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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    DeJoy's private investments make it pretty clear his goal is to sabotage the post office to line his pocket, it suited Trump to put him in charge because he was a big donor.
    I continue to have massive beef with Biden for not removing DeJoy as soon as he was elected. His chsnges have already slowed mail in my area by about 2 days.
    "Winning? Is that what you think it’s about? I’m not trying to win. I’m not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because I want to blame someone. It’s not because it’s fun. God knows it’s not because it’s easy. It’s not even because it works because it hardly ever does.. I DO WHAT I DO BECAUSE IT’S RIGHT! Because it’s decent! And above all, it’s kind! It’s just that.. Just kind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Well the grapes weren’t tax deductible, anyway!
    Aesop what you did there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    I continue to have massive beef with Biden for not removing DeJoy as soon as he was elected. His chsnges have already slowed mail in my area by about 2 days.
    If I'm not mistaken, Biden can't directly remove DeJoy. It has to be the US Post Office governing board.

    Why they haven't done so, I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    But those facts don't matter. He just needs to convince enough low-information, high volatility blue collar political fence sitter workers in enough states to vote for him because they're afraid their industry is going out and that their livelihoods are directly threatened by Harris.
    I'm pretty sure the auto workers union leadership has successfully painted Trump as a charlatan and a scab who is only trying to exploit them, so I doubt Trump has much sway there. The only people stupid and uninformed to believe this nonsense were already stupid and uninformed enough to vote Trump anyway, so I don't know why he keeps spewing it.
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    I'm pretty sure the auto workers union leadership has successfully painted Trump as a charlatan and a scab who is only trying to exploit them, so I doubt Trump has much sway there. The only people stupid and uninformed to believe this nonsense were already stupid and uninformed enough to vote Trump anyway, so I don't know why he keeps spewing it.
    Maybe the autoworkers know it.


    But does some other industry fearing “outsourcing” know that the auto industry thinks that about him, or do they just hear that trump is saying comforting lies about how he’s going to protect jobs?
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omerome View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Biden can't directly remove DeJoy. It has to be the US Post Office governing board.

    Why they haven't done so, I have no idea.
    I am not entirely sure of the process, and frankly I dont care. DeJoy is a partisan hack who clearly was installed to run the Post Office into the ground and generate hate for it among the general populace.

    It may be "low priority", but I was really hoping a 2nd term Biden would take some real action against Republican bullshit appointments.
    "Winning? Is that what you think it’s about? I’m not trying to win. I’m not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because I want to blame someone. It’s not because it’s fun. God knows it’s not because it’s easy. It’s not even because it works because it hardly ever does.. I DO WHAT I DO BECAUSE IT’S RIGHT! Because it’s decent! And above all, it’s kind! It’s just that.. Just kind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    I am not entirely sure of the process, and frankly I dont care. DeJoy is a partisan hack who clearly was installed to run the Post Office into the ground and generate hate for it among the general populace.

    It may be "low priority", but I was really hoping a 2nd term Biden would take some real action against Republican bullshit appointments.
    Iirc the board members are appointed by both parties and currently Republicans have the majority and are blocking any efforts to remove DeJoy, Democrats are having to wait out the terms of the sitting board members to replace them.

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    From Barron's.

    DJT Stock Falls. Economists Say Trump Is Likely to Lose the Election.

    "Whoa, that's an odd double-header."

    It's a cause-and-effect thing. Truth Social is worthless without Trump involved. If he loses the election, he owns a platform where all he does is complain. Nobody will advertise on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanrefni View Post
    Iirc the board members are appointed by both parties and currently Republicans have the majority and are blocking any efforts to remove DeJoy, Democrats are having to wait out the terms of the sitting board members to replace them.
    This may be a merely external perspective, but it seems awfully suspicious that any time a Republican gets into office, there are a slew of resignations and appointments to these sorts of things that always put Republicans in power: and when Democrats get elected, its always "Oh theres nothing we can do!!".
    "Winning? Is that what you think it’s about? I’m not trying to win. I’m not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because I want to blame someone. It’s not because it’s fun. God knows it’s not because it’s easy. It’s not even because it works because it hardly ever does.. I DO WHAT I DO BECAUSE IT’S RIGHT! Because it’s decent! And above all, it’s kind! It’s just that.. Just kind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Ive noticed that opinion pieces across the board seem to be trending towards whiny right-wing internet shitposts than actual differences in opinion.
    What else do they have? I don't think I've seen a remotely interesting or insightful piece from David Brooks over at the NYT since Donald was in office. There's just no actual material for anyone that once claimed to be a principled conservative to write about that's not the continue self-immolation of their own party, which they largely don't want to talk about.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Brittany Mahomes is reportedly questioning her support of Donald Trump, following the former president’s attack on one of her close friends – Taylor Swift.

    Trump’s recent attacks on Swift – who last week officially backed Kamala Harris for president – have reportedly shaken Mahomes “to her core.”

    Since Swift’s endorsement of the Harris-Walz campaign, Trump has completely flipped in his opinion of the pop megastar, having previously described her as “beautiful.” “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT” he wrote on his social media platform Truth Social.

    A source close to Mahomes – the wife of Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes – said that the attacks on Swift by Trump had “deeply bothered” her.

    “Taylor is like a sister to her and she has done absolutely nothing wrong,” a source told DailyMail.com. “This shook her to her core.”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2614721.html

    Really, if you support Donald you can't support anyone else because he's liable to attack them at some point and then you need to choose between Donald and that person.

    Continues to reinforce how Donald's relationships are all purely transactional.

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    JAY DEE HAMEL FOUND PROOF OF HAITIANS EATING PETS!

    “The Vance campaign provided the Wall Street Journal with a police report to prove their claims about cat-eating Haitians in Springfield.
    !!!!

    "But Edge, that doesn't look like a full quote!"

    Because it's not.

    The WSJ spoke to the woman who filed it, who said she later found her cat alive and well in her basement. She also apologized to her Haitian neighbors.” Justin Baragona posted to X with a link to a story in The Wall Street Journal.
    So a local, panicky idiot lost her cat for a few hours, phoned the police to say Haitian migrants ate it because that's a reasonable conclusion, and then found her cat.

    Jay Dee Hamel and Donald's campaign knew this was a lie when they provided the report to media. They were just hoping media would accept the lie and not bother with things like "verifying" because they've forgotten the words of the Gipper, "Trust but verify".

    Anyways, looks like Republicans will bring yet another week of domestic terror to Springfield, Ohio, courtesy in no small part to the Junior Senator from the Great State of Ohio!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    This may be a merely external perspective, but it seems awfully suspicious that any time a Republican gets into office, there are a slew of resignations and appointments to these sorts of things that always put Republicans in power: and when Democrats get elected, its always "Oh theres nothing we can do!!".
    A lot of it flows through the Senate so when you have a Republicans in control of the Senate and WH, they rush to fill every appointment as fast as possible with people who can be in those seats for a very long time.
    The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped form our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.

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    The ongoing attacks against Harris for not having biological children is weird. It continues to seem like Republicans in general only seem to think women have any value, or can stay humble, with biological children of their own.

    Clearly their nieces and nephews and friends children don't actually like them that much, because those little suckers are absolutely brutal. They will break your back and make you humble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    JAY DEE HAMEL FOUND PROOF OF HAITIANS EATING PETS!



    !!!!

    "But Edge, that doesn't look like a full quote!"

    Because it's not.



    So a local, panicky idiot lost her cat for a few hours, phoned the police to say Haitian migrants ate it because that's a reasonable conclusion, and then found her cat.

    Jay Dee Hamel and Donald's campaign knew this was a lie when they provided the report to media. They were just hoping media would accept the lie and not bother with things like "verifying" because they've forgotten the words of the Gipper, "Trust but verify".

    Anyways, looks like Republicans will bring yet another week of domestic terror to Springfield, Ohio, courtesy in no small part to the Junior Senator from the Great State of Ohio!
    More on "Jay Dee Hamel knows hes lying" from Rolling Stone - https://archive.is/u54SC

    According to a Wednesday report from The Wall Street Journal, on Sept. 9 — the day Vance first posted on X claiming local cats were being eaten by Springfield’s Haitians — most of which are in the town legally — his office called local authorities to verify the claim.
    A good start!

    A Vance staffer “asked point-blank, ‘Are the rumors true of pets being taken and eaten [true]?’” City Manager Bryan Heck told the Journal. “I told him no. There was no verifiable evidence or reports to show this was true. I told them these claims were baseless.”
    Oh...not so good.

    By the time that phone call took place, Vance’s post had already gone viral online. The senator did not take it down in response to the denial from Springfield officials. Instead, Vance’s office issued a statement late that night claiming that his office had “received a high volume of calls and emails over the past several weeks from concerned citizens in Springfield: his tweet is based on what he is hearing from them.”

    “Unlike the liberal media, JD takes his constituents’ concerns seriously,” his office added.
    Jay Dee Hamel is spreading a lie, that he knows is a lie, that's bringing domestic terror to his constituents. Intentionally.

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    Emails reveal plan by swing state election officials to disrupt the vote

    Even though voters aren't going to the polls for several weeks, there are already a slew of conservative groups organizing to sow doubt about the result in one particular battleground state if Republicans suffer a loss.

    The Guardian recently reported on a trove of emails it obtained detailing efforts by a collection of MAGA-aligned organizations aiming to undermine election results in Georgia should Vice President Kamala Harris defeat former President Donald Trump in the critically important swing state. Several far-right groups — including Tea Party Patriots and the Election Integrity Network — are working with election officials in several Georgia counties who are sympathetic to their cause in an effort dubbed the "Georgia Election Integrity Coalition."
    The emails, which were obtained via public records request from watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and shared with the Guardian, show how election deniers in positions of power throughout Georgia are hoping to disrupt efforts to certify the 2024 election if Harris prevails. One of those election deniers is David Hancock, who is a member of the Gwinnett County Board of Registrations and Elections.

    READ MORE: Election officials fear 'conspiracy pushers' may disrupt vote certification in swing states

    The effort appears to date back to January, when an unnamed website "admin" sent an email to members linking to an article by the United Tea Party of Georgia (UTPG) entitled "Georgia Democratic Party Threatens Elections Officials." That article described how an attorney with the Democratic Party of Georgia sent a letter to election officials in several counties reminding them that certifying an election wasn't discretionary and that failing to do so could result in legal action.

    What likely prompted that letter was election officials in Cobb, DeKalb and Spalding Counties refusing to certify the 2020 election in Georgia, which President Joe Biden narrowly won by less than 12,000 votes. UTPG called it "Orwellian to demand that election officials certify an election even if they have unanswered questions about the vote."

    CREW discovered that the unnamed admin who wrote that UTPG article was indeed Hancock, who the Guardian described as an "outspoken election denier." On the same day the article was published, Hancock wrote: "All right – I finished the article and posted it."

    Several of the email's recipients include election officials who tried to decertify election results in Georgia, like Republicans Michael Heekin and Julie Adams of the Fulton County Board of Elections, Debbie Fisher in Cobb County, Nancy Jester in DeKalb County and Roy McClain in Spalding County. Hancock urged them all to share the article in a February email, writing: "I think the message needs to get out, so share as you feel led."

    READ MORE: 'Ripe for abuse': GA elections chief now allowing anyone to cancel a voter's registration

    Adams, using her TeaPartyPatriots.org email address, sought to coordinate voter fraud messaging with the group in a separate email. The group has hosted election deniers at their meetings, including Cobb County Republican Party co-chair Salleigh Grubbs, who successfully got the Georgia State Board of Elections to adopt a rule making it easier for counties to refuse to certify election results. Another featured speaker was state election board member Dr. Janice Johnston, whom Trump mentioned by name during an August rally in which he praised Republican election board members as "pit bulls" who were "fighting for victory."

    The core argument of election deniers is that "widespread voter fraud" tarnishes the legitimacy of election results, requiring a delay in certification to conduct an investigation. However, as the Washington Post reported, there is no such thing as widespread voter fraud. Loyola Law School-Los Angeles professor Justin Leavitt found that out of more than one billion ballots cast between 2000 and 2014, there were just 31 instances of provable voter fraud. And in several Republican-controlled states including Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Texas and Virginia, voter fraud investigations dating back to the 2020 election only yielded 47 convictions.

    According to the Guardian, Democrats have pointed to court cases in Georgia dating back to the 19th century showing that county election boards' certification duties are "ministerial," and not discretionary. Even Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger — a Republican — reportedly instructed a member of his office to remind county election officials that refusing to certify election results could subject them to legal proceedings.
    Clearly these guys didn't read project 2025 memo since it told them to not use emails when destroying democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    From Barron's.

    DJT Stock Falls. Economists Say Trump Is Likely to Lose the Election.

    "Whoa, that's an odd double-header."

    It's a cause-and-effect thing. Truth Social is worthless without Trump involved. If he loses the election, he owns a platform where all he does is complain. Nobody will advertise on that.
    Even if he wins, the major companies still won't advertise on Truth Social. The platform is too controversial, and the content too narrowly focused and highly polarizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    From Barron's.

    DJT Stock Falls. Economists Say Trump Is Likely to Lose the Election.

    "Whoa, that's an odd double-header."

    It's a cause-and-effect thing. Truth Social is worthless without Trump involved. If he loses the election, he owns a platform where all he does is complain. Nobody will advertise on that.
    Well he is launching a new crypto coin which Trump Jr. is spamming ads for surely this will go to the moon and isn't a pump and dump.

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    https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ohio-city.html

    A neo-Nazi group headed by two ex-Marines took credit for helping spread unfounded claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, after former President Donald Trump said the residents were "eating the dogs" during a presidential debate last week.

    Christopher Pohlhaus, a neo-Nazi and former Marine, wrote on social media following the debate that the group, Blood Tribe, "pushed Spingfield into the public consciousness" after sharing a clip of the former president spreading the pet-eating story on national television.

    Armed and hidden behind masks, aside from its leaders, Blood Tribe marched under swastika flags in Springfield weeks prior to the debate in an effort to instigate anti-immigrant sentiment in the small city and demonize the Haitian population there, according to social media and videos posted by the group, which were reviewed by Military.com.
    So are Donald and Jay Dee Hamel getting any other talking points from ex-military neonazis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Aesop what you did there
    "Sour Grapes and Salt" really does describe the flavor and color of the modern GOP, doesn't it?
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    What is wrong with these weird Trump supporters who become all shocked and appalled when he attacks people? Have they been living in a coma for the last 10 years? Trump going after Taylor Swift is the least surprising thing ever. In fact it's surprising he wasn't more crude about it.
    Forum badass alert:
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    What is wrong with these weird Trump supporters who become all shocked and appalled when he attacks people? Have they been living in a coma for the last 10 years? Trump going after Taylor Swift is the least surprising thing ever. In fact it's surprising he wasn't more crude about it.
    Because they never think he'll attack or hurt them or the people they like, it's always the other people they don't like that they're happy to have him hurt and attack.

    Also yes, these people generally seem deeply ignorant, stupid, and hateful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    What is wrong with these weird Trump supporters who become all shocked and appalled when he attacks people? Have they been living in a coma for the last 10 years? Trump going after Taylor Swift is the least surprising thing ever. In fact it's surprising he wasn't more crude about it.
    Don ALMOST tweeted "Ugly woman. Never liked her. No wonder no kids. Dating a loser. I make more money, don't need to run around."

    Willing to bet there is at least one person who after the "I hate Taylor Swift" message was: "Are you out of your fucking mind taking on Swift? That money amount you say you have. She has that. And more. Yuge amounts. And you do NOT want to shit in her sherbet."

    Said person has been wish the best in their future endeavors.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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