Let's talk music

[FelPlague]

I like how in one of your earlier posts you said differing opinions is fine/different people like different things but now you're desperately trying to say why my opinion is wrong.

Because your post was literally you saying their opinion was wrong...

[Ameonna]

I like how in one of your earlier posts you said differing opinions is fine/different people like different things but now you're desperately trying to say why my opinion is wrong. You really can't go around saying people are free to like and dislike something then turn around and call another opinion "bs".

You could have just linked a few or two more too because right now until I get home I can't really watch them. Luckily I have a good memory of things like music hell can even whistle things from some ancient games.

Anyway you linked the other good one being Zuldazar which ironically the Dazaralor raid took a lot and reworked. Rest of them are okish at best imo. Just never got into the music past Legion. If you do that's cool but I personally believe it went downhill with Brower being sacked.

Problem is, you never stated it as a personnal opinion, you always tried to say that Brower was the hanz zimmer of blizzard or something, you never said "imo" you just said it right now in your very last post, but other posts you just tried to say that no bfa had just 2 good musics, while i am sorry but Legion had a tons of lame music....

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Now i guess you can take back what you said.

The only BFA music I can remember is Time and Tide and Classic Battle E.

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Good to know, cause Brower literally worked on some of the music in the new zone so uh yeah.

They're old tracks he made. He's not back at Blizzard.

[FelPlague]

The only BFA music I can remember is Time and Tide and Classic Battle E.

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They're old tracks he made. He's not back at Blizzard.

Old tracks?
you saying he made the songs for 10.2 YEARS ago?
You know he is still working freelance for blizz right?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Old tracks?
you saying he made the songs for 10.2 YEARS ago?
You know he is still working freelance for blizz right?

From Brower:

[Nork]

Yeah. MoP and then especially WoD was the peak. Almost every track was a banger. Then you reach Legion and suddenly most of the soundtrack is a snore with only a handful of worth listening to outside of the game.

Man, objectively, BFA has got one of the best WoW soundtracks ever created.

[Ameonna]

The only BFA music I can remember is Time and Tide and Classic Battle E.

This feels like you did not play bfa with sund on or did not play it at all.

[Ameonna]

Figured if I said something like that people would be able to realise it's an opinion. I edited it for clarity.

I disagree. Legion had some insanely good ambience for me. Highmountain was fucking god tier music. Of course Legion wasn't without it's stinkers. Argus had some really lacklustre music given the really big deal that was made of it.

Past that it just felt lacklustre and really like they got AI to do the music for them.

I don't deny BFA has some good music. Just not as good as past expansions. Shadowlands for me had Ardenweald and that was it.

Not a single piece of DF music intrigued me or felt soothing. Azure Span was probably the worst because it felt like they were trying to do a Grizzly Hills 2.0 and failed miserably imo.

What i will say, that you seem to put Russel Brower on some kind of pantheon, without even noticing that the real themes that you surely like are the ones made by Nael Acree, and he is still working at Blizzard.

[FelPlague]

From Brower:

Well that's news to me, good to know

[Powerogue]

I've caught whiffs of leitmotif from Teldrassil and Suramar in particular, which is really fitting.

This whole zone feels like a love letter to the night elves and everything they've lost. I have not felt more at home in WoW since the moment I appeared on that tree.

To quote Ilthalaine https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Ilthalaine :

"For so long I helped guide young, ambitious elves to find their path.
Now I am at the beginning of my own adventure. I wonder, is this how they felt, stepping into a new grove for the first time?"

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Now i guess you can take back what you said.

Holy shit I never got to appreciate the alliance side nelf warfront music playing that one basically entirely horde side at the time. Wow.

[PumpkinLicker]

Yeah right, you mean the guy who made the annoying Legion music like the "dark titan" theme which is like awful to listen?

Also i will remind you that this was not made by Russel Brwoer :

So yeah, never really understood the Brower bias.

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Funny how the message begins with "do people play wiht music on" and end with "i dont like" its like "i dont like so why other like it?" lmao

And i mean its your right to not like, but dont be surprised others do.

Literally made no comment about other peoples taste. When people ask "do people do x" it's extremely common that they are asking if it's the majority. I know a lot of people have issues reading between the lines though so please let me rephrase.

Do most people listen to the music in wow while they play? Because I personally don't and I thought I was the majority in this case.

Better?

[micwini]

Honestly I just don't see it. Zuldazar and Dazaralor were great, Drustvar and Voldun were ok at most but the rest were so-so.

But as I said different people like different things.

If we're talking a single piece of music I was always quite fond of this

I mean music is very much a subjective thing.
I really liked the boralus and freehold battle themes, the azerite theme, Aszhara battle theme, darkshore night warrior/forsaken themes. Zin aszhari is also great.
the only you linked isn't really great to just listen to, but it's really great ambient soundtrack that fits the mysterious deep underwater vibe.

[Warden907]

DF has the most unremarkable soundtrack after Shadowlands. It's borderline bad, but not as bad as the ear violation that's the Bastion & Kyrian music.

After BFA it was all downhill for some reason. I suspect something fundamental changed in their music making process then.

It's been leaning 'generic MMO music' hard until I heard that Emerald Dream track.

[Ameonna]

DF has the most unremarkable soundtrack after Shadowlands. It's borderline bad, but not as bad as the ear violation that's the Bastion & Kyrian music.

Bastion music bad? What? I guess we did not hear same musics...

[Icecat]

People sleep on 9.2 music. The whole Zereth Mortis soundscape was amazing, and I loved the motifs in the zone and throughout the raid, especially Halondrus and Rygelon. I think the Broker instrumentation throughout Shadowlands was compelling too.

I vehemently think that BFA is the best incarnation of neo-WoW's more cinematic music direction, which is distinct from the ambient music that they shifted away from after MoP. The whole audio treatment of Boralus and Zandalar, the Azerite theme, how epic Mechagon was in general... Really really fucking good.

Legitimately, anyone who claims that WoW music as a whole is "bad," or that an expansion was a complete dud is being straight up philistine. I do find Dragonflight's OST to technically be the worst, but I still love little elements like the banjo in Waking Shores and the horns in Maruukai.

[Xilurm]

There's one track in the game that sounds a lot like the Temple of the Moon music in Darnassus. That was nice.

[Pakheth]

Imo every expansion has really good tracks, very bland tracks and very bad tracks. But with music a lot of it is subjective. I personally can't stand most of the tracks from Cata and WoD, but those expansions also has some real bangers I absolutely love.

Tracks I loved in Cata: Gilneas music in general, Dark Iron, the login screen theme climax. WoD: Talador.

Personally I found a lot of the music in DF to be very good and very easy to hum along to, which in my mind makes it good. If I find tracks to be too noisy and repetitive I tend to hit ctrl+m faster than lightning. Looking at you Orgrimmar main theme.

DF music I like: Parts of Azure Span and the Tuskarr, the Waking Shore, Valdrakken, Titan related stuff.

What I long for are simple more ambient tracks like we had in Vanilla, TBC, Wotlk and MoP. Those tracks had a nice hummable tune with few instrumental components. It lets its tune play a major part and lets that be their major strength. Not everything needs to be super epic all the time, like Legion music was. It got tiresome real fast.

Music from that era I like: Ashenvale, Mulgore, Barrens, Hellfire Peninsula, Terokkar Forest, Howling Fjord, Storm Peaks, Borean Tundra, Grizzly Hills, Jade Forest, parts of Kun-Lai Summit.

Others: Suramar, Stormheim, Anduin's Theme, Zul'dazar, Zin Aszhari.

[Karreck]

If we are being honest, WoW has more bangers than losers when it comes to the area of music. I know it's edgy, hip, and cool to hate on all things modern WoW,, but Shadowlands and Dragonflight have good music too.
Seriously, WoW just has great music. For whatever faults exist in this game, music is not one of them.

[Doffen]

Some parts in ED is pretty good yeah!

Dragonflight overall pretty average I must say. Nothing really stands out, so 10.2 stepped it up for sure.

Best part of this expansion was the music in Court of Stars and Freehold

[Ameonna]

Imo every expansion has really good tracks, very bland tracks and very bad tracks. But with music a lot of it is subjective. I personally can't stand most of the tracks from Cata and WoD, but those expansions also has some real bangers I absolutely love.

Dam finally someone pointed it out!

That's what you get when you use AI to make music rather than composers with a passion for it.

Not sure you have any proof of this and it is very unrespectful on Nael Acree work...