2024 Election - Trump vs. Harris, important downballot

[Kaleredar]

Why y'all continue the act is beyond me. It's like the #WalkAway folks. They honest-to-god think that they're literally fooling anyone and are just so fucking committed to the bit in public it's wild. It's so performative like they're proving it to each other all the time.

We know you don't believe this, you support Donald Trump.

He’s not from the US, so what he thinks about Donald Trump luckily doesn’t matter.


He’s his own country’s political problem.

[Elegiac]

He’s not from the US, so what he thinks about Donald Trump luckily doesn’t matter.

He’s his own country’s political problem.

He is from Turkey, in fact. One of Erdogan’s simps.

[tikcol]

He is from Turkey, in fact. One of Erdogan’s simps.

No, I am neither Australian, Russian or Turkish. I am both an European Union citizen and part of NATO.

That should do to dissuade any prejudices.

[Belize]

No, I am neither Australian, Russian or Turkish. I am both an European Union citizen and part of NATO.

That should do to dissuade any prejudices.

... Australian?

Hmm.

[Fugus]

They aren't. Republicans are just liars and also, frequently, economically illiterate.

See: "Trickle down economics totally works!"

Interesting fact, you ever hear of a guy named "Lee Atwater"? He was a Republican strategist and the presidential adviser to both Reagan and Bush Sr as well as the Chairman for the Republican National Committee.

In 1981 he actually did an interview where he spell what their policies on "State's Rights" and "Lower Taxes" was actually about. He was actually very blunt and too the point about it.

Here is an except from it with the relevant part, I haven't heard the full thing, just this but it does plenty by itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ

Edit: His playbook is still being used today when you look at what the party is still pushing.

[fwc577]

I am not a flip flopper. The same can't be said about Kamala Harris.

Ah, so you're someone who is ignorantly stuck in their ways and would refuse change? Sounds real healthy. I would suggest a therapist.

[PhaelixWW]

Oh look, another ballot drop box was set on fire overnight.

The first one you talked about wasn't actually a ballot drop box; it was a regular blue mailbox, and was unlikely to be a case of election tampering.

The one you're talking about here was two nights ago and was already brought up:

"Police said Monday that a “suspect vehicle” has been identified in connection with incendiary devices that set fires to ballot drop boxes in Oregon and Washington state.

Surveillance images captured a Volvo stopping at a drop box in Portland, Oregon, just before security personnel nearby discovered a fire inside the box on Monday, Portland Police Bureau spokesman Mike Benner told a news conference.

That fire damaged three ballots inside, while officials say a fire at a drop box in nearby Vancouver, Washington, early Monday destroyed hundreds of ballots. The devices were attached to the outside of the boxes, police said."

So someone is going around trying to destroy ballot dropboxes and ballots.

Yeah, now it's a legitimate election news story. It's good to hear that there are fire suppression systems in each ballot box, too.

The person who did this deserves to be locked up for a decade, at least, though.

Don't worry, Chief Pedant will be along shortly to tell us it's not a big deal and we're not allowed to be angry about it.

It's sad that you think it's pedantic to resist unfounded conspiracy theories. I objected when a lie was built up around the first story. I didn't object to the second story when the facts supported the accusation.

That's how it works when you're being honest, and it's depressing that you seem to have lost interest in honesty.

I don't expect you'll read this, however, since you seem to have me on ignore for some unknown reason.

[Bwgmon]

Far from apologising for his racist rally, Trump is defending it as a 'love fest'.

Well, Trump's echelon does appear to love being racist, so I guess "love fest" works.

[DarkTZeratul]

The first one you talked about wasn't actually a ballot drop box; it was a regular blue mailbox, and was unlikely to be a case of election tampering.

They caught that guy, and you're right - he was just an arsonist who wanted to get arrested, no political motivations at all.

https://www.wtvm.com/2024/10/24/poli...ailed-ballots/

[Cthulhu 2020]

https://thepostmillennial.com/exclus...supports-trump





What's wrong with people nowadays?



This is what constant divisive rhetoric does to some people. I am appalled by the kind of derangement it creates on the most vulnerable of us.

In the democratic process, your weapon is your ballot. Use it honorably.

When conservatives did this on Twitter y'all just cried about free speech absolutism and how conservative voices were being silenced simply because they were exercising their first amendment rights.

[tehdang]

i mean almost all of the actual voting fraud has been repubs, they've been burning ballot boxes...oh and pretended the election was rigged so they tried to literally overthrow the fucking process....but yeah one democrat made threats so its all samesies....


The fucking insanity has to fucking stop at some point.

I'm sure if you have proof of Republicans "burning ballot boxes," you have turned this into the authorities.

Because only such a thing would make this comparable to a suspect that was found and arrested. If you've got nothing, and this is conjecture, then please wait until your hunches have something behind them.

Almost like there's a pattern of violent rhetoric and threats against poll watches/workers from Republicans, including elected and campaigning politicians, that's not mirrored by Democrats. As if, bear with me because I know you've heard this before, incidents don't all exist in isolation and exist in broader context. Which I know you consistently are frustrated by.

Democracy means you get to blame Republicans for violence against Republicans by Democrats.

I don't think this has any purchase. If your broader context is flipping perpetrator and victim, maybe broader context is just slang for inability to make a defense.

[Doomcookie]

I'm sure if you have proof of Republicans "burning ballot boxes," you have turned this into the authorities.

Because only such a thing would make this comparable to a suspect that was found and arrested. If you've got nothing, and this is conjecture, then please wait until your hunches have something behind them.

Democracy means you get to blame Republicans for violence against Republicans by Democrats.

I don't think this has any purchase. If your broader context is flipping perpetrator and victim, maybe broader context is just slang for inability to make a defense.

Would you care to chime in on your support for January 6th? You've been so silent.

[Edge-]

Democracy means you get to blame Republicans for violence against Republicans by Democrats.

It's a good thing that's not what I'm doing.

I don't think this has any purchase. If your broader context is flipping perpetrator and victim, maybe broader context is just slang for inability to make a defense.

Again, rather than actually engage with the topic at-hand you'd rather clutch pearls over the chosen words used. It's not that the restaurant is serving rancid meat that's your problem, is that they have the salad fork on the right hand side of the plates and not in its proper place on the outside of the left side. Because clearly the misplaced salad fork is the primary problem on this table of plates with rancid meat.

Anyways! Back on topic - https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/thi...ction-ballots/

A former Republican candidate running for an Indiana seat in the U.S. House of Representatives has been arrested and charged with stealing several election ballots during a recent voting machine test.

Larry L. Savage Jr., a candidate in the Republican 5th District primary held earlier this year, was arrested Tuesday morning by Madison County authorities and charged with destroying/misplacing a ballot and theft. He has since been released on a $500 cash bond.

The charges filed against Savage, a 51-year-old Anderson resident and precinct committeeman, stem from an incident on Oct. 3 in which two election ballots went missing at the Madison County Government Center during testing of the local voting machines.

Court documents show county officials began testing voting machines at 10 a.m. on Oct. 3, an event open to the public. Several citizens attended the tests and were allowed to run “test” ballots through the machines assigned to their county.

Despite being marked “test,” the ballots were still officially tracked and counted by the State and included real candidate names as well as differing votes. After testing, officials found one straight-Republican ballot and one write-in ballot were missing.

A review of security footage, which was subsequently being live-streamed online, showed Savage handling the two missing ballots. He can also be heard confirming with an election official that these are “absolutely, totally real ballots.”

In the video Savage can be seen looking around the room before folding up two ballots and putting them in his sweatshirt pocket.

Oh look yet another example of Republicans intentionally engaging in election/voter fraud. How shocking.

[postman1782]

https://thepostmillennial.com/exclus...supports-trump





What's wrong with people nowadays?



This is what constant divisive rhetoric does to some people. I am appalled by the kind of derangement it creates on the most vulnerable of us.

In the democratic process, your weapon is your ballot. Use it honorably.

Nothing from the Post Millennial is true. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/

Especially, anything from that Trump Taint Licker Jack Posobiec.

[tikcol]

When conservatives did this on Twitter y'all just cried about free speech absolutism and how conservative voices were being silenced simply because they were exercising their first amendment rights.

I'm sorry but did you quote the wrong person? We're talking about someone charged with election-related threats to a State Party Representative. If the previous source was not to your taste, I can give you an official one.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/phila...representative

“I will KILL YOU IF YOU DON’T ANSWER ME!”
“Your days are numbered, B****!”
“GONNA F***ING FIND YOU AND SKIN YOU ALIVE AND USE YOUR SKIN FOR F***ING TOILET PAPER, YOU F***ING KKK**T!”

Is this the kind of language you want to normalize and play whataboutism about?

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Nothing from the Post Millennial is true. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/

Especially, anything from that Trump Taint Licker Jack Posobiec.

We already established that this particular article written by Jack Posobiec is in fact legitimate

https://www.inquirer.com/news/john-c...-20241021.html

[Shadowferal]

[DarkTZeratul]

"Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge."

[tikcol]

As a Trump supporter, this depiction is funny. But I can also assure you, that I myself prefer the original statue.

[gondrin]

Guy’s a roast comic, it’s what he does. If he’d said New Jersey instead of Puerto Rico everyone would have laughed and moved on. Kind of agree with Stewart’s take here although being a comic himself it’d be awkward for him to knock the routine. 4 min 37 to jump to the relevant bit.



I’d figure what the rest of the speakers had to say would be the objectionable part but once again we glom onto the comic.

Thing about Roasts is that the people being roasted also tend to have agreed to be part of that roast. They understood that stereotypes of their race, their nationality and the like may be made fun of to an exaggerated effect. I can probably safely bet a good $10k that the people of PR didn't actually agree to be part of that roast. That is why obviously racist humor, at a roast like those back in the 60s and 70s with Dean Martin or the more current ones, was OK because the target of that roast agreed to be part of it. It is still racist or bigoted humor however it is directed towards the person, not some random people out somewhere else.

That is why there is outrage there and not during an official roast.

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As a Trump supporter, this depiction is funny. But I can also assure you, that I myself prefer the original statue.

Then you support everything that the Statue goes against. The statue literally is in support of complete open borders. Its message is in support of taking in the downtrodden or otherwise undesirables from other countries to try and get a better life here. It is the complete antithesis of everything Trump talks about.

So I am personally calling bullshit to this.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I'm sorry but did you quote the wrong person? We're talking about someone charged with election-related threats to a State Party Representative. If the previous source was not to your taste, I can give you an official one.

Yeah, conservatives were being locked up and banned off of twitter and then they started whining about it saying "WE'RE BEING BANNED FOR EXERCISING OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT" or "WE'RE BEING LOCKED UP FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE" and then when you do even a little bit of digging it's them making massively violent threats to murder and rape people. Conservative speech, especially on modern twitter, is some of the most hateful and violent rhetoric I've ever seen. Death threats, rape threats, profanity, literally everywhere there's a liberal. Y'all embraced this shit and then whined when you got punished for it.

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Anyway, conservative October surprises have sucked bigly so far.

Now they seem to believe that 26 year-old-Walz dating the daughter of a Chinese official is big news.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er_dailymailus