

[reemi]

Nothing new here, who never died because the a server crash or lag, or internet lag or own pc crash...?

a HC character is only a "temporary" character you can play on that HC realm.

At same time, you can transfert your character to another Classic ERA realm if you REALLY want to play THAT character.

Next time click Decline...

[Dapinor]

Would you cry to blizzard if they show up to your house and burn it to the ground? Sounds just as ridiculous.

Hardcore is flawed if the deaths can 100% be attributed to blizzards incompetence.

Why would blizzard burn my house down?

I assume you would blame blizzard if your Internet connection got screwed and you died, if your pc crashed out of nowhere as well.

[SinR]

Thanks for not respecting my time. I lost my rogue during a flight and got dismounted midair after the message "Transfer aborted: Instance not found" appeared. Such statements are a slap in the face.

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Let's take it back to the Diablo II days:

[Zka]

Blizz should 100% own up and fix their shit.
If chars die because your server dies, resurrect these chars and fix your shit. If chars die because they fall through terrain, resurrect these chars and fix your shit. I could go on.
I know their rules state they won't do this. But they should do this because "we don't care about your lost gametime even if WE fucked up and WE could definitely fix it" just reeks of greed.

[Mendzia]

This is the exact reason i did not even start my own journey in HC.
I knew it will happen...



... but it is still so funny seeing mad people first agreeing to this and then crying, LOL.

[crusadernero]

Its an online game, lots can happen at any given time. Thats the risk you take when playing a HC character. We know, you know, Blizzard knows. You literally agree to this before creating your first HC char.

Does it suck? For sure. Will it happen again? for sure. When? Who knows!


Personally I find it fun and relaxing playing on a HC server. No, I dont have any high lvl chars yet. Yes, i've died a couple of times. I just go again. For me, the leveling is like 99% of the game in HC mode. Its a challenge to try out. Im in no rush either.


Also - by the looks of it when logging in, it doesnt seems like people are so angry they dont want to play. Huge activity all over the place. Packed!

[erifwodahs]

Thanks for not respecting my time. I lost my rogue during a flight and got dismounted midair after the message "Transfer aborted: Instance not found" appeared. Such statements are a slap in the face.

You play on HC realm, it's you who doesn't respect your time if you are not willing to accept death for whatever reason. You can always move to era tho, your character is not lost.

[Vintersol]

era realms are shotholes communitywise.

[cityguy193]

Why would blizzard burn my house down?

I assume you would blame blizzard if your Internet connection got screwed and you died, if your pc crashed out of nowhere as well.

I understand reading comprehension is hard for you.

I am talking about 100% blizzard attributed problems causing hardcore deaths. Think of server crashes, Metzen unplugging the power at blizzard HQ, blizzard stealing your PC. Along those lines. Blizzard should own up to their own shit, excusing them is pathetic for both you and them.