We will probably see a new Class during the Worldsoul Saga

[PotHockets]

Or, they're trying to give "Trolls" to the Alliance in order to introduce the Witch Doctor\Shadow Hunter.

I would sell my left nut for a Witch Doctor class that plays similar to the D3 WD aesthetically.

[Al Gorefiend]

I would sell my left nut for a Witch Doctor class that plays similar to the D3 WD aesthetically.

I'll sell my right so we can mail Blizzard a set

[username993720]

they are pretty much just elves. their troll side if very small. And the alliance has already witch themed races in Worgen and Kul Tirans.

What's elven about them?

I would sell my left nut for a Witch Doctor class that plays similar to the D3 WD aesthetically.

Then, you should check these:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...arcraft-Occult
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...pecializations

I'll sell my right so we can mail Blizzard a set

[Enrif]

What's elven about them?

Haranir:


Night Elf:


The only thing troll about them is the option to have small tusks.

[Vaedan]

I would sell my left nut for a Witch Doctor class that plays similar to the D3 WD aesthetically.

I mean, it would be interesting addition. Problem is with it's heavy troll coding, which makes it kinda Horde specific thing, but I would love it.

On a matter of Witch Doctors/Shadow Hunters, I thought that the solution could be that Alliance would get basicaly same class, but with different themes and animations. For example:

Horde:
Shadow Hunter class

Alliance:
Priestess of the Moon class

To avoid early shaman vs paladin balance issues, these two classes would be technically same, but in different coat.

It would take a huge effort for animations, so I doubt they would ever do something like that.

[Enrif]

Or just make it a "witch" class. Witches are among any faction. Drust and Harvest Witches on the alliance side, and witch doctors one the horde side. No need to split in mirror classes

[Ielenia]

Blizzard has already historically said they won’t add new specs to existing classes I’m fairly certain.

Just a lil' correction, if it is the same interview I'm thinking of, Blizzard said they do not wish to fundamentally alter an existing spec to the point of changing its role, like, for example, changing a current dps spec into a support spec as per the interviewer's question, or (and this is me guessing) like they made the hunter's survival spec go from ranged to melee.

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demon hunters literally are spell casters, Illidan was a mage prodigy, demon hunters cast spells like eye beam, sigils, immo aura, Metamorphosis

Having innate abilities is not the same as 'being a spellcaster', though.

and classes can use more than one power source or do priest not exist any more??

The problem is that void and fel are cannot be mixed without explosive results, and demon hunters are chock-full of fel in their bodies, I imagine them using void magic might have some pretty big adverse effects.

[PotHockets]

Or just make it a "witch" class. Witches are among any faction. Drust and Harvest Witches on the alliance side, and witch doctors one the horde side. No need to split in mirror classes

Yeah a Witch or Occultist would make more sense. Think something that's a fusion of D3 WD and Grim Dawn magic where it stems from the old gods but has a more witchy vibe.

If it was like that you could easily apply it to multiple Alli and Horde races.

[Al Gorefiend]

I mean, it would be interesting addition. Problem is with it's heavy troll coding, which makes it kinda Horde specific thing, but I would love it.

On a matter of Witch Doctors/Shadow Hunters, I thought that the solution could be that Alliance would get basicaly same class, but with different themes and animations. For example:

Horde:
Shadow Hunter class

Alliance:
Priestess of the Moon class

To avoid early shaman vs paladin balance issues, these two classes would be technically same, but in different coat.

It would take a huge effort for animations, so I doubt they would ever do something like that.

They'd have to find the common similarities between the troll witch doctors and Alliance harvest witches, and it can be done same as shaman

[username993720]

Haranir:


Night Elf:


The only thing troll about them is the option to have small tusks.

That's, literally, because they use the Night elven model. They're Trolls through and through: from Orwenya's voice, to the tribal ritualistic dance she performs, the body paint, the clothes she wears, and the tusks she has.

I mean, it would be interesting addition. Problem is with it's heavy troll coding, which makes it kinda Horde specific thing, but I would love it.

On a matter of Witch Doctors/Shadow Hunters, I thought that the solution could be that Alliance would get basicaly same class, but with different themes and animations. For example:

Horde:
Shadow Hunter class

Alliance:
Priestess of the Moon class

To avoid early shaman vs paladin balance issues, these two classes would be technically same, but in different coat.

It would take a huge effort for animations, so I doubt they would ever do something like that.

No. The solution is easy.
Drustvar's witchcraft as the Alliance counterpart.

Yeah a Witch or Occultist would make more sense. Think something that's a fusion of D3 WD and Grim Dawn magic where it stems from the old gods but has a more witchy vibe.

If it was like that you could easily apply it to multiple Alli and Horde races.

It doesn't need to be Old God, just like it wouldn't be demonic like the Warlock (male version of a witch). It would deal with Spirit and Decay and would invoke Wild Gods and Loas.

They'd have to find the common similarities between the troll witch doctors and Alliance harvest witches, and it can be done same as shaman

There is:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...arcraft-Occult
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...Future-Classes

[FossilFree]

That's, literally, because they use the Night elven model. They're Trolls through and through: from Orwenya's voice, to the tribal ritualistic dance she performs, the body paint, the clothes she wears, and the tusks she has.

I don't think they are elves or trolls. They are bat people: beastmen that evolved from bats. You can see it in their design, they have bat ears, bat eyes, bat fangs, and bat claws. They can even transform into full bats.

[Eldryth]

Yeah a Witch or Occultist would make more sense. Think something that's a fusion of D3 WD and Grim Dawn magic where it stems from the old gods but has a more witchy vibe.

If it was like that you could easily apply it to multiple Alli and Horde races.

The survey named Drustvar witches, Gilnean Harvest witches, Brackenhide Gnolls (for their Decay magic), Troll hexes, and general spirit magic as influences. A lot of those actually fit together pretty well- if you mix Drustvar stuff, some nature magic from the Harvest Witches, and Decay, then you can get a strong Drust-themed spec based around the full cycle of life and death.

I think that kind of spec is what I'd really be interested in from a Witch.

I don't think they are elves or trolls. They are bat people: beastmen that evolved from bats. You can see it in their design, they have bat ears, bat eyes, bat fangs, and bat claws. They can even transform into full bats.

Yeah, the popular theory is that they're the missing link between Trolls and Elves, but that doesn't really make sense to me- it'd mean they got all these animal traits, then lost them when they became Elves.

I do think that divergent evolution is a good possibility though- Dark Trolls that found Elun'ahir and were influenced by that instead of the Well of Eternity, gaining bestial traits (with the similarities to Night Elves possibly coming from Elune, because she gave Eonar Elun'ahir and the Nelfs are her chosen people). I think that could be enough to consider them kin to Elves and Trolls.

[username993720]

I don't think they are elves or trolls. They are bat people: beastmen that evolved from bats. You can see it in their design, they have bat ears, bat eyes, bat fangs, and bat claws. They can even transform into full bats.

Bats don't have tusks nor quills.

[Triceron]

Or just make it a "witch" class. Witches are among any faction. Drust and Harvest Witches on the alliance side, and witch doctors one the horde side. No need to split in mirror classes

Witchdoctor could easily be a Hero Talent. They're already open to coding race-centric identities and opening it up to all races of the class.

[Eldryth]

Witchdoctor could easily be a Hero Talent. They're already open to coding race-centric identities and opening it up to all races of the class.

I'd have guessed that they'd have a Drust-themed spec and a Voodoo-themed one, but that makes sense too. Hunters, Mages, Warriors, and arguably Paladins (if you count Herald of the Sun as a Sunwalker thing) all have race-themed Hero Specs already, so there's already precedence, and that's not even counting Druids and Monks doubling down on their existing focus on a single race. I'd even suggested taking this approach with Tinkers already (starting with a Titan or more general theme and having Hero Specs based around its more iconic racial variants), so I really should have thought of it here.

[Wyrt]

If the Harvest Witches and Drust stuff aren't druids then why do Gilneans and Kul Tirans have druids?

[Vaedan]

If the Harvest Witches and Drust stuff aren't druids then why do Gilneans and Kul Tirans have druids?

I mean, they can be both.

Kul Tiran druids comes from Thornspeakers, who kept their original ancient teachings and traditions, while most of the Drust society moved away from them and embraced new powers associated with Death.

Gilneans were separated from them and it seems Harvest Witches were following very similar traditions to what Thornspeakers were preserving.

Drustvar Witches, however, fully embraced hexes, curses and Death magic to harm their enemies. It is quite opposition to what druids are doing and when you talk about Ulfric in his den, he even confirms that they left old Drust because of their divergence from their ways (and also because of their constant desire for hostilities against humans).

Simply put, they might share cultural background, but both are two distinct things which evolved separetely.

[username993720]

Witchdoctor could easily be a Hero Talent. They're already open to coding race-centric identities and opening it up to all races of the class.

Oh, great.
Let's shit on more archetypes.

[Ersula]

Simply put, they might share cultural background, but both are two distinct things which evolved separetely.

In terms of gameplay, my Thornspeaker is also a Chosen of Elune, so them being a racial identity isn't really a big deal. But personally I think Witch is too much like Warlock.

[Triceron]

Oh, great.
Let's shit on more archetypes.

? Have you not read about the leak survey?

If they ever do a witchdoc class, it would be as a part of the witch class concept. Otherwise a witchdoc would be on there instead, but you don't see one do you? And you know exactly why, you just haven't accepted reality yet. It'll take time, I know. You're still in denial over Dark Rangers after all.