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  1. #21
    "I don't read stuff in the game, explain it to me."
    How is this a thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    The Dragon Isles were supposed to be sealed away for tens of thousands of years, and yet Neltharion somehow returned there to deposit hoards of treasure from the rest of the world. Off of the top of my head, the Forbidden Reach and the Obsidian Citadel have treasure troves which include Naga artifacts (the Naga were created 10,000 years ago at the end of the War of the Ancients, and the Dragon Isles were sealed 10,000 years ago), so Neltharion went back to the Dragon Isles sometime after the Dragon Isles became inaccessible to everyone else. IIRC in the Forbidden Reach hoard, you can find stuff as recent as 20 or 30 years ago.
    He did not in fact return there... anything else there literally was brought there by some other means, likely washed up on shore, especially so with ya know... naga stuff ,which is famous for washing up literally over ALL the shorelines of azeroth, it is hard to go somewhere and not find naga artifacts.
    Show me anywhere it said he returned to the islands, instead of your made up head cannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    For the position of Earth-Warder, the guardian of Azeroth, Wrathion was the only one who has actually been doing anything in the name of defending Azeroth, be it fighting the Sha or Lei Shen or the Legion or the Old Gods. Releasing Garrosh was a massive mishap but he was successful on the other three fronts. Sabellian might be leading Black Dragons, but he was sitting on the sidelines in Outland doing nothing, which doesn't make him qualified to become the Earth-Warder, ie Azeroth's next guardian. And then you have the newly introduced Ebonhorn, who was just sitting on Highmountain doing nothing when the Horde invaded during the first and second wars, did nothing when the Legion came back during the 3rd war, did nothing when the Scourge were invading, did nothing when Deathwing returned and sundered the world, and so on. So again, you wind up with Wrathion being the one and only man who has actually done anything that the position of Earth-Warder entails.

    For the position of leader of the Black Dragonflight, Sabellian was already leading half a dozen of them in Outland. Next you have Wrathion, who was taking his responsibility as the successor to Neltharion very seriously and managed to build up his own army of mortals. And then you have Ebonhorn, who was just chilling on Highmountain doing nothing, with no followers of his own. A leader also needs to be assertive, which Ebonhorn is most certainly not.
    You mean when he didnt fight any sha? Or Lei shen? or the legion?
    Please show me where he was in legion, I would fucking LOVE to see you show me where he fought the legion in legion, funnily enough he helped the legion, he gave cordana felsong access to a corrupted artifact that made her join the legion, and help them so uhh... lol.
    "Garrosh was a mishap uh oh stinky" LOLOLOLOL

    Sabellian was NOT on the sidelines in outland doing nothing, have you never fucking read the books, or done waking shores, or blades edge mountain?
    Sabellian was neltharion's general, leading his armies, and took part in many battles, eventually escorting a large black dragonflight brood into outland to protect them, and had to fight with his dragon brothers and sisters to keep them safe from the gronn, the gronn who even almost fucking killed deathwing, but yeah no just "chilling on outland doing nothing" I guess you coul describe years of fighting for your life to protect yourself and your family from armies of ogre and gronn "Doing nothing"

    Ebonhorn has done the one thing the others could not, safeguard and protect his own species from corruption, he is the sole reason we now have uncorrupted black dragon eggs, and uncorrupted black dragons, because he protected and safeguarded the true future of his species, of his people. He was not doing nothing in highmountain, again do you even play the game, or did you not do the highmountain lore? The place with an old god general that you and ebonhorn defeat?

    Lol I love how you cry about ebornhorn not stopping the third war, scourge, deathwing, or legion.
    When literally neither wrathion or sabellian did anything about those either.

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    Ah, yes. Clearly, slaughtering every black dragon he could find makes Wrathion the best candidate to lead them.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by erifwodahs View Post
    Doesn't follow main story. Doesn't ready text. Only follows story via cinematics, but at the same time doesn't do that either. I think you get these reactions because clearly you won't be able to appreciate any details given to you and probably will end up even less educated on the matter because you will lack ton of context.
    ..but he does follow forums and wants to read about the story from randos at mmo-champion!

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post

    Sabellian, a dragon with little to no leadership skills who viewed everyone around him as a tool to be used; and Wrathion, the impulsive dragon that, while he does care for those around him, doesn't really think his actions through and always have caused more harm than good. (WoD was his fiasco, remember?) And then we have Ebyssian, a dragon who has spent generations uncorrupted, and helping guide and counsel leader and leader of the highmountain, all to glory. And he always thinks ahead, and doesn't view people around him as tools to be used.

    I'd say Ebyssian is by far the most qualified.

    Yes! This! I was so shocked that this happened, yet was grinning from ear to ear, because it was right, and just. Never saw this coming from the story that was laid out clearly....IN AN IN GAME CUTSCENE (OP)!!!!

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    I honestly haven't played much this expansion. Missed bunch of patches. Didn't even do the raids. But I sure as hell played the first month and farmed those Sabellion and Wrathion reps every week and killed rares daily.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Ah, yes. Clearly, slaughtering every black dragon he could find makes Wrathion the best candidate to lead them.
    It does if they were corrupt. He was scorching the Earth, figuratively, after Neltharion had turned the Black Flight into a skid mark in the underwear of the Aspects' legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Sabellian, a dragon with little to no leadership skills who viewed everyone around him as a tool to be used; and Wrathion, the impulsive dragon that, while he does care for those around him, doesn't really think his actions through and always have caused more harm than good. (WoD was his fiasco, remember?) And then we have Ebyssian, a dragon who has spent generations uncorrupted, and helping guide and counsel leader and leader of the highmountain, all to glory. And he always thinks ahead, and doesn't view people around him as tools to be used.
    The usual argument, such as it is, adds up to "Ebyssian is a wimp/coward for having had a narrow protectorate for most of his life," paired with "but Sa-bellyachin' is a hard dragon who made hard choices!" or "but Brat-thion is proactive!"

    I'd say Ebyssian is by far the most qualified.
    He's certainly less full of himself than the brat and better at thinking long-term than the grump, anyway.

  9. #29
    This is such a stupid, obvious bait thread. How are so many people falling for it

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    Don’t worry you’ve still got 11 months to figure it out. The others rushed through the expac
    Started in closed beta, probably before your class was even in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    It does if they were corrupt. He was scorching the Earth, figuratively, after Neltharion had turned the Black Flight into a skid mark in the underwear of the Aspects' legacy.
    Point being, he chose to slaughter them without answering the “if” first.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Eurhetemec View Post
    Because even if you don't read text, they're in a whole ton of cutscenes, like not a few, bunches. It's a bizarre thing to ask if you actually play the game. You must have stopped playing before 10.1 and still not be playing to miss that - unless you like started again yesterday or something. The words "Zaralek Caverns" mean anything to you? Aberrus?
    It's even more bizarre that you spent two posts telling him it's bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacia Ultan View Post
    The usual argument, such as it is, adds up to "Ebyssian is a wimp/coward for having had a narrow protectorate for most of his life," paired with "but Sa-bellyachin' is a hard dragon who made hard choices!" or "but Brat-thion is proactive!"

    He's certainly less full of himself than the brat and better at thinking long-term than the grump, anyway.
    Neltharion fell to the shadows because of his pride, because of his ego, because of his narcasisim and pride.
    He refused to let his image falter, and so he never seeked out help. The others may have been able to help him, but he refused to tell them of the shadows in his mind, and then indulged them, and fell to them.

    Sabellian and Wrathion still suffer from that, they are working towards it, pushing to be better people, to cleanse away or atleast better control their faults, their ego, their pride, their need for THEM to be the one who does something, even when it would be better someone else does it.

    Ebyssian has never had pride, he has spent his life not showing off, who he is, he was a black dragon, hidden away for the good of his kind.
    While sabellian and wrathion both did what THEY thoguht was good for their flight, and made sure THEY did it.
    We see this so well with the obsidian throne, they care more abotu who gets to sit on the throne, then actually saving their flight.
    Ebyssian did not, he was glad to lead, but he did not want to lead.
    And those are the best leaders, the ones who did not seek out leadership, they did not want the control, they did not want the power, but they have been offered it, and can now do their best for their people, with no thirst for power.

    So many people who enter into jobs of power, are people who seek power, and people who seek power are consurning, because while good people seek power, bad people especially do. (Not gunna specify anything for obvious political reasons)

    Ebyssian is a leader, he holds so many of the traits required to be a leader, and so he deserves and has well taken the job.
    Sabellian and wrathion both have their flaws, but these flaws are big, in that they seek power for all the wrong reasons, they seek power for the same reason their father did, and look where that got him?

    The ebyssian becoming aspect story is so well put togerther, the issue is the surface level writing has its flaws.
    The overall story is good, how parts are told is wishy washy, cough the sylvanas sould thing could have been told so much better.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by ChairmanKaga View Post
    "I don't read stuff in the game, explain it to me."
    How is this a thread?
    OP is Gimlix. What did you expect, a constructive thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Didn't follow much of the lore so i might completely missed out on what happened to them, but what did actually happen to them?
    We saw them during 10.0 and you would assume they would take a roll into this expansion, especially Wrathion but we never really seen anything more from them?

    Didn't they had any roll or plans for the Dragon Isle?
    Huh, apparently it is really hard to either google, or read the lore recaps on either Wowhead or warcraft wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Huh, apparently it is really hard to either google, or read the lore recaps on either Wowhead or warcraft wiki.
    It might be. You know how a bunch of players only play WoW and want it to be everything they need from their gaming experience? Maybe some ppl only want to use this form and it's their first and easiest go to.
    Ppl who don't care about his thread can just skip it, would make for a much cleaner thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loveliest View Post
    It might be. You know how a bunch of players only play WoW and want it to be everything they need from their gaming experience? Maybe some ppl only want to use this form and it's their first and easiest go to.
    Ppl who don't care about his thread can just skip it, would make for a much cleaner thread.
    You know what would make for a cleaner thread? If the OP actually wasn't lying - or utterly helpless.

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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Nederbelg View Post
    OP is Gimlix. What did you expect, a constructive thread?
    I assume from context they are a well known dipshit here. I can't say I remember posters that well.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Not really, invested more in Dragonflight then i did on legion/bfa/SL combined, but i just don't follow main stories, i prefer sticking my time in other parts of the game.
    That's why i asked the question, usual lore related stuff i fully ignore, unless it's really shown to you through a cinematic.
    You literally had to ignore one complete patch to not know what was going on. And never set foot into Zaralek Caverns...
    You cannot avoid this. You HAVE to do the quests (with cutscenes) at least once.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Why would this be a joke? Cba reading any NPC text nor follow anything beyond cinematics... Asking a simple question.

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    Ashame, Wrathion has much potential since MoP
    Can't read words in game.

    Will read words on a forum.

    Ok.

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