1. #10361
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    That's possible, although I don't think that the key art I linked is tagged as related to existing Demon Hunter customization in the above manner. Not to mention that those customizations are very similar to existing satyr models, blurring the lines pretty readily.
    Well satyrs are just fel corrupted night elves, so are night elf demon hunters. The differentiation is very small and might be more a degree of corruption. Like mag’har to green skin orc to fel orc
    Last edited by Enrif; 2025-01-12 at 09:00 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  2. #10362
    Having to redo TWW main campaign, the part where all the races are fighting together against the nerubians I noticed 3 things players can't do:
    1. Fighting with tech. Draenei, goblins, and earthen fighting in Mechs. Draenei and Earthen using Vigilants and Golems respectively. Gnomes flying airplanes.
    2. Nightborne Chromomancers fighting in melee using swords and time magic.
    3. Alleria's void hunter thing and void elf voidsingers.

  3. #10363
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    That's possible, although I don't think that the key art I linked is tagged as related to existing Demon Hunter customization in the above manner. Not to mention that those customizations are very similar to existing satyr models, blurring the lines pretty readily.
    Yeah, because an elf high on fel starts to take satyr features. If you look at the felblood elves, it's a similar process but they look less feral and more devilish (there are some skins for the blood elves similar to them)

  4. #10364
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacotaco View Post
    Yeah, because an elf high on fel starts to take satyr features. If you look at the felblood elves, it's a similar process but they look less feral and more devilish (there are some skins for the blood elves similar to them)
    The transformation of Felblood elves is pretty strikingly different from that of satyrs, especially as the more advanced cases are growing wings. The presence of horns, scales, and the flesh turning red or gray is also common across all varieties of Fel mutation from elves to orcs.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

  5. #10365
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I would not like to see a merge of bards and tinkers, though. Both deserve their own class.
    Agreed. It feels like they're getting teased together, particularly on Siren Isle (where the Song was apparently inspiring new technology), but they're far too different to combine into a single class.

    I'm hopeful that this was deliberate setup for both of them (it certainly feels that way to me), and that we'll get both Bard and Tinker throughout the Saga. Which would fit best as Bards in Midnight and Tinkers in TLT given that Tinkers fit far better into a Titan-centric expansion. It'd definitely be ambitious to release classes in two consecutive expansions, but given how they've been treating the Saga as a huge deal, and have been planning further ahead and expanding their team... I wouldn't rule it out entirely.

  6. #10366
    Maybe we'll get machine singers as part of the tinker class

  7. #10367
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    The transformation of Felblood elves is pretty strikingly different from that of satyrs, especially as the more advanced cases are growing wings. The presence of horns, scales, and the flesh turning red or gray is also common across all varieties of Fel mutation from elves to orcs.
    They look less satyr and more sayaad, yeah.

  8. #10368
    Whats the opinion on the new Solar&Lunar set. It seems to follow a similar theming to the warden set, with one set being called the moon and one the sun set.

    And the moon version of the set looks extremely fitting on night elves

    https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressi...zqfX808zqf187q

    i tried if the sun set looks as fitting on blood elves but i don't think the color works here

    https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressi...zqwz808zqwm87q

    teasing a new class? Could fit some astromancer/celestial vibes. That it fits with the warden sets theme could also hint at a class for midnight that is night elf aligned in some way. Or Elune/An'she and Mu'sha aligned?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  9. #10369
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    Whats the opinion on the new Solar&Lunar set. It seems to follow a similar theming to the warden set, with one set being called the moon and one the sun set.

    And the moon version of the set looks extremely fitting on night elves

    https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressi...zqfX808zqf187q

    i tried if the sun set looks as fitting on blood elves but i don't think the color works here

    https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressi...zqwz808zqwm87q

    teasing a new class? Could fit some astromancer/celestial vibes. That it fits with the warden sets theme could also hint at a class for midnight that is night elf aligned in some way. Or Elune/An'she and Mu'sha aligned?
    As I said earlier, I believe Astromancer concept has quite a potential for Midnight. It is a class of elven origin and it could explore cosmic/celestial themes in a new way.

    Interesting thing about this the dual nature of Sun and Moon, which could imply existence of Light/Fire spec for Astromancers dedicated to the Sun, which would make sense in a narrative focused on blood elves and Quel'thalas.

    Also the set does not really give me any racial coding, tbh. Night elves are about moons and Nightborne about stars, but their racial aestetics looks different and when I saw the set, I did not immediately thought "night elf" only because of lunar features. It looks quite unique and new.

  10. #10370
    The set isn't the current night elf look of nature perhaps or nightborn current look of suffused arcane, but it feels like what a night elf would have used during the time of Queen Azshara. It wouldn't look out of place next to let's say the ravencrest Black Rook set
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  11. #10371
    I just don't see it. We got solar/lunar themes heavily with balance druid. Then lunar themes with Sentinel hunters and solar themes with herald of the sun paladins.

    I also really do not see a need for more Light and/or Fire using specs. Basically every caster except shadow priest uses some kind of fire at this point.

    Additionally, the Astromancer's we've seen in game from both blood elves and nightborne are shadow and arcane magic, not lunar or solar magic like balance druids.

  12. #10372
    If we look at the survey we have celestial lancer and astrologian that kind of fit lunar and solar themes. Besides, balance druid is just one way to see the celestial bodies be used, and we had enough people here who can see a astrologian/astromancer class. And Astrologian/Astromancer would involve the sun in some way too. Be it fire, or light doesn't really matter for that, as we with balance druid they don't to either, but nature and arcane. So the Sun motive could be aligned to nature or arcane instead of fire or light.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  13. #10373
    If you check out the screenshots, the sets look even cooler:





    The moon set in particular has a very Void Knight kind of look to it. It has blades on the shoulders and helm that look almost like tentacles. The mask also gives off similar vibes. Could this be teasing a Void Knight class that is opposite of paladins? Then the sun set would be the one for pallies.

  14. #10374
    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    If you check out the screenshots, the sets look even cooler:

    https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...al/1206886.jpg

    https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...al/1206887.jpg

    The moon set in particular has a very Void Knight kind of look to it. It has blades on the shoulders and helm that look almost like tentacles. The mask also gives off similar vibes. Could this be teasing a Void Knight class that is opposite of paladins? Then the sun set would be the one for pallies.
    the shoulders have a moon variation as seen in the wardrobe links above
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  15. #10375
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    Whats the opinion on the new Solar&Lunar set. It seems to follow a similar theming to the warden set, with one set being called the moon and one the sun set.

    And the moon version of the set looks extremely fitting on night elves

    https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressi...zqfX808zqf187q

    i tried if the sun set looks as fitting on blood elves but i don't think the color works here

    https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressi...zqwz808zqwm87q

    teasing a new class? Could fit some astromancer/celestial vibes. That it fits with the warden sets theme could also hint at a class for midnight that is night elf aligned in some way. Or Elune/An'she and Mu'sha aligned?
    The sun outfit colors almost make me think of high elves

  16. #10376
    Quote Originally Posted by alex wolf View Post
    The sun outfit colors almost make me think of high elves
    High Elves? hmm, have not considered that.

    The more i look at it, i think about Queen Azhara age elves. Something about the plates reminds me about naga too.

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    Specificly this set
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If we somehow do get a void Hunter class, I’ll be the first one to post in this thread to admit my error.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  17. #10377
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    If we look at the survey we have celestial lancer and astrologian that kind of fit lunar and solar themes. Besides, balance druid is just one way to see the celestial bodies be used, and we had enough people here who can see a astrologian/astromancer class. And Astrologian/Astromancer would involve the sun in some way too. Be it fire, or light doesn't really matter for that, as we with balance druid they don't to either, but nature and arcane. So the Sun motive could be aligned to nature or arcane instead of fire or light.
    When has a transmog set every been a portent of a new class? It's most likely the 24 month trading post reward now that most people have the sentinel set.

  18. #10378
    G.R.A.V. Glove in Plunderstorm hmmmmmmm :3

  19. #10379
    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    G.R.A.V. Glove in Plunderstorm hmmmmmmm :3
    That's an odd one. The name and icon are clearly for a tech ability, but the description is clearly for a Void ability. So is there some weird mismatch in the datamining, or are we using a gadget that manipulates the Void?

  20. #10380
    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    G.R.A.V. Glove in Plunderstorm hmmmmmmm :3
    Looks like a crossover between tech and void which is something I also brought up as a possibility. Like I said, I'm not against a tech class but against the comical and tasteless Tinker archetypes that mostly associate with Goblins and Gnomes.

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