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    For the first time in the history of WoW, BM does a little more damage and they immediately nerf it again. Fucking loser.

  2. #22
    Where in the seven fucks are the nerfs to Vengeance DH???

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Klive View Post
    Where in the seven fucks are the nerfs to Vengeance DH???
    Likely not needed just like the havok nerfs will likely need to be partially reverted..

    Wars need 4pc to properly tank but seem fine with it.
    Dks will have a leggo.
    Druids make excellent tanks when geared even if not meta.
    Pally... gonna be frank I've not grouped with any to have an opinion one way or the other.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Harrold View Post
    Likely not needed just like the havok nerfs will likely need to be partially reverted..

    Wars need 4pc to properly tank but seem fine with it.
    Dks will have a leggo.
    Druids make excellent tanks when geared even if not meta.
    Pally... gonna be frank I've not grouped with any to have an opinion one way or the other.
    Yes that's why like 75% of the top 40 is vengeance lol

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by AntenoraDK View Post
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35



    4th from bottom is "upper mid tier" now?


    That is no where near upper mid tier.
    Good thing they buffed their AOE, when they where already a lock MDI pick if you pull around their CDs. This is a 1.4% ST buff, it's not really helping them in the raid lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klive View Post
    Where in the seven fucks are the nerfs to Vengeance DH???
    Tank balance is pretty good right now. They also can't really nerf VDH support at this point because that would require creating a replacement talent for illuminated sigils, that's not going to happen in a hotfix. Tank survival/damage is pretty balanced across all specs so why do you think that would get nerfed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Yes that's why like 75% of the top 40 is vengeance lol
    Because of support, not because they are ahead of other tanks in damage and survival. Read the above. It's not something they can actually tune in a hotfix, and tbh even if they could it just makes Paladin take their place as they have very similar support. If blizzard wants to fix this for both VDH and Prot Paladin then stop making M+ pulls that have 4+ priority kicks in them, the dungeons are creating this problem not the specs.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2023-12-02 at 11:38 PM.

  6. #26
    Blizzard sure loves to buff classes then nerf them hard.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Good thing they buffed their AOE, when they where already a lock MDI pick if you pull around their CDs. This is a 1.4% ST buff, it's not really helping them in the raid lol.

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    Tank balance is pretty good right now. They also can't really nerf VDH support at this point because that would require creating a replacement talent for illuminated sigils, that's not going to happen in a hotfix. Tank survival/damage is pretty balanced across all specs so why do you think that would get nerfed?

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    Because of support, not because they are ahead of other tanks in damage and survival. Read the above. It's not something they can actually tune in a hotfix, and tbh even if they could it just makes Paladin take their place as they have very similar support. If blizzard wants to fix this for both VDH and Prot Paladin then stop making M+ pulls that have 4+ priority kicks in them, the dungeons are creating this problem not the specs.
    So instead let's nerf the hell out of a tank that isn't dominating rofl

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    So instead let's nerf the hell out of a tank that isn't dominating rofl
    No tank got nerfed?

    Do you even know what you're talking about? Blood got LAST SEASON's 2 piece nerfed, but none of the top bloods where even using that. What an embarrassing post. Another classic example of someone with no clue acting like they should have an opinion on something.

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    Good thing they are buffing fury, because looking at the damage in solo shuffle we hit like wet noodles.

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    One thing that kinda got me thinking about returning was that mistweavers finally were good enough to play with competitively in m+ etc.

    Though since they snagged a (singular) healer spot in the raid world first kill I guess they needed to be nerfed by their kneecaps. Can't have that. Should always be a meme.

    I'll vote with my wallet and keep staying away from this mess.

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    Wow Blood Dk never gets any love. Didn’t need a nerf

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