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    Quote Originally Posted by Accendor View Post
    But what about BfA and SL?
    Remember, they were so confidant that BfA was good that we got MULTIPLE fully rendered cinematics.
    What makes you think they weren't good, from their perspective? Both of them sold more copies than the previous expansion, day 1 - Legion did 3.3m day 1, BfA did 3.4m day 1, SL did 3.7m day 1. We don't know sub numbers sadly, and MAUs have got too much going on with other games to be sure, but, those games sold.

    Also, anyone who thinks whether a world revamp happens or not will determine the success of TWW is disconnected from reality on a profound level. The only world revamp we've ever seen was in the same expansion as the biggest DROP in WoW's population in WoW history. So by historical logic, a world revamp = kiss of death.

    That's actually kind of true for some other MMORPGs, hilariously enough.
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    Still delusional thinking. Can't happen.

    What they are doing with Midnight and TLT is how you are gonna get revamps.
    You will never get a full world revamp again. It's impossible. It's the content of 4 expansions in 1.
    Imagine all the dev time that took to make dragonflight and will take to make the next 3 expacs. So 8 years? Will you wait for 8 years of content draught for a world revamp? At that point we might as well get a WoW2.
    The revamps we are getting is how things will go forward. Get used to it. It's the best compromise.

    What you have here are asset upgrades that are part of packages they want to use in building content in the future and are retroactive giving an updated look to the existing content. But, by no means does this even come close to being evidence of a world revamp.
    Otherwise look! They updated the fire cat model from Cataclysm! World revamp confirmed! Oh wait, it was the new patch.
    The old world is not recoverable anymore. A revamp is not enough. The devs make bigger and denser zones now. There is only room for remakes, not revamps. The devs can't work with those old maps anymore for a new expansion. It has to be redone from scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    Still delusional thinking. Can't happen.

    What they are doing with Midnight and TLT is how you are gonna get revamps.
    You will never get a full world revamp again. It's impossible. It's the content of 4 expansions in 1.
    Imagine all the dev time that took to make dragonflight and will take to make the next 3 expacs. So 8 years? Will you wait for 8 years of content draught for a world revamp? At that point we might as well get a WoW2.
    The revamps we are getting is how things will go forward. Get used to it. It's the best compromise.

    What you have here are asset upgrades that are part of packages they want to use in building content in the future and are retroactive giving an updated look to the existing content. But, by no means does this even come close to being evidence of a world revamp.
    Otherwise look! They updated the fire cat model from Cataclysm! World revamp confirmed! Oh wait, it was the new patch.
    The old world is not recoverable anymore. A revamp is not enough. The devs make bigger and denser zones now. There is only room for remakes, not revamps. The devs can't work with those old maps anymore for a new expansion. It has to be redone from scratch.
    Agreed. On top of it all a world revamp is useless in modern WoW. 1 or 2 zones is enough to level to max. And most people cba do even that and instead buy a boost or level in Timewalking dungeons. The only time a world revamp makes sense is if every zone is an endgame zone and every dungeon also becomes an m+ dungeon. This isn't in the pipeline. Delves are, first in the TWW underground zones and later probably elsewhere too.

    Modern (much better word than 'retail') is an endgame MMO. It's a skill game of PvP, raiding and M+ (and soon Delves). For the people who just want to dabble mindlessly around without any skill requirements classic exists, and soon classic+.
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    I doubt this point towards an actual world revamp. At least not within the same magnitude as the one we had in Cata.
    My guess is we're done with new continents for a while after TWW. After that we might see specific areas of the world updated as they are needed. Best example for that would be Arathi in BfA. Next on the block is most likely Eversongwoods, maybe even Ghostlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauredfangs View Post
    Can you check if they've updated the human buildings in Elwynn Forest? There were new models datamined last patch but it wasnt implimented yet.
    But what about new Night Elf buildings..?? :P

    Check this video, this is de new city for the Night Elves coming in patch 10.2.5.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Z3ROR View Post
    But what about new Night Elf buildings..?? :P

    Check this video, this is de new city for the Night Elves coming in patch 10.2.5.

    Honest question - are those buildings entirely new? They look the buildings from the updated NE areas in BfA at a glance. Sure some in new shapes, but it seems to be basically the same stuff. Or is it more than that?
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    Cataclysm was actually a revamp based on destruction and altering of zones based on an in universe cataclysm story for an expansion. But the kind of "revamp" most people are talking about here is not necessarily part of any story update to the old zones as opposed to being a graphical reskin of old zones and environments. I doubt blizzard would just go through all the efforts to update old assets in zones without some larger story update in an expansion. And I doubt that the upcoming expansions are going to be a comprehensive update of all quests, story lines, assets and environments across the entire game to reflect the current status quo. They "should" do it if they want the world to stay alive and use the entire world as part of the ongoing story, but they wont.
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    They will just fix up all zones that could be potentially needed at content patch or exp realese. I bet they wount call it as world revamp. They just update zones ocasionally with content update. Its already happens so... we dont need evidence its a actually a fact.
    Last edited by czarek; 2023-11-29 at 01:48 PM.

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