We will probably see a new Class during the Worldsoul Saga

[Triceron]

Titankiller sounds like a hero talent tree tbh.

The fact that so many of the potential Midnight class candidates (Warden, Spellbreaker, Battlemage) are on this list is not a good sign.

The lack of void options could imply that Midnight already has a class planned, and that these are all polling the class after. Makes sense with all the Titan focus and the general foot dipping into thematically B/C-tier concepts for the Worldsoul Saga, stuff like Bards or Necros or witches, and modifying Tinkers to use Titan themes.

There was already a Spanish streamer who got word that Blizzard was planning classes (plural) for the Saga, so this isn't too unexpected.

[deviantcultist]

Hard to say what, if anything, this means for Midnight. If Midnight has a class coming, it's probably already set in stone by now and wouldn't be affected by a survey. In which case, the glaring lack of any Void class- and the fact that the other prominent Midnight ideas are here in more generic forms- might mean that they've already decided on a Void class before this?

This is the only positive thing I got from the survey. There is no way they are gauging demand for Midnight that's already deeper in development and at the same time not having a single Void option in the survey means that it's either already set in stone for Midnight or that a Void class is not even a consideration in general.

Guess for people who want to play an actual Void class, if we are to take the survey as a fact, it once again seems like Midnight is the very last chance. If Midnight gets no Void class, it will be confirmed that Shadowpriest will forever stay the only "option" for those who got successfully gaslit into thinking it's an option when Paladin exists for the Light while Priest still has it.

[KyleEverett]

My personal dreams for Midnight remain a Naga hero class focused around Tridents and a Void Hunter spec for Demon Hunters.

[Eldryth]

I was thinking a bit more about the "Celestial Lancer".

At first glance it sounds like one of the most random Titan-themed ideas there, with no real lore behind it... but we actually might have seen stuff like that in WoW before. If you look past how the vague description can resemble FF's Dragoon and Dragon's Dogma's Mystic Spearhand, it's also a pretty good match for the Val'kyr spearmaidens like Hyrja. A winged Valkyrie hero infused with storm magic (they often have Light too but they'd have to differentiate that from Paladin) would actually be a great fit for a Titan expansion- maybe created by Eyir turning against the Pantheon?

And if Class Halls return, given how many Warriors seemed to think the Halls of Valor was a terrible fit for them, maybe this could get the Valarjar theme and Warriors could get something else?


I'd still prefer Artificer, Bard, or Tinker from the survey, but if this is what "Celestial Lancer" meant, it could be pretty good too.

[Ielenia]

Convergent evolutions also exist in Warcraft, many races that look similar are still defined as being different. Trolls and Haranir for example.

But we also have examples of "same races" existing in different planets, such as wolves existing in Draenor pre-Azeroth invasion.

Also, we already see that the other Night Warrior alien races were not Night El es because they literally do not 'look or quack like a duck'.

So I'll ask you the same question I asked the other poster who, just like you, have asserted that those other night warriors did not look like night elves in life: how do you know that? You made the assertion that they don't, meaning you adopted the burden of proof here.

That said, this whole 'race' thing has become wholly off-topic.

[Triceron]

I was thinking a bit more about the "Celestial Lancer".

At first glance it sounds like one of the most random Titan-themed ideas there, with no real lore behind it... but we actually might have seen stuff like that in WoW before. If you look past how the vague description can resemble FF's Dragoon and Dragon's Dogma's Mystic Spearhand, it's also a pretty good match for the Val'kyr spearmaidens like Hyrja. A winged Valkyrie hero infused with storm magic (they often have Light too but they'd have to differentiate that from Paladin) would actually be a great fit for a Titan expansion- maybe created by Eyir turning against the Pantheon?

And if Class Halls return, given how many Warriors seemed to think the Halls of Valor was a terrible fit for them, maybe this could get the Valarjar theme and Warriors could get something else?


I'd still prefer Artificer, Bard, or Tinker from the survey, but if this is what "Celestial Lancer" meant, it could be pretty good too.

I'm totally down with a celestial lancer if they can root it in the lore and make it sensible as a class that our races would adopt. I do think it is out if left field only because it's such a foreign concept and no current races would be connected to that theme, it would have to be built up from scratch. And I don't want an Evoker or DH situation, limiting the class to a couple races.

I'd far prefer this than say introducing a Tinker with titan tech. I'd far prefer Titan themes be adapted to something new like the lancer or prismatics, while Tinker stays pure to gob and gnome tech

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But we also have examples of "same races" existing in different planets, such as wolves existing in Draenor pre-Azeroth invasion.

Which is treated as a generic term for a non sentient species, like birds or fish. Elves has never been used in this capacity, it has exclusively applied to races descrnding from ancient kaldorei

So I'll ask you the same question I asked the other poster who, just like you, have asserted that those other night warriors did not look like night elves in life: how do you know that? You made the assertion that they don't, meaning you adopted the burden of proof here.

That said, this whole 'race' thing has become wholly off-topic.

We know because they would be explained as being off world Night Elves. There is no need to keep that a secret if a shared origin is intentional, just like no need to hide the Nightborne connection to Night Elves. If Blizzard is seeding an alien race that worships Elune, there is no reason to assume these aliens to be night Elves when the point is introducing the idea of Elune Worship and the Night Warrior ot being exclusive to Night Elves or races of Azeroth

Assuming them to be NE on a diff planet is counter intuitive to the whole reason this was seeded with ambiguity. If they are meant to be NE, why bother having these characters exist off planet when it can just be a NE in a different time period ON AZEROTH

[Nibelheimy]

Assuming them to be NE on a diff planet is counter intuitive to the whole reason this was seeded with ambiguity. If they are meant to be NE, why bother having these characters exist off planet when it can just be a NE in a different time period ON AZEROTH

To play Devils advocate, if the Shadowlands holds souls from alternate universes, there's no reason they can't be Night elves from an alternate universe that ended up on one. That's just how grandly shite Shadowlands is.

[Triceron]

To play Devils advocate, if the Shadowlands holds souls from alternate universes, there's no reason they can't be Night elves from an alternate universe that ended up on one. That's just how grandly shite Shadowlands is.

If that's the case then AU shenanigans are just AU shenanigans, not evidence of NE on diff planets.

[Enrif]

just to point out something, if we take the 5 classes with the most text, and thus the most defined of these we have these:

• Artificer: Melee based Tanks,Damagedealer and Healer, that use a mix of handmade machines and titan-technology. Mechanic-reactive gear is the foundation of their power, while utilising new weapon types like extendable flails or reactive shields. This class is on the frontlines of battles and protects and supports their team with their inventions.
• Bard: Supporter, Healer and Tanks, that utilize the Song of Azeroth to cast mighty spells, support their allies and weaken their enemies. Bards shine in a group, empowering and improving the spells of others and at the same time bringing numerous songs and auras to help their group reach new heights.
• Prismatic: As heirs to titanic Power, Prismatics are carriers of cosmic powers that can not only be used in their purest forms, but their transcending powers can be merged to new powers. They refine and focus the power of life to heal allies, or the powers of order to protect themself, or they merge the combined powers of death and shadow to deal damage to enemies.
• Tinker: Genius inventors, who have uncovered the secrets of the titan technology, and using it to protect their allies, heal wounds and attack enemies. Through their understanding of machines. tinkers can create inventions (custom made skills/spells), control Mech-Suits and deploy mechanical constructs to create an advantage in combat.
• Witch: Damagedealers and Healers that use “old magic” to reach towards darker, natural powers. They magic includes curses, familiars, rituals, spiritual connections, poisons, decay and more. This class builds onto the teachings of witches and dark magicians of WoW, including the witches of Drustvar, the gilnean harvest witches, the decay gnolls and troll hexes and spirit magic.

these are also classes that call out roles, compared to classes that have just generic text without even a mention of roles they can fulfill, like Titankiller or Necromancer.

So, if any of these classes are in development, it is one or more of these 5.

And all 5 can really fit into the TLT story.

Artificer and Tinker through the titan technology angle.

Bard through the radiant song.

Prismatic as a cosmic powers class.

Witch, is a bit of a outlier, but "old magic" could mean anything, it could be the primordial powers of azeroth, it could be something void related even. And it is the only class in the whole list, that calls out cultures of WoW, and it would be the only class of these 5 that we could nails down its armor type as a cloth class.

[Nibelheimy]

Apothecary, Astrologian, Leyweaver & Warden also have implied roles. They may not be as lengthy as Prismatic, but to say its more likely than them is an overstatement.

Pretty much all of them have implied roles. The ones that seem to lean dps only have less description. The only one that unfortunately stands out to me considering we know what one is, is Necromancer. Are they really doing the concept justice with that description.