2024 Election - Trump vs. Harris, important downballot

[Poopymonster]

... Australian?

Hmm.

Given his views and rhetoric, Austrian would have been more historically accurate guess.

[Belize]

Given his views and rhetoric, Austrian would have been more historically accurate guess.

Which is the reason for the Hmm.
They don't seem to teach geography wherever he's from, which is especially weird since he claims to be in the EU. You'd think someone from mainland Europe would know the difference between Austria and Australia.

[Valdhammer]

The lengths that MAGA is willing to go to help their leader win is truly frightening.

When Kamala wins next week, all hell is going to break loose.

As long as she wins, I will not be worried about any “hell” MAGA are capable of unleashing. The thing about your movement only appealing to morons is that it becomes very difficult to actually achieve anything with those people. She just has to win next week. Please swing states people, just go vote.

[Warning]

Excellent speech by Kamala Harris and very well delivered. Her campaign has been rock solid. I hope everyone turns up and makes her the next President.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Biden calling all Trump supporters "Garbage" and all of the Trumpers are clutching their pearls about it like their guy didn't literally just call all of Puerto Rico garbage last night.

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Doesn't feel new to me...

It was happening on these very forums during the Obama years. The good ole days when conservatives would drop slurs, tell people to kill themselves, call for violence against minorities, make "edgy" jokes about sexual assault, then when they'd catch a ban from Endus or one of the other mods they'd cry about being persecuted for their beliefs. They either have zero self awareness or believe they should get a pass for literally anything they do "because they have rights".

[PhaelixWW]

"Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge."

Sounds familiar...

"Give me your tired willfully ignorant, your poor wealthy,
Your huddled masses alpha whites yearning to breathe free oppress anything other,
The wretched refuse rabidly fascist of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost self-entitled wannabe dictators to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[tehdang]

It's a good thing that's not what I'm doing.

Again, rather than actually engage with the topic at-hand you'd rather clutch pearls over the chosen words used.

I'm just trying to understand your response. The "pattern of violent rhetoric and threats against poll watches/workers from Republicans" and it's applicability to a news story on a Democrat threatening violence against a Republican recruiter.

What violence against Republicans by Democrats?

Please respond on-topic to what I posted: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...4#post54579854
I'm sure you want whatabout assassination attempts against Trump when that's relevant. I'm glad this wasn't a news story about another assassination attempt.

[gondrin]

So, Trump already has his official scapegoat if he loses.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...51eb9760&ei=14

Trump has already selected a scapegoat if the election doesn’t go his way

It appears that Donald Trump is already lining up a scapegoat if he loses the election - chair of the Republican National Committee Michael Whatley.

Trump has given Whatley the mission of building the Republicans’ sizable “election integrity” group. The ex-commander-in-chief has been using his false claims about election fraud to argue that he didn’t lose the 2020 election and has been saying during the 2024 campaign that Vice President Kamala Harris can only win by cheating.

The Republicans claim that they have accumulated as many as 200,000 poll watchers and poll workers. The program is set to be used to gather evidence of voter fraud amid GOP lawsuits taking aim at rules governing voting eligibility and ballot processing procedures, Axios notes.

The program has taken on a larger role within the party than actual voter outreach.

Trump called out Whatley during a rally in North Carolina, where Whatley has been the state GOP chair, last month, saying, “We’re counting on this guy ... you better win or you’re never going to be able to come back here. He doesn’t win, he won’t be at RNC and he will no longer be in North Carolina. He’ll be looking for a job.”

In private, Trump has said that the only reason he may lose is if Whatley fails in upholding “election integrity,” according to Axios.

Under Whatley’s leadership, the RNC has sent Trump supporters to state offices on the county and secretary of state levels running paid poll workers programs, and the chair has hired attorneys, including Christina Bobb, who has spread false claims about the 2020 election.

Trump aides Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita told Axios that Whatley has done a “phenomenal job.”

“President Trump and his team have the utmost confidence in Chairman Whatley and everything the RNC has done to win this election,” they added.

A colleague who warned Whatley before he became GOP chair that he would be the target of Trump’s fury if the former president loses the election told Axios that Whatley is well aware of his predicament.

“‘He’s like, ‘I know that if we lose, I’m gonna get the blame,’” the colleague told the outlet.

Trump has instructed the RNC to focus on “election integrity” while he focuses on getting Republican voters to turn up to vote.

In August, Trump said in Asheboro, North Carolina that “Our primary focus is not to get out to vote,” but instead to “make sure” that Democrats “don’t cheat, because we have all the votes you need.”

There’s no evidence of widespread election fraud and officials called the 2020 election the “most secure in American history.”

[Breccia]

I'm just trying to understand your response.

Not even you believe this.

On topic: Dixie was, in fact, played at the Trump rally on purpose.

Real estate investor Steve Witkoff walked out to an Elvis Presley recording of "An American Trilogy" — a compilation of three folk songs that begins with "Dixie." Only the Dixie portion of the recording played during both his entrance and exit.

"How good of a song is that?" Witkoff, who is from New York City, asked at the top of his speech.

"Wait, that wasn't Trump."

That music was on the playlist and hit on purpose. Yes, it was.

[Edge-]

Not even you believe this.

On topic: Dixie was, in fact, played at the Trump rally on purpose.

Never forget the immortal words of the brilliant tactician, General Robert E. Lee, "Never fight uphill, me boys. Never fight uphill."

[AntiFascistVoter]

Look who decided to be Red Skull for Halloween!
No.... not Jordan Peterson.



Its seriously red.

[Paranoid Android]

This is from the Las Vegas Sphere.

I will say campaign spending is effin crazy. Money spent still on antiquated tv ads and flyers, etc., I wonder if this works or both parties just set in their ways. I quickly skimmed some articles saying there is no effect, idk. I'm cynic here and say they are just lazy and keep doing the same thing that was done 20, 30 or 50 years ago.

[PhaelixWW]

I will say campaign spending is effin crazy. Money spent still on antiquated tv ads and flyers, etc., I wonder if this works or both parties just set in their ways. I quickly skimmed some articles saying there is no effect, idk. I'm cynic here and say they are just lazy and keep doing the same thing that was done 20, 30 or 50 years ago.

What else should the campaigns spend money on? The potential uses are limited, of course.

[Kaleredar]

What else should the campaigns spend money on? The potential uses are limited, of course.

I have noticed that in Florida spending on the Trump/Harris campaigns seems to be very... well, limited, as far as I can anecdotally see. After the Biden/Trump debate I saw Trump billboards go up, but they seem to have largely vanished. Meanwhile, I've received many flyers for the various candidates running downballot, but I'm fairly certain I've received none for Trump or Harris themselves.

[PhaelixWW]

I have noticed that in Florida spending on the Trump/Harris campaigns seems to be very... well, limited, as far as I can anecdotally see. After the Biden/Trump debate I saw Trump billboards go up, but they seem to have largely vanished. Meanwhile, I've received many flyers for the various candidates running downballot, but I'm fairly certain I've received none for Trump or Harris themselves.

I would imagine our experiences will necessarily differ from those of people in swing states, of course, at least for Harris/Trump ads.

[Kaleredar]

I would imagine our experiences will necessarily differ from those of people in swing states, of course, at least for Harris/Trump ads.

I only bring it up because I visited a friend in North Carolina recently and, while I didn't see his mail specifically, there were those little yard signs all over the place for both Harris and Trump. Not just in yards, but along medians, highway roadsides, etc.

Perhaps after 2016, 2020, and the Desantis of it all both parties no longer consider Florida a swing state.

[Paranoid Android]

What else should the campaigns spend money on? The potential uses are limited, of course.

I would spend more money on canvassing. In person, outreach programs might be better?

I just think its lazy on mass advertising, which again is ancient mailers and tv ads. Then my comment is both campaigns are $1 billion plus and they spend money like at the strip club. TV stations and what not must love this shit. I commented before but battleground state markets probably make enough money this one year than a couple years combined.

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I only bring it up because I visited a friend in North Carolina recently and, while I didn't see his mail specifically, there were those little yard signs all over the place for both Harris and Trump. Not just in yards, but along medians, highway roadsides, etc.

Perhaps after 2016, 2020, and the Desantis of it all both parties no longer consider Florida a swing state.

Trump is effective probably cause of billionaires with "eff you money" who keep up Spanish talk shows and well just the right wing media in general and now basically every Bro podcast is with him.

Note: If I must explain for commentors coming across this. I'm stating both sides so this is not slamming Kamala. Calm down peeps.

[gondrin]

This is from the Las Vegas Sphere.

I will say campaign spending is effin crazy. Money spent still on antiquated tv ads and flyers, etc., I wonder if this works or both parties just set in their ways. I quickly skimmed some articles saying there is no effect, idk. I'm cynic here and say they are just lazy and keep doing the same thing that was done 20, 30 or 50 years ago.

As far as flyers go, probably in the start it is fine however people eventually sour on it because of the volume that come in. And when it comes to actual political spending, I see far more adverts for local races like city/state and House/Senate races. I rarely see very much of adverts for Harris/Trump that actually come from Harris/Trump.

[PhaelixWW]

Then my comment is both campaigns are $1 billion plus and they spend money like at the strip club. TV stations and what not must love this shit. I commented before but battleground state markets probably make enough money this one year than a couple years combined.

Yet another thing that getting rid of the Electoral College would help.

Or maybe those dollars would just shift to high population areas instead. Who knows, but it would still be more proportional than now, at least.

[Kathranis]

I'm just trying to understand your response. The "pattern of violent rhetoric and threats against poll watches/workers from Republicans" and it's applicability to a news story on a Democrat threatening violence against a Republican recruiter.

Why does the linked article have no sources? Why was it co-written by fucking Jack Posobiec, a known white supremacist and conspiracy theorist with a history of spreading disinformation and Russian propaganda?

Like, seriously, you want me to respond to that fucking trash? From the guy who hyped up Pizzagate? Give me a fucking break.