Multiple new classes coming in World Soul Saga

[SlipperyMurloc]

One of the bigger spanish WoW content creators, AlterTimeSK (who also runs the biggest spanish WoW news website: altertime) claimed on his 11/07 twitch stream that a wow dev accidentally revealed to his team during an interview the exact number of new classes (full blown classes, not specs) coming to world of warcraft during the world soul saga expansions.
He didn't wanted to reveal the number to his audience but stated that is bigger than 1.

Some kind of holy fire wielder class coming in the war within?

Source: (i can't post videos or links yet, but I've subtitled a youtube video with the fragment of the stream where he talks about it) youtube.com/watch?v=KsoK06QIzM4

[Supertoster]

Spealbreaker for Midnight, because elves. Or something void related.
Tinker for Last Titan, because titans = tech.

[username993720]

I just hope they're not made up like Evokers and are already established. Or, at least, fully delivered and not just partly.

[PenguinChan]

Well we know it's at least 2 then, but 3 would be pretty nutty. It's possible that they'll pull an Evoker Augmentation spec except for a whole entire class. Planned to release mid-expansion to create a ton of hype 'because that'll never happen' type situation.

[deenman]

he proly mispoke,no way we getting atleast 2 full blown classes in 2 expansions,maybe he ment alied race or spec

[Skirdus]

I feel like if a new class was planned for TWW specifically then it would have been announced alongside the expansion itself. That's not usually the kind of feature you reserve for a later date, especially with them wanting to get in as many pre-orders as humanly possible.

Hell, they've gone so far as to promise planned features that didn't even end up making the cut (dance studio, path of the titans, etc.)

[M1r4g3]

I feel like if a new class was planned for TWW specifically then it would have been announced alongside the expansion itself. That's not usually the kind of feature you reserve for a later date, especially with them wanting to get in as many pre-orders as humanly possible.

Hell, they've gone so far as to promise planned features that didn't even end up making the cut (dance studio, path of the titans, etc.)

Its possible they held off on announcing that for later on to pump up pre-orders closer to launch(or at some specific time when people are most likely to buy)

[Puupi]

I feel like if a new class was planned for TWW specifically then it would have been announced alongside the expansion itself. That's not usually the kind of feature you reserve for a later date, especially with them wanting to get in as many pre-orders as humanly possible.

Hell, they've gone so far as to promise planned features that didn't even end up making the cut (dance studio, path of the titans, etc.)

Normally I would agree on them not holding back expansion features. This time, however, I think it's possible. Blizzard knew players would be awestruck with the three expansions reveal and the story involved, Metzen's charisma etc.

They already got players hooked - so now if they got a big special class reveal to publish later on,,, that would turn the hype train to 110% and create another burst of pre-orders. They could show it out once the alpha starts.

[Nymrohd]

he proly mispoke,no way we getting atleast 2 full blown classes in 2 expansions,maybe he ment alied race or spec

An arcane melee spellcaster that covers the classic High/Blood elf Spellbreaker and the Nightborne Spellblade should happen eventually. This is one of the most popular archetypes, especially when it comes to elves, in fantasy fiction at large and very much present in Warcraft itself.

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Normally I would agree on them not holding back expansion features. This time, however, I think it's possible. Blizzard knew players would be awestruck with the three expansions reveal and the story involved, Metzen's charisma etc.

They already got players hooked - so now if they got a big special class reveal to publish later on,,, that would turn the hype train to 110% and create another burst of pre-orders. They could show it out once the alpha starts.

There could also be a case similar with Augmentation when they planned it for release but they could not get it to work because of some unique mechanic and they are unsure if they will manage so better to not promise something you cannot deliver.
If they had actually worked more on the Garrison before the WoD Blizzcon and actually had it in a decent state, perhaps they would not have had to completely reverse on it.

[pacotaco]

Well we know it's at least 2 then, but 3 would be pretty nutty. It's possible that they'll pull an Evoker Augmentation spec except for a whole entire class. Planned to release mid-expansion to create a ton of hype 'because that'll never happen' type situation.

It enters in the realm of possibility. For DF they:
- Reworked completely 36 specs before release + a new class with 2 specs (38 specs)
- During the expansion they added 1 extra spec, reworked Retribution from scratch, and revamped how many specs? 6?

For TWW they are adding 39 super-limited mini specs. So it's not completely crazy they add something along the way.

Still, I won't get my hopes high, because they'd probably announced it at Blizzcon.

[Pyrophax]

It make sense btw. In WW - there is no place for new class. What class can sold underground expansion with old gods, nerubs and proto-dwarves? To be big and juicy annonce? Earthdigger? Excavator? bug-exterminator? Hero specs are better as expansion agnostic feature.
For Midnight - rather something Voidy or Elven. So either elven battlemage (as spellbreaker, something like melee mage style class. I rather make arcane spec melee btw, but its totally on me) to fit to all elves or new Void class.
And for LT - surely some titan-based. So Tinkers are really good option for LT.

[pacotaco]

Spealbreaker for Midnight, because elves. Or something void related.
Tinker for Last Titan, because titans = tech.

For Midnight, maybe a Night Warrior class, as they are the main Old God killers from what we get from the NW storyline in Shadowlands.

[Segus1992]

Well we know it's at least 2 then, but 3 would be pretty nutty. It's possible that they'll pull an Evoker Augmentation spec except for a whole entire class. Planned to release mid-expansion to create a ton of hype 'because that'll never happen' type situation.

We KNOW? You're just gonna accept it at face value?

There's no way in hell they'll release a class mid expansion, that should be extremely obvious. What they want is expansion sales above all - Augmentation was either deemed not necessary to create expansion hype or it wasn't finished. An entire class would not get the same treatment.

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It make sense btw.

It doesn't, but huffing hopium is fun.

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It enters in the realm of possibility. For DF they:
- Reworked completely 36 specs before release + a new class with 2 specs (38 specs)
- During the expansion they added 1 extra spec, reworked Retribution from scratch, and revamped how many specs? 6?

For TWW they are adding 39 super-limited mini specs. So it's not completely crazy they add something along the way.

Still, I won't get my hopes high, because they'd probably announced it at Blizzcon.

IF we're getting new classes again ever, it's 100% guaranteed it won't be for TWW since it wasn't announced. Class announcements are huge for expansion sales, and sales started after the opening ceremony.

Also, what makes the Ret rework grander in scale than the other reworks? Even Holy Paladin got a bigger rework in my eyes.

[pacotaco]

he proly mispoke,no way we getting atleast 2 full blown classes in 2 expansions,maybe he ment alied race or spec

Maybe, but in the video he remarks that they pretty sure meant classes and not specs.

[Auxis]

I feel like if a new class was planned for TWW specifically then it would have been announced alongside the expansion itself. That's not usually the kind of feature you reserve for a later date, especially with them wanting to get in as many pre-orders as humanly possible.

Hell, they've gone so far as to promise planned features that didn't even end up making the cut (dance studio, path of the titans, etc.)

One of the replies in MrGM's interview with some devs was this:

The intent is to have content updates happening around every 8 weeks, and to keep doing that until the expansion releases. They're not ready to talk about them in detail, but they are very exciting and include a lot of things that players have been asking for... as well as some surprises that nobody has any idea are coming.

Source - https://www.wowhead.com/news/wow-dev...nown-in-336028

What if - and this is a big if - they drop a new class or specs after 10.2? There will be no more raids (besides Fated) so it wouldn't conflict with new seasons, and it'd give players time to try out the new class/spec and let Blizz balance them before TWW. And by the sounds of it they have several 10.x.x's planned to fill out the gap between expansions.

EDIT: I just realized it's about the Saga, not TWW. My bad.
I still stand by my point though. Maybe not a full class in a future 10.x.x patch, but they could drop a new spec or 2.

[Lolites]

bug-exterminator

could be cool

For Midnight - rather something Voidy or Elven. So either elven battlemage (as spellbreaker, something like melee mage style class. I rather make arcane spec melee btw, but its totally on me) to fit to all elves or new Void class.

i think cool concept would be give horde and ally one class each that they could join later - like spellbreaker for H, warden for A, (since elfs should be focus in midnight), two specs each, both mail wearing class with both combat and magic, show them ingame, training together and later in patch "combine" them, basicaly unlocking spellbreaker spec for warden and vice versa...
hell the 3rd spec could even be shared from begining, dunno what that could be

And for LT - surely some titan-based. So Tinkers are really good option for LT.

im not sure why people connect tinker so much with titans, with exception of Mimiron titans seem to use magic rather than technology

[Pyrophax]

i think cool concept would be give horde and ally one class each that they could join later - like spellbreaker for H, warden for A, (since elfs should be focus in midnight), two specs each, both mail wearing class with both combat and magic, show them ingame, training together and later in patch "combine" them, basicaly unlocking spellbreaker spec for warden and vice versa...
hell the 3rd spec could even be shared from begining, dunno what that could be

It will be massive uproar as soon as it revealed, not even make to live. Look at earthen AR. Like we can assume that nerubs can make second AR after questchain in Aj-Kahet. As Nightborne was. Its just too similar to ignore. But playable classes? I dont see that work.
And Btw i think Warden can be class skin for NE DH, not separate class. They all use glaives, they have Imprison spell, both agile and fast. Rather skin or 3 spec.

im not sure why people connect tinker so much with titans, with exception of Mimiron titans seem to use magic rather than technology

Titan structures and engines are mostly mechanical (more magimech, not purely magic). Look at Ulduar insides, on number of forges in Storm Peaks, Uldum. Look even on latest Uldorus (Tyrhold for new name) - magimech structures.
And if we were teased that focus of LT is Ulduar, and what class can present Ulduar mostly? I think Tinkers are most fitting in that.

[pacotaco]

We KNOW? You're just gonna accept it at face value?

There's no way in hell they'll release a class mid expansion, that should be extremely obvious. What they want is expansion sales above all - Augmentation was either deemed not necessary to create expansion hype or it wasn't finished. An entire class would not get the same treatment.

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It doesn't, but huffing hopium is fun.

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IF we're getting new classes again ever, it's 100% guaranteed it won't be for TWW since it wasn't announced. Class announcements are huge for expansion sales, and sales started after the opening ceremony.

Also, what makes the Ret rework grander in scale than the other reworks? Even Holy Paladin got a bigger rework in my eyes.

AFAIK, Retri was a total rework, while the other spec reworks were more in the line of fixing and tweaking and not completely changing the concept of how the spec should work. But I may be wrong.

Still, it's a lot of work on class design (and new tech for Evokers). Much more than the new hero specs are. That's my point.

Whether they are using that work force for an extra class for TWW or multiple ones for the other 2, I can't say.

[Lolites]

It will be massive uproar as soon as it revealed

oh i know its not gonna happen bcs people would loose it, just saying it would be cool

Titan structures and engines are mostly mechanical (more magimech, not purely magic). Look at Ulduar insides, on number of forges in Storm Peaks, Uldum. Look even on latest Uldorus (Tyrhold for new name) - magimech structures.

i mean as far as we know all mechanics and stuff titans use were made by mimiron, but lets go with titans using combination of technology and magic, but tinkers kinda dont, do they? isnt kinda whole idea of tinker based on technology alone?
idk, to me it sounds like tenuous link at best...

And if we were teased that focus of LT is Ulduar, and what class can present Ulduar mostly? I think Tinkers are most fitting in that.

tbh i would be far less surprised if they came up with something completely new like in case of evoker than if it was tinker
i mean if its tinker im fine with it (if its good ofc), just dont think it would be, if there is class at all

[Shadowferal]

One of the replies in MrGM's interview with some devs was this: Source - https://www.wowhead.com/news/wow-dev...nown-in-336028

Sounds like stuff that no one mentioned because no one wanted...like delves.